A new measure attempts to force the Senate’s hand on passing legislation to ban TikTok or mandate the app’s sale.
WHY IS THIS STILL ALLOWED
House Moves Toward Bundling TikTok Bill With Aid to Ukraine and Israel
Submitted 7 months ago by holo_nexus@kbin.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/17/technology/tiktok-ban-ukraine-israel-aid.html
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EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 7 months ago
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
Because it’s the only way to get things done in a divided government?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
My state has a rule restricting bills to one thing, and it seems to work pretty well.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Package a TikTok bill along with aid for Ukraine, Israel AND Taiwan? Even lumping the aid bills together for 3 different countries is odd but the hell does TikTok now have to do with any of it? This is a weird system you guys got there.
bartolomeo@suppo.fi 7 months ago
Bernie Sanders has been saying for 30 years that the bill is too damn long! Representatives get very limited time to read bills so they usually don’t and just vote along party lines. This is a form of deception and it’s intentional.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They’re taking clues from Hungary. Our “child protection” (sic!) law bundled a pedophile registry (which is useless at best) alongside the censorship and de facto ban of sex education in schools, so Fidesz and Mi Hazánk (Fidesz satellite party which is a bit more honest about it being far-right) called the opposition pedo-defenders for not voting yes for it.
TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 7 months ago
It sucks I know, but if it gets Ukraine aid passed, lump in everything together. That’s the most important piece of legislation needed right now and we need it to pass.
small44@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Ukraine at least has an army to defend itself, so i would rather see neither have aid than bith Israel and ukraine having aid
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How does aid for Ukraine change the fact I work 50 hours a week and can’t afford a studio apartment?
DdCno1@kbin.social 7 months ago
China is the one aspect that unites all three. They are supporting Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, they are running a massive pro-Hamas disinformation campaign on social media, they are ramping up for an invasion of Taiwan and TikTok is their most effective propaganda and espionage tool to date.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
It’s not a system so much anymore. It’s more of a death spasm.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Political compromise is the process of inventing and enforcing policies that both parties can hate.
locuester@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Hahaha you should see our omnibus bills. They’re THOUSANDS of things bundled. It’s a complete joke.
Even this one will likely have little things unrelated added. It’s wild how much is in these bills.
fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 6 months ago
TikTok is controlled by the CCP which will happily push propaganda that impacts all three countries.
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 6 months ago
First off it’s not owned by the CCP and 2nd off almost all media you consume in America is American propaganda.
Buttons@programming.dev 6 months ago
the hell does TikTok now have to do with any of it?
Military spending bills will benefit the military industrial complex, and banning TikTok will benefit the military industrial complex.
Mazoku@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Real shit, how can I bypass article paywalls/sign up requests? I click the link, paywall. I find an alternative link: paywall. The internet is so shit
Mazoku@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Also as much as I hate TikTok, and the amount of time people spend on it, I think the government starting to censor what applications we can and can’t use is a scary thing. Congressmen have already stated “As soon as the TikTok legislation takes effect, we are going after Facebook and the others”
Can’t remember which one said it but it was an interview on NPR with a congressman.
lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Welcome to capitalism, where the poor get poorer and so on and so forth :-)
Here’s a copy. When the page has loaded, click on the Reader Mode in Firefox for clutter free reading : web.archive.org/…/tiktok-ban-ukraine-israel-aid.h…
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I say this all the time, and people say: “impossible, news outlets need revenue”. To which I will say that is entirely bullshit. We could easily afford grants for news, and provide continuing grants to news sources that rank the highest in 3rd party consumer evaluations.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 6 months ago
But they don’t currently.
So if you read it you should pay for it, or someone else will.
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 6 months ago
Look into noscript (Firefox extension), seems to work well for my local papers website (they use some js to hide the page after it loads, noscript blocks scripts from running).
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
1ft.io and 12ft.io work for me most of the time.
