Submitted 6 months ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to globalnews@lemmy.zip
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/03/gas-stoves-nitrogen-dioxide-pollution
Science Advances report also finds people of color and low-income residents in US disproportionately affected
Archived version: archive.ph/QrYK1
THEY ARE COMING AFTER YOUR LEAD PIPES AND KITCHEN WARE. THE EVIL LIBERALS ARE TAKING EVERYTHING THAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE!!!
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EVERYTHING THAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE
Lead poisoning. That checks out.
My family has been smoking cigarettes using gas stoves for generations
If smoking age is raised gas stoves aren’t sold anymore, Biden will come take it from my home!
My father’s father lived a happy life with cancer from smoking cooking daily on an unventilated gas stove, and died happily at 53. I never met him.
Look around. Point to me the people walking around who are dead from smoking cooking daily over an unventilated gas stove.
Nitrogen dioxide is a made up liberal democratic fake new word. Sounds like something a socialist marxist communists college professor would brain wash into students.
I’ve been using a stove forever. I’ve never seen this so called nitrogen dioxide. Smell that steam (cough cough). Don’t look at the marks on the ceiling. It’s a fine dust that sticks to everything. Can you open the window wide? I’ve been getting the strangest headaches when cooking lately.
Yeah the liberals want you to eat the fake meat
Before this info about how unhealthy gas stoves are came out, I switched to an induction range. I really liked it then and still do now. Highly recommended.
It would be nice if they were more widely available. I went out looking at stoves recently and, aside from the type which gets built into your countertop and doesn't include an oven, I was only able to find two induction ranges at all. Not exactly a lot of options.
Only 2! What country are you in (if you don't mind saying).
I live in a rural area. Electricity goes out for like a week pretty consistently every year.
I’ve got a propane generator, but running a stove off of it rather than just using the propane to run the stove seems silly. If power goes out for too long, I’ll turn the generator off, be without electricity, but still be able to cook.
Cool but this is more for when there’s an alternative. You have to take that risk, whatever, but if you don’t, maybe it’s time to reconsider.
You can use a camp stove for 1 week per year. That’s 2% of the annual pollution in your lungs from cooking on it year round.
Why not just get a propane grill and cook outside if the power goes out?
Because the thing that knocks out the power is freezing rain / snow mixes. When that’s happening I conclusively prefer being inside.
And replacing my current setup with a similarly function primarily-electric setup would be expensive even ignoring my preference for being partially off-grid. Right now I don’t have 220V to my kitchen at all. Decent induction stoves aren’t cheap, especially with space constraints. My cookware is all appropriate for an open flame (e.g. cast iron, enameled cast iron) and while it may work with an induction setup it wouldn’t be optimal there.
Why does the power go out?
My great great grandfather tested an electric stove in 1927. It was horrible. He wrote using a fountain pen in his journal using cursive that I should never buy one.
My house came with a gas stove. I can replace it but obviously it will cost a lot. I also know it’s usually good to not throw a working appliance out even if it’s not as efficient. I’m just wondering with everything on the table, should I throw out my gas stove? It’s really hard for me to weigh the pros and cons because it’s not clear how bad the cons are. Its obviously bad to use a gas stove but just how bad is it?
If you have young children, there’s a higher chance they’ll develop asthma. For that reason, I’m planning on trying to move to electric over the next couple of years.
We don’t have kids (yet) which is why it’s harder for us to weigh the pros and cons.
Getting the wiring for my stove cost more than the stove. Electricians are expensive!
I’m not a gas stove purist but I just wanted to put forth a point which I don’t see raised here- my cultural food is quite bit reliant on an open flame for things such as daily bread and the occasional vegetable or meat roasting. I have used an electric stove for it in the past but the results are nowhere close.
My entire country has only ever cooked on gas stoves as far as I know so I would love for this study to also be conducted in my country because I don’t know where the adverse effects of gas stoves would have been manifesting in the people around me since I see most people here live full lives.
Says all of this . Doesn’t mention their country . leaves .
Ha ha. All these people think:
someguy3@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I really don’t get this love of gas stoves. You’d think electric stoves killed their parents.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s because so many electric stoves fucking suck. A cheap gas stove is infinitely better to cook on than a cheap coil electric stove.
