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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think the vines in the second photo are kudzu tho

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    • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Kudzu is some wild stuff, one vine tendril grows a foot a day and it kills entire forests.

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      • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Maybe we could start rolling it up into balls and burying it for carbon sequestering. I mean it’s just an incredible nuisance otherwise.

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    • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Definitely. OP is clueless.

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      • Voyajer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        English Ivy happily spreads too and will also smother natives.

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        thatspartofthejoke.jpg

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      • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        English ivy may grow better in Kentucky soil than Kent chaulk, but I’m not familiar with that in the way I am kudzu.

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    • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh in that case Kakugo shiro

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  • ace_garp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Too big to fail

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    • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oddly satisfying

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      • cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s like wallpaper, but peelable.

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    • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mrs. Doubtfire voice “Hellooo!”

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  • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Kudzu was the last bioweapons unit of the Union army in the US civil war. It never surrendered, it is still fighting the American South, and winning the guerilla war.

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wish it luck on the south.

      -Californian

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    • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Reminds me of tumbleweeds, which may as well be a Soviet bioweapon.

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  • oxideseven@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll leave this here, as I’m particularly bothered by the weird megamyth of kudzu in the US, as is evidenced but the other comments.

    English ivy is actually a generally bigger threat but it never gets any real attention.

    I will concede that the image above is kudzu tho.

    smithsonianmag.com/…/true-story-kudzu-vine-ate-so…

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  • boogetyboo@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Playing whack a mole with my neighbours ivy. Keeps popping up on my side of the fence. Fuck whoever brought it to Australia.

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    • MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m playing whack a mole with my own ivy. Fuck the prior house owners for letting it get out of hand. I got all of it from the trees and the side of the house but it always grows back. I’m still finding sprouts from thick woody vines that have been there forever apparently. I tried removing it from the fence but realized very quickly that it’s the only thing holding it together. 😒

      And fuck the English for bringing it over (we both know it was them, even their plants are colonizers).

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      • sevan@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Same. I have a fence that’s barely still standing now that I removed the ivy. I’ve been pulling it and spraying it for several years now. I know I’ll never win, but I’m doing my best to keep it in check. The most painful part is when I go to garden centers and see it for sale. It makes me want to cry.

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      • ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Some of those are absurdly strong. I have wild grapes in my yard that go ahold of an old clothesline with 6 lines across it. Now I didn’t use said line so figured just let it be to feed the birds and such. Turns out it got thick enough that one winter when a particularly heavy snow came through the weight of the snow on the vine mat was enough to bend in the poles that are a good 3 inches thick.

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  • QuantumStorm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What I don’t get is why we don’t eat kudzu.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu

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    • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      IIRC a lot of it has at some point been sprayed with super toxic herbicide to try and kill it off.

      Don’t quote me on that though I’m just quoting a Wendigoon video from memory

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    • Egg_Egg@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s difficult to eat your way through an invasive species. Himalayan Balsam is also edible but it’s thriving in the UK.

      In fact edibility is often the reason these things are so invasive, it’s why American Signal crayfish are over in the UK.

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      • _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Texas: Hold my beer.

        www.chron.com/…/lionfish-texas-gulf-19717247.php

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    • Rubisco@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because Crake is saving it for some special project at Rejoov.

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      • QuantumStorm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I hate (and am terrified) that I understood this reference. That series is horrifying.

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  • MeatPilot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Kudzu CONSUME

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  • casmael@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nah it’s pretty intent on covering the whole of England too tbh. Good for the bees in September tho ☺️

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    • Egg_Egg@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Near rivers it has to contend with Himalayan Balsam, and the bees love that stuff too.

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      • casmael@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah I quite like the ol’ Himalayan balsam to be honest - very popular with the bumble bees. Gets a bad rap in the uk because it’s supposedly ‘invasive’, but I take rather a dim view of that kind of talk to be sure.

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  • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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    • propter_hog@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Was thinking the same thing; I’ve never seen English ivy take over an area like this

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  • YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Kudzu is Chinese arrowroot tho?

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  • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Apart from what others commented on these being two entirely different species, there might be other factors at play as well.

    Lianas and vines are pretty common and very diverse, especially in tropical forests. They are usually found as part of the upper canopy and if there is a tree fall, they manage to fill this gap pretty quickly. The trees grow more slowly, but will manage to establish themselves eventually, filling up that gap. But if you cut down an entire forest, trees have a much harder time to establish themselves because the whole ground is just covered in these fast growing lianas or vines. There are studies that look at exactly that, how lianas inhibit forest regrowth.

    So, how overgrown with lianas or vines a certain habitat is, is very much dependent on the disturbance of this habitat.

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  • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Verbascum thapsus in Europe:

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    • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Verbascum thapsus in Hawaii:

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  • TankieTanuki@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is the climate that different?

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    • pisstoria@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It doesn’t have the same pests and diseases as in Europe to keep it in check.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Export them too?

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  • Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Maybe it’s just me, but the second one in my brain gets voiced by LazerPig to the backing of Rule Britannia

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