I think the vines in the second photo are kudzu tho
English Ivy
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TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Death_Equity@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Kudzu is some wild stuff, one vine tendril grows a foot a day and it kills entire forests.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Definitely. OP is clueless.
Voyajer@lemmy.world 1 day ago
English Ivy happily spreads too and will also smother natives.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 17 hours ago
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TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
English ivy may grow better in Kentucky soil than Kent chaulk, but I’m not familiar with that in the way I am kudzu.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 day ago
oxideseven@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
I’ll leave this here, as I’m particularly bothered by the weird megamyth of kudzu in the US, as is evidenced but the other comments.
English ivy is actually a generally bigger threat but it never gets any real attention.
I will concede that the image above is kudzu tho.
j4k3@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Kudzu was the last bioweapons unit of the Union army in the US civil war. It never surrendered, it is still fighting the American South, and winning the guerilla war.
boogetyboo@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Playing whack a mole with my neighbours ivy. Keeps popping up on my side of the fence. Fuck whoever brought it to Australia.
MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
I’m playing whack a mole with my own ivy. Fuck the prior house owners for letting it get out of hand. I got all of it from the trees and the side of the house but it always grows back. I’m still finding sprouts from thick woody vines that have been there forever apparently. I tried removing it from the fence but realized very quickly that it’s the only thing holding it together. 😒
And fuck the English for bringing it over (we both know it was them, even their plants are colonizers).
ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 10 hours ago
Some of those are absurdly strong. I have wild grapes in my yard that go ahold of an old clothesline with 6 lines across it. Now I didn’t use said line so figured just let it be to feed the birds and such. Turns out it got thick enough that one winter when a particularly heavy snow came through the weight of the snow on the vine mat was enough to bend in the poles that are a good 3 inches thick.
sevan@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Same. I have a fence that’s barely still standing now that I removed the ivy. I’ve been pulling it and spraying it for several years now. I know I’ll never win, but I’m doing my best to keep it in check. The most painful part is when I go to garden centers and see it for sale. It makes me want to cry.
MeatPilot@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Kudzu CONSUME
QuantumStorm@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What I don’t get is why we don’t eat kudzu.
pyrflie@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Where digestion is concerned it’s beans on steroids. It’s pretty rough on methane emissions, smell, and laundry.
Egg_Egg@lemm.ee 17 hours ago
It’s difficult to eat your way through an invasive species. Himalayan Balsam is also edible but it’s thriving in the UK.
In fact edibility is often the reason these things are so invasive, it’s why American Signal crayfish are over in the UK.
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
IIRC a lot of it has at some point been sprayed with super toxic herbicide to try and kill it off.
Don’t quote me on that though I’m just quoting a Wendigoon video from memory
Rubisco@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Because Crake is saving it for some special project at Rejoov.
QuantumStorm@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I hate (and am terrified) that I understood this reference. That series is horrifying.
casmael@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Nah it’s pretty intent on covering the whole of England too tbh. Good for the bees in September tho ☺️
Egg_Egg@lemm.ee 17 hours ago
Near rivers it has to contend with Himalayan Balsam, and the bees love that stuff too.
casmael@lemm.ee 17 hours ago
Yeah I quite like the ol’ Himalayan balsam to be honest - very popular with the bumble bees. Gets a bad rap in the uk because it’s supposedly ‘invasive’, but I take rather a dim view of that kind of talk to be sure.
Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 1 day ago
2nd one looks like kudzu
flora_explora@beehaw.org 18 hours ago
Apart from what others commented on these being two entirely different species, there might be other factors at play as well.
Lianas and vines are pretty common and very diverse, especially in tropical forests. They are usually found as part of the upper canopy and if there is a tree fall, they manage to fill this gap pretty quickly. The trees grow more slowly, but will manage to establish themselves eventually, filling up that gap. But if you cut down an entire forest, trees have a much harder time to establish themselves because the whole ground is just covered in these fast growing lianas or vines. There are studies that look at exactly that, how lianas inhibit forest regrowth.
So, how overgrown with lianas or vines a certain habitat is, is very much dependent on the disturbance of this habitat.
YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Kudzu is Chinese arrowroot tho?
TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 1 day ago
Is the climate that different?
pisstoria@hexbear.net 1 day ago
It doesn’t have the same pests and diseases as in Europe to keep it in check.
ace_garp@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Too big to fail
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RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
Oddly satisfying
cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 19 hours ago
It’s like wallpaper, but peelable.