People born after 2000 have never seen the cosmic microwave background on their TV set.

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• BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I was born in the 90s, my brothers were born in the early 2000s. We had a CRT into the early 2010s . Maybe people who weren’t poor haven’t seen real TV static but even then I doubt it. Hell, remember those god awful “flat screen” CRTs? My old station still had one of those that we used to watch TV on in 2018-19. It’s probably still there lol

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  • Slippery_Snake874@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yep, my family had a CRT that we used until sometime around 2015.

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  • theangryseal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I actually liked the flat screen crts. I have a 1080p flatscreen crt and I love it. Can’t use it though because I’m scared my kids will get crushed by it.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      When I was growing up the cat used to interact with the TV. It was on the floor for a while so it was fun.

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• RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have seen this on a much newer TV last year. It didnt just disappear

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• Amanduh@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Movies depicting this haven’t vanished from existence though

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  • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The trope of video/audio breaking down into static is an easy shorthand that is unlikely to be forgotten, probably even well after all the devices capable of doing so have long since been buried in the landfill.

    It’s especially hilarious in media depicting the far-flung future, where apparently all technologically advanced space men and their communications devices – not to mention high powered central supercomputers and so on and so forth – apparently still work over NTSC television signals. Even by the early 1980’s it should have been entirely predictable that in “the future” anything like that would be digital, considering we already had widespread digital audio media (CD’s), and digital video was already making inroads into the computing industry.

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• thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  or a new smaller tv sitting on top of the old, wood frame tv as a stand now

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• alphapuggle@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I had a CRT as our family’s main TV until 2017

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A high end CRT is a solid choice and was hard to replicate until recently.

    Part of me wishes they still made them.

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• Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I bought a plasma in 2009 that would show static if I turned it to cable channels without cable plugged in. Plasmas were susceptible to burn in and since I would game a lot I could see health bars etc start to burn in after a while. Whenever that would happen I would turn it to the static screen - making each pixel flip from one end of the spectrum to the other rapidly like that would actually help remove the burn in.

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• Lemjukes@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have an old mini tv(the kind that took C cell batteries) that can still pickup the good ol CMB!

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• bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  CRTs were fairly common until the early-mid 10s

  I’d say born after 2008ish aren’t likely to be familiar with them, except seeing the odd one in their grandparents bedroom

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• RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  #CHSHSHSHSHSHSHSHSHSHSH

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hair stand up

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• ODuffer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You can still hear it on the radio. Although most of the noise floor is probably man made.

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• Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  On a CRT? Sure, probably a lot haven’t seen it. On a modern TV? Still possible for some - mine does this if I hit the channel button rather than volume accidentally.

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  • leftytighty@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Depending on the TV it’s likely simulated noise at this point

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    • BatmanAoD@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That noise is horrible; why would someone simulate it rather than just show a blue screen?

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• JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Do you think CRTs just magically disappeared after the turn of the millennium?

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  • Hobbes@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No, I just couldn’t remember exactly when. And as another commenter pointed out, what I should have said was analog TV’s.

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  • i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They lied to us. The real Y2K was the CRT rapture.

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think they’re more likely to have been scrapped than other old tech.

      They’re bulky, and mine was too heavy to get out in the attic. I still have my ZX Spectrum and Amiga, but the CRT needed for lightgun games is long gone.

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  • criitz@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It actually was a pretty rapid switch where all the CRTs disappeared

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  • dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well to be fair at some point most/all CRTs showed a blue screen instead of static. So it’s possible someone born in 2000 never saw the snowy display.

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    • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As someone born in 2000, I’ve personally seen it and I think most people around me did. Maybe someone didn’t, though.

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  • billwashere@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Don’t you still see this when using an OTA ATSC tuner on a newer LCD display? I thought this was a function of the signal generation and not the display technologies.

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• Dr_Box@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My family had several tvs that did this until around 2013

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• Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My mother had one of these. I got to use it as a hand-me-down as a teenager because my mother was abusive AF.

  For clarity, the subject of the TV wasn’t the abusive part. Her rationale of “I didn’t have one when I was a kid so you don’t get to have one while you’re a kid” was. It didn’t apply just to the TV.

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  • y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Same lol. Only 3 channels until I was 12 or so and no internet in the house until I was 15 or 16.

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• konalt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  yeah i have

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• SlimeKnight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think they call it “analog horror noise” now, along with vhs cassettes.

  …

  Feel the passage of time XD

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• apemint@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well, not really. The cosmic microwave background radiation was a tiny fraction of that noise. What everyone saw was mostly thermal noise generated by the amplifier circuit inside the TV.

