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I’m so tired of every major tech company claiming their monopoly is for “security reasons”. It’s fear mongering plain and simple.
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Submitted 9 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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steventrouble@programming.dev 9 months ago
jabjoe@feddit.uk 9 months ago
It’s even cars, dishwashers, cookers, and other white goods now. They can’t open even their APIs “because of security”. Each one has their protocols to their own servers. If you get any access, it’s via their cloud/servers. WHEN they abandon those devices, stop supporting their protocols on their servers, any smarts are crippled. It’s just so short sighted. So vendor locking. So anti repair. So anti digital freedom. It’s plain monopolistic digital serfdom. Purely software, on pure computers, is yesterday’s battle front.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
A smart home is far more secure if every device isn’t connecting to some other company’s service that probably tries to save on IT costs. I don’t want an internet of things, I want a private network of things.
And when each thing is it’s own island, you lose some of the real benefits of having connected things. A smart home that I’d like is one where if I turn on the dishwasher or laundry machine, it checks the water softener to make sure there’s enough soft water that my dishes or clothes won’t end up with dissolved solids when they dry. Instead, smart water softeners that I’ve looked into are all about letting you check if you need salt from your phone or setting up a salt subscription service.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Not even saying that openness makes things more secure and this was supposed proven in late 90s and early 00s.
The world feels as if it’s generally become dumber.
I remember that in my childhood (born 1996, thinking 2004-2009) most adults would have right ideas about computing philosophically, even if not knowing a single specific thing and just pushing buttons.
Like that if somebody tries to frighten you into some action, they are crooks. Or that repairable things cost you less. Or that openness, modularity and interoperability are what our modern civilization is built upon, so these can’t be worse than their opposites.
nul9o9@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Or claiming things happening due to a bug when the result is a clear benefit to them.
daniskarma@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Big Ubisoft vibes.
DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 9 months ago
“lol woops we put huge ads in the game our bad”
DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 9 months ago
MSN.com refuses to allow reader mode. Microsoft answers captures your fucking back button with a redirect loop, like it’s fucking 2000 again. Fuck microsoft.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 months ago
I feel like that’s solvable at the browser level.
Like if I get redirected without clicking anything, pressing back should take you back to where you last clicked.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yes exactly, for both redirect loops and those dumb infinitely scrolling article pages where you have to back through each article you scrolled down to. It’s like a punishment for being interested in the next article the site has. You scroll up to reverse scrolling down, not hit the back button.
DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 9 months ago
I assumed it had been solved since it’s been two decades since I last remember seeing it.
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Dear God, not a slamming. Anything but that. Please don’t. Please.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Just for once I want to see a journalist run up and suplex some tech CEO or whoever. Just once.
Bam. “Slammed.”
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Suddenly I’m reminded of an incident in 1999…
Igloojoe@lemm.ee 9 months ago
For me, slamming means you take your slammer down on their stack of pogs.
anonionfinelyminced@kbin.social 9 months ago
Microsoft IN SHAMBLES after being SLAMMED by Internet Article.
- thumbnail of the MS logo with a red curvy arrow pointing to it and a stock photo of a kid crying -
ryan@the.coolest.zone 9 months ago
you WON'T BELIEVE what MOZILLA said about MICROSOFT 🚨 (watch to the end)
kimjongunderdog@kbin.social 9 months ago
It's such a forceful word that's lost all meaning in this day and age. Every time I see the word 'slam' in a headline I know literally nothing has been done about the problem.
Like, thanks Mozilla. You pointed a finger. What now?
superduperenigma@lemmy.world 9 months ago
kimjongunderdog claps back at at media by grilling them over their use of ‘slammed’
FaceDeer@kbin.social 9 months ago
"Slamming" has definitely been enshittified.
ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world 9 months ago
[deleted]StompyRobot@mastodon.gamedev.place 9 months ago
@ForgottenFlux
Meanwhile, trying to use Gmail or Drive from edge, Google keeps popping up "we recommend chrome!"Chrome will kill ublock origin soon, so I'm weaning off it.
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 9 months ago
GET SLAMMED BOIII
recapitated@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Phew thank goodness they weren’t blasted.
HopingForBetter@kbin.social 9 months ago
Newer windows machines won't even let you install non-microsoft-store programs without checking a one-time-no-way-back-box of liability. So much for being an end-user...
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Straight up due to Microsoft’s methods lately I’ve been shifting everything I can to Linux
My goal is by the time support is dropped for Windows 10 to have seamlessly switched to Linux (I’m feeling Linux Mint TBH)
kescusay@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I switched to Linux years ago, and have never looked back. Every computer in my house except one (my mandatory work laptop) runs some flavor of Linux, and my kids have never been forced to use Windows at all. And if I have my way, they never will.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Did that about a year ago. It’s a giant pain in my ass but not bigger than MS’s incessant begging or not being in control of my own computer.
