I gave up after the 2nd heavily edited photo. What’s the point if the games rigged. Are either real faces? No.
Test Yourself: Which Faces Were Made by A.I.?
Submitted 9 months ago by veeesix@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.world
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wellee@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Plopp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah what the fuck was that about? Clearly rigged for sensationalism.
TheFriar@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Yeah, but I found there are telltale AI signs in the fake ones.
But you’re absolutely right. They made it harder by editing the real faces to make them look fake anyway.
shneancy@lemmy.world 9 months ago
the real photos just looked like professional photography, that’s how your photos will look like when you hire a photographer
FaceDeer@kbin.social 9 months ago
This is the sort of thing that I like to send to people who assure me that "all AI generated art looks wrong" or whatever.
No, the AI generated art that looks wrong is the only AI generated art that you notice. The rest slips by.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 9 months ago
9/10.
AI sucks at reflections, so pay attention to the pupils to see if both eyes reflect similar shapes.
Also a few had odd lines where their neck was like surgically reattached to another body.
ourob@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
Also, pupils are often not regular circles in AI images. The only one I got wrong was the real picture of the guy wearing dirty glasses.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I think the point still holds. AI generation has gotten very very good which requires you to look for minute details most people won’t know to look for. The small issues you point out are probably easily solved if you really wanted to make them even harder to detect with a post processing model or just eventually improvements. This is just some random blog post too, so it’s unlikely they even put that much work into it. I’m sure experts will emerge that will have all those details in mind to make them even harder to detect.
gullible@kbin.social 9 months ago
As always, it’s hard to determine what is AI and what is a filter. The guy whose entire face was edited to be flat and tilted 10 degrees toward the camera got me. That said, 8/10. The first two clued me into what the author was going for and I got the rest right.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Modern phone cameras are passing pretty much all photos through AI filters now to add detail or upscale, so filtered photos are more the norm than exception now, so that doesn’t really help people to filter out AI images. Point still stands that it’s already gotten extremely good and now requires recognizing tiny details. It doesn’t have to go far to get to the point where it’ll be next to impossible to tell.
Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Yep, same with 8/10. Real faces are less symmetrical than AI
Zealous@lemmy.world 9 months ago
2/10. Are there any giveaways that a face is AI generated?
CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Faces are very well done these days, you can go to thispersondoesnotexist.com and keep refreshing images. Eventuall you’ll notice little things, like earrings not matching or sunglasses being 2 different halves melded together, hats and hair can look weird, etc
But most of them appear very human
veeesix@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
That’s wild. Some of them are really good, but I see what you mean once you keep refreshing the page. Glasses are a good tell once you look closely. Earlobes also appear to be difficult to perfect as well.
I went back to the NYT article and tried again with my goldfish memory using that deduction and got 6/10.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Also, these are all emulating professional camera conditions. In a more standard phone photo scenario, the lower quality can lead to all sorts of weird looking illusions in real photos that can make them look weird. I was playing with some AI photo editing and saw some things that looked off which I thought was the generation messing up, but after checking the original photo again I saw that the weird stuff was actually in the original photo due to weird shadows or motion blur.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 9 months ago
For me it was the eyes. Pretty much all of the real faces had realistic reflections in the eyes. The AI ones didn’t.
I got 9/10.
Gork@lemm.ee 9 months ago
At least until AI image generators turn RTX on and do path tracing.
gerryflap@feddit.nl 9 months ago
I’ve done a lot of stuff with generative models called GANs, like StyleGAN (2?) which I believe these pictures to be from. My main focus is the “hair bubble effect”. This works best for people with longer hair, which is why I had 30% wrong in this test. Basically, by starting at images generated by these models for a long time, I started noticing that it is bad at creating the few loose hairs that stand out from the main pack. These plucks of hair often seem to go around some invisible “bubble” or weirdly flow together with the background. So my main point of focus is often the transition between hair and background, or just the hair in general, since that’s where it’s most likely to mess up. But the images picked here were also intentionally picked to be the most confusing according to the rest of the article, so it’s not that weird that these are hard to classify. Some of the real ones looked extremely AI to me, and it was only after the first false positive that I got a lot more careful with labeling some as “AI” than I normally would.
shalafi@lemmy.world 9 months ago
2/10 here as well. I went fast to test myself.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You beat random chance! I mean in the opposite direction… So I’m not really sure what that says…
ourob@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
The eyes. Look for non-circular pupils or noticeably different-sized pupils.