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• Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  By the way, the picture illustrating the post isn’t actually displaying the real thing - the noise in it is too squarish and has no grey tones.

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  • Wolf314159@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    TV static in recent movies and shows that are set in the past almost always instantly pull me out of the narrative because no one seems to be able to get it right and some are just stunningly bad. It’s usually very subtle, so much so that I’m not sure I could even describe what’s wrong. Makes me feel old to notice it.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think the problem is because CRT displays didn’t have pixels so the uniform noise which is static was not only uniformely spread in distribution and intensity (i.e. greyscale level) but also had “dots” of all sizes.

      Also another possible thing that’s off is the speed at which the noise changes: was it the 25fps refresh rate of a CRT monitor, related to that rate but not necessarily at that rate or did the noise itself had more persistent and less persistent parts?

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• ulterno@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Except for that most of it was not.
  A lot of the noise on the screen (and speaker) was affected by radiation from nearby stuff.

  I’d think that nowadays, it would be even more so, with way more WiFi and mobile phone signals everywhere. Now sure, different frequencies mean they would affect less, but the cumulative effect would still be more than the CMBR.

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• I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You mean the attack of the ants?

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• clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel. - William Gibson, Neuromancer

  One of the most beautiful opening lines to a novel.

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  • niktemadur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The opposite of a Bullwer-Lytton!

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  • dwindling7373@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    One of the most beautiful opening lines to a novel.

    Abundantly clearly not.

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    • superkret@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents—except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness."

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you remember that it was written in 1984, the color is obviously black and white static. If you don’t think about the year, you might be lead to believe it is blue.

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    • gofsckyourself@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Literally 1984

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No one in the last 25 years has ever seen it.

  People didn’t just mass-destroy CRTs in 1999…

  I bought an LCD TV in 2006 (a Sony Bravia that is still going strong) and that was earlier than most people I know switched

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• user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Our cable provider (my parents like cable TV) had analog channels even like 2 years ago, but they started encrypting everything which required purging the analog selection.

  This sucks. At worst analog would be grainy, digital just keeps cutting out in worse conditions.
  I wish there was also still analog OTA TV for this reason. Much easier to pick up usable signal.

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• fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sixth and Seventh Generation video game consoles were still using scart/composite/component outputs for CRT up until their discontinuation in 2017 so I’m pretty sure a lot of kids would have had a CRT to game on as well was watch TV in their rooms.

  Remember, kids typically get the hand me downs when the adults get new shiny.

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• 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No one in the last 25 years has ever seen it.

  I mean you can still find a CRT today and turn it on if you like, they’re less common for sure, but they’re still around if you’re looking for one

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  • DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Kids born after 2000 aren’t looking for one

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    • 000999@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      CRTs are popular with people who have retro games consoles.

      They’re surprisingly difficult to acquire though. Big, heavy and either very expensive or free.

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    • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Dude I’d kill for the opportunity to get my hands on a half-decent CRT

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    • urheber@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      i know i am.

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    • TheWeirdestCunt@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’d be surprised, some people born in the 2000s want them for the retro factor now

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    • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well that’s a lie, I know an early 20 year old who’s into retro games and has definitely been to an arcade with CRTs in the past year or so

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• lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  they have to watch HBO shows to compensate

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  • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Surely you mean the much worse “Max”.

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    • Juvyn00b@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Logo still shows HBO for that intro though

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• RedIce25@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  CRTs was in use well into the 2000s

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  • abfarid@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Technically, it’s not about the display technology, but instead about the signal/tuner. More specifically if it’s analog or digital. Some modern TVs still have analog or hybrid tuners for backwards compatibility and regions that still use analog, so they can display static. For instance, in Ukraine we finished the switch to digital TV only a couple of years ago. If your TV had no digital tuner (as was the case for many) you had to buy a DAC box. Retirees/pensioners got them for free, sponsored by the government.

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  • davidgro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Even before the 2000s they started showing a blue screen instead of static.

    That wasn’t just a digital or flat panel thing.

    But of course old sets were around for a long time.

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What are they hiding from us?!

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    • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My memory of the exacts here are fuzzy, but I think this depended on whether or not your TV picked up digital signal, analog, or both. I remember around that time we had a TV that would pick up static on some channels and have a blue input screen on others.

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  • popekingjoe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah I was still using a CRT as recently as 2012. I think OP means analogue TVs.

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    • Hobbes@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah you’re right.

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  • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, my youngest sibling has definitely seen CRTs. My niblings probably haven’t, though.

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I thought they were teaching it in all the schools? /s

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• SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Born 2000, yes i have. So has my younger brother so thats ok

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