While people will talk about electric stoves and reference newer glass top ranges, and induction cooktop that heat the pan directly, that’s not what 90% of people have. They have the shitty coil burners from the cheap piece of shit model the apartment complex installed.
The price difference to get to a good electric means many apartment complexes and landlords won’t buy them, or it’s just cost prohibitive for current homeowners with the current economy when the current stove unexpectedly breaks.
AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
I’ve also found gas is better for frying or using a wok
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
It’s Time To Break Up With Our Gas Stoves [Climate Town] | www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2aZUav-54
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Okay, other than the could taking longer to heat up and a bit of a struggle to clean. What’s the issue with them?
Of course something cheaper isn’t going to be as good, so what it takes a few extra minutes to warm up.
onion@feddit.de 6 months ago
Yes but it’s not 1920
Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 6 months ago
If that’s the case, a cheapo portable induction cooktop is good enough actually.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Honestly disagree. When I think of a stove I think of my landlord special electric and it’s fine. I really don’t get why people hate them. And yes I’ve used gas. And glass. Never induction though.
someguy3@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
See this right here. It’s easy. It really is.
Nougat@fedia.io 6 months ago
There's a whole lot of people for whom "electric stove" means "giant metal coil that heats up in an uncontrollable way and contacts my cookware unevenly."
When my gas stove fails, I will almost certainly replace it with an electric induction stove. I have never used one, but my understanding is that they are just as easy to cook with as a gas stove.
However, old style electric stoves are still about half the price of induction stoves, and gas stoves are even cheaper. I can't fault someone for having to replace their range with something they can just barely afford instead of with something they can't afford at all.
Skua@kbin.social 6 months ago
Having used all three types a fair bit, holy shit yes a good induction hob is leagues above the old electric coil ones
someguy3@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
The it is. Lol very controllable. The only way it doesn’t contact properly is if you have warped pots. You also missed one of the electric stoves.
Test_Tickles@lemmynsfw.com 6 months ago
Induction is not perfect. We bought an induction burner that we use in conjunction with our gas stove and ideally I want a range that is half induction, half sealed electric, and has one long gas burner that has grill and griddle options. Induction is much faster and can even be set to hit a specific temperature, but it also power cycles just like standard electric. So, if we need to maintain a constant temp for something like simmering, we’ll start on induction and then move to gas for simmering.
Induction also requires ferromagnetic cookware, so not only is the stove extra expensive, but it requires more expensive cookware.
Induction is also noisier. Not only are there electric fans cooling the electronics, but if your pot is not perfectly centered you may get a hum or buzzing sound from the induction coil.
Induction also draws a stupid amount power while it is in use. Overall it uses that power more efficiently, but it does not play nicely with other appliances on the same circuit. Also, if you have an older house, you need to make sure you wiring, breakers, and circuit box are able to handle an induction range before you run out and buy one. Overall we use the hell out of our induction burner, but we still use the gas burners enough that it doesn’t make sense for us to spend the serious remodeling money we would need to pay to move to an all induction setup.
where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
you never used one, yet you have opinions about how it’s gonna be just as good as a gas one. Spoiler alert: it won’t. Oh, and ofc, buy a cheap induction stove for added suffering.
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 6 months ago
To be fair some folks have a false perception that the gas stove is better for some tasks and buying a whole new appliance sucks especially when it’s potentially the government forcing you to make the switch.
Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I wouldn’t say I love my gas stove (and oven), but I do find it way easier to cook on than electric. I’ve only recently become aware of the health dangers. Not really money in my budget currently to switch.
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Because a wok attached to a jet engine makes the best fried rice.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Good for cooking as they can generate a lot of heat quickly
someguy3@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
On no it takes 5 seconds for electric.
onion@feddit.de 6 months ago
Gas stoves tend to be slower than induction.
snownyte@kbin.social 6 months ago
I don't get it either. I hate them as well and I just see them as one more thing for landowners to fuck you over with on. I wanted to get into baking things at one point but because I baked a pizza for 20 minutes in my gas stove, that was like $15 on my utility bill on top of rent. Fuck that.
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Wtf an oven, gas or electric, typically costs 10s of cents per hour to run.