1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F20…
Otherwise I try one of the archive sites like archive.today or archive.ph but they don’t always work. I can’t even get past the captcha most times.
far_university1990@feddit.de 6 months ago
If reader mode not work, there are some website: 12ft.io, 1ft.io, removepaywall.com, archive.ph
HubertManne@kbin.social 7 months ago
of course.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Oh for fucks sake who did that?
Starkstruck@lemmy.world 6 months ago
We really need to ban adding unrelated things into one big bill.
4vgj0e@lemmy.world 7 months ago
“TikTok changed my life for the better” Jesus fuck
whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Honestly did for me. I love TikTok, and it feels like the social media app with the best news and conversations. Seriously.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I say this on Lemmy a lot and welcome the down votes. Although it seems more and more tame lately. I really think people are understanding the value of tiktok. I find out news on tiktok quicker than anywhere else, I don’t ever trust the details, but the events are always actually happening and usually they even have a relatively factual take on it.
Also, if anyone hasn’t tried out Donghua Jinlong food grade glycine, they really must.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
to the person in the image. no, tiktok ruined your attention span and helped ruin your life, same if it gets sold or you switch to something else
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Fun fact: these days, Tiktok is the main social media outlet for uncensored pro-Palestine activism, owing to the fact that Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and YouTube tend to censor most criticism of the Israeli apartheid government.
THAT’S why they’re suddenly pretending that its spying on users is any worse than that of the others (it’s not) now of all times: AIPAC and other major donors are feeling the heat and want to shut people up.
That and because it’s an election year and the combination of xenophobia and pretending to care about online privacy appeals to a wide selection of gullible prospective voters.
DdCno1@kbin.social 7 months ago
It's not for "uncensored pro-Palestine activism", it's a primary vector for distributing blatant propaganda and misinformation. China is one of the big three who are aggressively pushing a pro-Hamas narrative on social media:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/03/technology/israel-hamas-information-war.html
In case of paywall:
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 7 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Speaker Mike Johnson has indicated that he intends to package the measure, a modified version of a stand-alone bill that the House passed last month, with foreign aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.
The move “to package TikTok is definitely unusual, but it could succeed,” said Paul Gallant, a policy analyst for the financial services firm TD Cowen.
TikTok has said that the national security concerns are unfair and that it has spent more than $1 billion on a detailed plan for its U.S. operations that would wall off user data and offer third-party oversight of its content recommendations.
“It is unfortunate that the House of Representatives is using the cover of important foreign and humanitarian assistance to once again jam through a ban bill,” Alex Haurek, a spokesman for the company, said in a statement on Wednesday.
Last year, a federal judge temporarily blocked a statewide ban of TikTok from taking effect in Montana, preventing the nation’s first such prohibition.
Officials from the Department of Justice, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence briefed lawmakers in the House and Senate about their concerns, adding fuel to the effort to pass the bill.
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FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 7 months ago
American politics really is one of the dumbest, most corrupt things out there. Good god.
This feels like trying to trick your dog into taking his medicine, by hiding it in its food. So apparently your average US Senator is as dumb as a Golden Retriever if they need this tactic to actually get shit done.
It’s insane that Americans still tolerate this. Clearly they don’t have your best interests as their main focus.
Drusas@kbin.run 7 months ago
So many of us agree with you.
lesbian_seagull@lemm.ee 6 months ago
We all just don’t do shit about it. This includes me, I admit.
Wanderer@lemm.ee 7 months ago
None of the fuckers want to change the voting system either. They just blame the other guys.
Wish someone would take STV and everyone woukd follow
FrostKing@lemmy.world 6 months ago
A consistent viewpoint I see on America, is the assumption that if we don’t like a politician we can simply say so and they’re out of office. One of the biggest problems here is actually that most people feel lacking in their personal control on the government, even local. Everything is such a large scale, that ‘speaking up’ not only feels like it does nothing—it really does nothing, unless you’re famous or something. No one here is happy about how our government works, we just don’t have control over it. It’s an illusion of control, while the people at the top make the actual choices.