Plopp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Exactly the same boat, except I’m aiming for OpenSUSE. Yast, BTRFS with snapshots out of the box etc.
Coreidan@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Bruh just do it. It will take you maybe the weekend. No reason to spend the next few years thinking about it.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Add to that - Windows 11 requires UEFI boot… Which is heading in the direction of locking the OS to the hardware, for “security”.
Nevermind UEFI has a pre-boot execution capability, “for security” (supposedly to enable location/anti-theft), that’s already been shown to permit a system being hacked.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Anything that runs code can be hacked. That’s also true of Bios. Efi has more capabilities though.
ares35@kbin.social 9 months ago
's mode' is the 'no way back' wall you can disable.. stupidly requiring a microsoft account to do--in order to install stuff on your pc without needing a damn microsoft account in the first place.
the other is a setting, which is just a scary 'warning' about installing programs from outside the garden, that you can change.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
You can actually disable it without an account! You have to edit a simple bios setting, something like disabling secure boot.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Are the patterns really dark, when installing windows it HOUNDS me to switch to Edge at every turn, or to sign into MS incessantly, for “security reasons”? Lol.
No, I’m sure there are plenty of dark patterns too, but holy cow, Win10 setup has driven me, more than any other version, to build my own windows automated installer setup (using MS tools).
At least the tools are a lot better than they used to be.
I have a spreadsheet of hundreds of changes a new system needs when first installed.
I really appreciate the devs of tools like Winaero Tweaker, Bulk Crap Uninstaller, O&O Shutup, and PrivacyZilla.
That said, get yourself a copy of Tiny10, available on archive.org.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 months ago
Yeah, you type “chrome” into Edge, and it’s like YOU DON’T NEED THAT!
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Hahaha, so true
Kethal@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I have a folder with notes about what needs to be done. It’s not even 20 things. Can you share your list so I know what I’m missing?
weLookAbove@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Could I see your folder of 20 things?
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Obligatory, use Linux. With companies you vote with you money. The more you use it the worse it will get. They believe they have a stronghold on the market
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Linux sucks.
There, I said it. And I use it every day
It’s as bad as Windows in its own way.
The reason windows is the de facto OS is it all works out of the box. Users don’t have to muck around with things.
One example of many: I need to remote into another machine… What do I use? RDP is available immediately on Windows and just works.
Fine, go find an RDP client. Which one? We’ll, fortunately my version of Linux (wait, “my version” of the OS? Oh, cause there’s a million flavors of Linux), anyway, my version has an app store, fortunately. Now, which RDP client? We’ll, Remmina seems prolific. Wait, which version of Rrmmina, there’s like 6 in the app repository. OK, fine, I’ll use this one.
Wait, there’s extensions for it. Do I need any of them for RDP? Hard to tell, because documentation is all over the place. Some things have practically no description, so I’m not sure what they’re for/if I need them.
OK, ok, got Remmina installed. Punch in the IP address of the machine I need to RDP to. No go - bad security. What? I RDP to this box 20 times a day. OK, fine, Google the error message. Oh, you need downgrade TLS in Linux, because current versions have deprecated TLS 1. OK, fine, I have a link to the repository for that package. Run it. Fails to install. Gotta go make another change to permit reverting to a lower security standard.
Walk away, got other shit to do.
Two days later, come back. Reboot, because it probably needs it.
Try RDP. No go, same TLS error. Start thinking about it… Wtf- RDP doesn’t use TLS. But Remmina defaulted to using TLS even though I selected RDP as the connection type.
Why would I even think to dig into sub menus to change security from TLS to RDP when I chose a fucking RDP connection type in the first place?!
This is one of dozens of issues I run into when running Linux. Fucking printer notifications with no way to turn them off short of a command line, wtf? And this is on a supposedly user-friendly version?
Note I had Unix classes 35 years ago… Before Linux existed. I’m no neophyte. Now imagine trying to help a regular user with shit Ike this. I can’t imagine.
This before we look at app/file compatibility. People don’t have time to play fuck-fuck with word docs getting whacked because someone uses open /Libre office. Then there’s Publisher, PowerPoint, OneNote and SharePoint. User management via the domain, Group Policy, Exchange, SCOM.
Since Linux lacks a single unified system, trying to manage it via something like SCOM is a nightmare, unless you build everything the same. And if you’re going to do that, may as well use windows where this all works right out of the box.
Linux takes as long to install as restoring a windows box. The difference is windows works on first login, even with the annoyances. And let’s not talk about video or sound drivers on Linux. People still fight that (it’s way better, but nothin like windows).
And THAT is why Linux can’t compete with Windows on the desktop, even with the current BS of Windows.
So please, stop with this simplistic, naive bullshit of “just switch to Linux”. It’s tiresome to hear, it’s unrealistic, it ignores real-world limitations, requirements, and concerns.
It’s different, not easier - it comes with it’s own set of issues.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I only boot windows every once in a while (every couple months more or less) but it’s certainly gotten very aggressive in the past couple years. And I’m not in the US. I can’t even imagine what it’s like over there since the users are typically considered as walking wallets by companies.
Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 9 months ago
SUUUPER SLAAAAAMMMM
aaaantoine@lemmy.world 9 months ago
OFF THE TOP ROPE!
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 9 months ago
STRAIGHT TO POUND TOWN!
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
I would very like to learn this slam for dark pattern use martial technique.
When I see dark patterns, I can’t help but think the designer is antagonistic and is not interested in engaging me but manipulating me. It puts into question the good faith of the whole website / application / web-browser / operating system.
tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I feel insulted every time Windows has some sort of pop-up or notification that is obviously manipulative, like making it appear that I HAVE to make Edge my default browser and putting ads for Edge and other Microsoft products on the lock screen disguised as ‘fun facts’. The people making these decisions don’t respect the autonomy of people, they want to force us into habits that benefit Microsoft to the detriment of the user.
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I got an ad for finding new jobs on LinkedIn on a work computer lock screen
pastaPersona@lemmy.world 9 months ago
If only Microsoft relied on making edge a worthy competitor and focused on the UI/UX instead of these dumb head games.
Back when edge wasn’t just a chromium skin it was a neat idea, EdgeHTML was different at the very least and more options are always good compared to chrome monopoly bs. But at this point it’s just Microsoft branded chrome with a (kinda shitty) GPT agent baked in.
ares35@kbin.social 9 months ago
it's not just windows, and not just edge. i just installed firefox mobile on a guy's android phone because even on msn.com (which he reads for 'news' daily. it's about his only online activity) via chrome they hide the annoying 'continue reading' button and have an even more annoying 'continue reading in the app) one in its place. added a firefox link directly to that page on his home screen. he's a happy camper now. the less-annoying one is back and he (for the time being, anyway) is no longer pressured into installing yet another app-that-just-shows-a-fucking-web-page app.
wick@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I guess I hadn’t really thought about it much because I consider using edge on windows the best choice, but the choice should not be interfered with, even if it is the wrong one.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
The best choice is whatever works for you. Edge is most certainly not the best option for me.
automaton@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah but I think the point is that users should have a choice, then of course they are free to choose whatever they like - in your case Edge.
soda3x@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Today I was playing a JRPG on Game Pass Ultimate on my phone and a banner like ad appeared advertising a new game over the subtitles
IM A PAYING CUSTOMER FFS MICRO$HIT
aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Link to the PDF
zerog_bandit@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This happens for Chrome too. Windows prevents .ics files from being opened by Chrome.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 9 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Mozilla on Thursday accused Microsoft of forcing its Edge browser down the throats of Windows users through “dark patterns” – design elements geared to push people towards certain decisions.
“Windows users everywhere, especially in the rest of the world, continue to have their choices inhibited, overridden and undermined by Microsoft’s use of harmful design,” Mozilla wrote in a post about its report.
The salient regulatory action here is Europe’s Digital Markets Act (DMA), a set of rules intended to promote fair competition across the bloc.
Mozilla cites the implementation of the DMA – enforcement is set to begin in March – as a reason to hope that the barriers to browser competition will come down.
“With this message Microsoft is taking advantage of the trust gained by their custodial role as OS provider and using it to misdirect users, implying that compliance is necessary for security reasons,” the report alleges.
In our view, these designs coerce, manipulate, or deceive users and are therefore unjustifiable, with the potential to cause a variety of consumer, society, and market harms.
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HopingForBetter@kbin.social 9 months ago
Newer windows machines won't even let you install non-microsoft-store programs without checking a one-time-no-way-back-box of liability. So much for being an end-user...
brothershamus@kbin.social 9 months ago
Member that time when Microsoft got dragged in federal court for ten years before they eventually decided Microsoft was a monopoly for forcing their browser on everyone and then sweet fuck all happened to them for it?
Well the judiciary sure has changed - now they're way more computer savvy and they . . . checks earpice . . . I'm sorry, that should be: they're just as fucking clueless as they were thirty years ago if not even more so. We're screwed, goodnight.
snownyte@kbin.social 9 months ago
The point where we learned how useless the judiciary is, is when they couldn't even pin down Zuckerberg. The media made it all sound like "Ohhhh, Mark is getting grilled now! he's going to face time and penalties!"
And...nothing came of it. Because the judiciary is too dumb to even understand Facebook.
skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
it’s some anomaly that one of the biggest companies in the workd does advertising and not something tangible
umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
either clueless of paid for
MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The EU forced Microsoft to offer a browser picker dialog. I’ve been wondering where that went and according to Wikipedia that judgement that compelled Microsoft to make the browser picker has expired. And thus… Microsoft dropped it immediately.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
MS realized that the more clueless people are, the less it gets punished. So it made its stuff as chaotic as possible, in the best traditions of porn\warez\phishing sites and Chinese software. It’s a win for them, cause it worked for them and Google\Apple.… .