VioletRing@kbin.social 9 months ago
I was mostly looking for details to indicate the person was real. Got 8/10. Someone had an odd tooth, someone else's eyebrow hair looked like they had just woken up. There was one picture I immediately knew was AI, because it just seemed off. Another had some strange wrinkle texture on the neck that just seemed unnatural. One of the 2 I got wrong because I thought the eye wrinkles were too much for the rest of the face. Turned out to be a real person.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
I got 6/10. For me the thing I was looking for most was images that seemed to have wrinkles and things that seemed slightly blurred out. I don’t know if this is because it’s trained on a dataset where real people frequently do this (which is why it’s only a 6/10, because many pictures of real people have this feature as well), or if it’s because it’s generating detail and that’s just how it looks in current versions.
AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I failed the first 6 guesses and quit. Years before this recent AI boom, there was thispersondoesnotexist and even back then, AI was generating extremely convincing faces.
DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 9 months ago
This thread is being used to train AI, no?
MyDearWatson616@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Imagine the data they will collect from the dozens of lemmy users.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 9 months ago
Our words might be scrapped, but it won’t help with facial generation.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 9 months ago
So reading why we can tell the difference won’t train something to work around it?
hubobes@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
tyler@programming.dev 9 months ago
6/10. Of the ones I got wrong 3 of them seemed heavily photoshopped. https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/5cd12302-d3d4-4212-9cf0-b0502301fd79.png
Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
I got the same score, though I got the dark haired woman. I don’t remember the one I missed instead.
I feel like trying to identify unedited images and AI isn’t as hard, but when they’re edited it gives many of the same details that AI generated ones have. Mostly it’s the smoothing out of details. This could be just that the AI was trained on a dataset pulled from images available online (which are almost all edited to some extent) or just because the way it generates it makes details not quite clear. Probably a little of both.
yuki2501@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Fuck, I got 50%. If others had the same result, you can guess the implications.
june@lemmy.world 9 months ago
So I figured out the difference here, and it’s gamed to make you think they’re backward.
The real photos appear to be professionally edited with the light, filters, and bokeh being perfect while the AI generated are more like candids you’d take with your phone. This is an intentional move by the author to make this scarier than it actually is, imo. Next to each other we expect the AI to be more ‘perfect’ than the real photos. Once I figured that out I got them all right.
If they’d put candids next to these AI generated images I’m willing to bet you’d have done better.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Same, so no better than random chance
Meron35@lemmy.world 9 months ago
7/10. Real people are much uglier than what AI generates, e.g. more skin texture, asymmetrical features, odd face proportions etc. Unfortunately makes telling apart edited/filtered images of real people very difficult from AI generated ones.
IIRC people find “average” looking faces much more attractive, and if AI is essentially mushing many different faces together this would make sense.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I think they purposefully picked real people with slightly odd proportions to try and throw you off, but did it a little too consistently making it easier to guess. I think with more work put into it it would be very hard to tell. It’s hard to tell and this is just a quickly thrown together blog quiz.
hondaguy97386@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
5/10 on my first try. Basically we’re all just guessing. That is scary as fuck.
norbert@kbin.social 9 months ago
5/10 even after reading this thread and looking at eyes and earlobes.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
And those small tiny issues can be fixed with a Lora or post processing to refine those specific issues that the general model missed.
7heo@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Same. We’re as good as a coin toss… 😭
veeesix@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Only managed to identify 3/10 faces correctly.
ryry1985@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I surprisingly got 6/10 The AI ones that I guessed had some faint lines on the skin near the chin that seemed kinda blurry.
Bogasse@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Does the ninth person have two different earpieces !? Common !
Neato@ttrpg.network 9 months ago
Well since it’s a bunch of real faces combined it’s not that difficult to make a realistic face.
veeesix@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
It’s perfectly ok to admit you got 0/10. No judgement here!
Chozo@kbin.social 9 months ago
That's not how modern AI image generation works. AI no longer just mix-and-matches various assets from a library. It's creating its own unique images based on what it knows about the shapes and colors of things its been trained on.
sour@kbin.social 9 months ago
walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 9 months ago
4/10 here. I’m surprised how well AI can do wispy hair details.
flakpanzer@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Got 6/10, for at least 2 pictures I looked at the outside corners of the eyes, if they match it’s likely AI, most real humans likely do not have symmetry there.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
Some of the real pictures are using filters that make them look like AI.
Chozo@kbin.social 9 months ago
Yeah, one of them definitely had the fake, post-processed bokeh effect added to it that a lot of phones with "portrait mode" use. Which, to be completely fair, makes that technically an AI-generated image.
I was looking for artifacts of AI generation, and I found them, but I'm still wrong. I can't win.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 months ago
It makes it an AI-edited image, not AI-generated.
But yeah I agree, these sure seem like they were cherry-picked to fool you.