People also say they googled, unfortunately
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spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I asked ChatGPT
Why do people bring this up every fucking time?
sexy_peach@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not the same thing.
google allows for the possibility that the user was able to think critically about sources that a search returned
chapGPT is drunk uncle confidently stating a thing they heard third hand from Janet in accounting and then taking him at his word
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
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John Smith wrote at 12:28 on Friday
Peertube is actually developed by a communist who turned my daughter gay. Boycott!!!
hono4kami@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
At this point, ad blocker is pretty much mandatory for me, just like how antivirus software used to be a decade ago (probably more)
aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They are? This is why you use a pop up blocker…
HubertManne@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I love that fair and balanced opinion. I hope he is running for an office I can vote for. /s
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Unfortunately now Google is ChatGPT. It provides its own shitty AI answers, and its search results have been corrupted by an ocean of slop.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I assumed it was bwing used the current common usage for using a web search, like how kleenex is used for any facial tittle, not literally Google the search engine.
Speaking of literal, Google is puttung Gemini results before search results, not using chatGPT.
aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You’re giving people using google too much credit.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
chapGPT is drunk uncle confidently stating a thing they heard third hand from Janet in accounting and then taking him at his word
Also you: “why do people bother to mention when information comes from ChatGPT”
rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
Ai’s provide you with links so you can use your critical thinking
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Do you click on the links?
If they are links from the search, isn’t that just the same thing as doing a regular search and verifying the results?
What does this extra layer add other than an unreliable middleman who is extremely inefficient?
thedruid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because people are dumber than chatgpt.
It also proves we don’t have a 50/50 split in intelligence. We need to look at the mean, then we’ll see most people are just plain fucking dumb
hisao@ani.social 3 weeks ago
Also, lazier. I’m more likely to stick with information from the first 1-3 search results I decided to click, while AI will parse and summarize dozens in fraction of time I spend reading just one.
GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Honest answer? It’s easy and it won’t judge you for asking stupid questions.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Search engines and Wikipedia don’t judge you for asking stupid questions either.
GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
You’re right, but they take actual thought and effort. People who use chat gpt don’t wanna do that.
sixty@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Almost all content has been hyper-optimized to rank well on Google, not to provide good answers for humans
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
No it’ll just hallucinate shit that’ll make you look dumb when you go and state it as fact.
GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yep, agree. That’s why I don’t personally use it.
BullCrapDetekta33@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
what do you mean? it’s like being angry that people bring up I googled something
Slotos@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Googling at least until fairly recently meant „I consulted an index of Internet”. It is a means to get to the bit of information.
Asking ChatGPT is like asking a well-behaved parrot in the library and believing every word it says instead of reading the actual book the librarian would point you towards.
hisao@ani.social 3 weeks ago
I use it instead of search most of the time nowadays. Why? Because it does proceed to google it for me, parse search results, read the pages behind those links, summarize everything from there, present it to me in short condensed form and also provide the links where it got the info from. This feature been here for a while.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
And it still gets shit wrong.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
It’s all good, Lemmy users are violently anti-ai and are genuinely learning right now that chatgpt, mistral, perplexity etc can search the web
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
google: I checked the listing of news sites to find out information about a world event directly from professionals who double check their sources
chatGPT: I asked my hairstylist their uninformed opinion on a world event based on overheard conversations
I mean a moron could find the wrong information from google and your hairstylist could get lucky and be right, but odds are one source provides the opportunity for reliable results and the other is random and has a massive shit ton of downsides.
LesserAbe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lots of legitimate concerns and issues with AI, but if you’re going to criticize someone saying they used it you should at least understand how it works so your criticism is applicable.
It is useful. Chatgpt performs web searches, then summarizes the results in a way customized to what you asked it. It skips the step where you have to sift through a bunch of results and determine “is this what I was looking for?” and “how does this apply to my specific context?”
Of course it can and does still get things wrong. It’s crazy to market it as a new electronic god. But it’s not random, and it’s right the majority of the time.
Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It might be wrong more often than you think
grue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It skips the step where you have to sift through a bunch of results and determine “is this what I was looking for?” and “how does this apply to my specific context?”
Right: it skips the part where human intelligence and critical thinking is applied. Do you not understand how that’s a fucking problem‽
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
chatGPT: I asked my hairstylist their uninformed opinion on a world event based on overheard conversations
Are you like stuck in 2023?
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John Smith wrote at 12:28 on Friday
Peertube is actually developed by a communist who turned my daughter gay. Boycott!!!
kudra@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
What if your hairstylist is on the Fediverse, avoids mainstream social media, and spends a lot of their spare time reading scientific papers?
grue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Looking up a list of resources that you then evaluate yourself is very categorically different from getting an “answer” from a bot.
Affidavit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think it’s because it causes all of Lemmy to have a collective ragegasm. It’s kind of funny in a trollish way. I support OP in this endeavour.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Even the small local AI niche hates ChatGPT, heh.
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I asked ChatGPT and it says this feature was added 5 years ago! Really?
How works you phrase this differently?
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“It looks like this feature was added 5 years ago.”
If asking for confirmation, just ask for confirmation.
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
So, your solution is for the user to provide less information and then respond to people to inform them if they used chatgpt if asked?
It just seems like much less reps are used if they say they used ChatGPT.
Additionally, if they don’t say it and no one asks, in the future people might look for a source, at least this way there is a warning there might be misinformation.
I know what your going to say next, they should research the thing themselves independently of ChatGPT, but honestly, they probably don’t care/have the time to look up released notes over the past few years.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why would anyone ask where they got the info if it is accurate?
viking@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Apparently the feature was added 5 years ago.
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
So, your solution is for the user to provide less information and then respond to people to inform them if they used chatgpt if asked?
It just seems like much less reps are used if they say they used ChatGPT.
Additionally, if they don’t say it and no one asks, in the future people might look for a source, at least this way there is a warning there might be misinformation.
I know what your going to say next, they should research the thing themselves independently of ChatGPT, but honestly, they probably don’t care/have the time to look up released notes over the past few years.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
My partner describes her bowel movements to me when she returns from her daily ablutions.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is the golden age of misinformation and you are bitching about citations?
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
I asked Gemini, and my browser crashed, so, idk, man I guess it’s knowledge too powerful for human minds to contain.
x00z@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because they know it’s not accurate and explicitly mention it so you know where this information comes from.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Then why post it at all?
Xkdrxodrixkr@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Because they’d still like to know? it’s generally expected to do some research on your own before asking other people, and inform them of what you’ve already tried
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Asking ChatGPT isn’t research.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
AI seems to think it’s always right but in reality it is seldom correct.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Buddy, it’s nap time. Catch you in a couple hours when you’re feeling better.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
A nap does sound good.
Taiatari@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
Why post anything? Because they wanted to, the same way you posted something that you felt was worth adding. For me it wasn’t adding anything. Nonetheless I answer you. Because I wanted to.
BullCrapDetekta33@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
It makes idiots whine