Oh great – now Facebook and Instagram want your private data to train Meta's latest AI pipe dream

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• Garbanzo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You just have to make a post on your Facebook profile saying that you don’t consent and that you retain all rights. Bonus points for working in some sovcit stuff.

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  • FaceDeer@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If your fingers are crossed when you check the "I Agree" box on their TOS then the terms are legally reversed and you control Meta's content rather than the other way around. Legally binding, it's in the Magna Carta.

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• FaceDeer@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Those adorable baby photos you posted for your friends and family? Sorry, they’re Meta’s now.

  You literally gave them to Meta. You uploaded them to Meta after agreeing to Meta's terms of service, which essentially say "we can do what we want with the stuff you give us." Big Bad Meta isn't sneaking into your houses and stealing photos off of your nightstand, they're not "seizing" anything.

  Also, Meta's AI "pipe dream" has so far been very successful. Their open-source libraries and LLaMA models have become industry standards. Their future work is likely to be productive.

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  • guacupado@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah it’s really wild the way everyone keeps trying to say that Meta is failing and falling apart or whatever. Meta’s doing better than it’s ever been.

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    • FaceDeer@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Social media loves to have targets that "everyone agrees" are terrible and worthy of hating. Being part of a righteously angry mob is fun, gives a nice safe dopamine hit and lets you show you are part of the in-group.

      Which isn't to say that Meta is innocent and Zuckerberg is a poor victim, of course. But it does mean that it's very easy to go overboard and believe false accusations that also fit with the narrative that Meta is terrible and awful and evil. There was a post a couple of weeks ago about Threads and the narrative in that conversation was that Meta was dedicated to eradicating open source (Embrace Extend Extinguish, think of XMPP!). I tried pointing out Meta's many contributions to open source but redirecting the mob was hopeless. Sure, the motives of these contributions are selfish. They want to crush their enemies. But in this case their enemies are OpenAI and Microsoft, and the weapon they're using is to fling open the walled gardens OpenAI depends on for the common man to enjoy.

      It's a useful cautionary tale to keep in mind whenever there's a target that everyone around you hates because they're "obviously" the devil. Maybe they are, but it's likely more complicated than it seems.

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s very impressive to me that 7B LLaMA actually says anything coherent if it was trained with FB data instead of suggesting that the best way to slice strings is with a bleach enema and some essential oils…

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• guyinachair@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Somehow people still don’t understand when a service is free. You’re the product

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  • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They don’t understand what being the product means because they don’t understand why their data being sold off is a problem because they don’t understand why their data is valuable.

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  • teft@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He says, on a free service.

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    • guyinachair@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I understand the irony 😅

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    • demonsword@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He says, on a free service.

      I make a monthly donation to the folks running mastodon.world (they also run lemmy.world). Yeah it’s free but you can and should contribute sometimes to keep it that way.

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    • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Open source doesn’t really count, especially with Lemmy where you just can host it yourself and there’s no way for anyone to harvest your data really

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  • FaceDeer@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This relies on a zero-sum view of the world, which is unfortunately common but isn't necessarily so.

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  • gedaliyah@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s already in all the service agreements that you click on when you sign up. They’ve already been harvesting data. They already have the right to use your posts and pictures for whatever they want

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• Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Oh no not my fb and insta.

  Oh wait. I don’t have that trash.

  Carry on

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  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Congrats, Lemmy is usually a vocal critic against those that “only care about issues when they affect them personally” but you managed to get upvotes.

    I am not holding it against you, bias is human but it is something some of us should reflect about.

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    • Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sorry I don’t grasp your comment. Can you elaborate

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• SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s like watching a rerun of “everything Blockchain”

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• Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The worst part is that I haven’t had an account on any of their products in well over a decade, and yet I’m sure that they’ll be able to use tons of my up-to-date info in their training.

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  • FaceDeer@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How are they getting that up-to-date info?

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    • Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      • Virtually every app on your phone has facebook/instagram trackers that gets access to whatever data that app has access to
      • Their ad network (that runs broadly across the internet) is not only known to fingerprint everyone that sees an ad. They’ve pioneered new was of keeping track of you even if your browser fingerprint changes.
      • Facebook (and one assumes Threads/Instagram) create ghost profiles of everyone mentioned or photographed in any posts on their platform if they can’t link that mined data to an actual account. So if your friends use the platform, then you do too, whether you know it or not.
      • Cambridge Analytica is probably not the only company doing that stuff, they’re just the ones that got caught.

      That’s not an exhaustive list, mind you.

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    • HowManyNimons@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My phone can’t uninstall Facebook.

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  • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Probably. Guaranteed you have a shadow account in the very least.

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• crypticthree@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Everyone. Start posting shit written by chatGPT. Accelerate the model collapse.

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  • TheFriar@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  LOL, it’s time to come up with fart jokes. Everyone should just communicate using fart jokes until meta bans fart jokes. Then just move on to the other words…tits, penis, butt, poop, toilet, etc etc.

  I’m sure Facebook will go tits up! Specially if everyone’s tits are hard pressed on the issue. Yeah this is totally tits dude! Well tits my ass and call me honky! Tits the season to be weary fallalala la la la laaah!

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• Badeendje@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They should just shell out 5 billion and buy reddit

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• dyslexicdainbroner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This should be interesting - AI trained by bots…

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• BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s not private data if you publish it online.

  They already had this data, I’m not sure why anyone cares what they’re doing with it now. It’s not any worse than selling it outright.

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• UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The information on Facebook was already used to sway elections. Cambridge Analytica

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• Muehe@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Now? Want?!

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• chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  the lizard king needs more data offerings to create his AI to learn to be more “human”

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• xor@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  i wonder what chat gpt would be like if trained on only and all private messages…

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• betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They think they do but they don’t. They really, really don’t.

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