Wow, finally a handheld with malware-like bloat and a near guarantee of serious design flaws!
MSI CLAW gaming handheld leaked, features Intel Core Ultra 7 155H with Arc graphics and 32GB memory
Submitted 10 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
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degen@midwest.social 10 months ago
Vash63@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Isn’t that every Windows handheld?
Pwnmode@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yes but just wait til Gigabyte gets their hands in the game.
Wolfwood1@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Wow! Intel processor AND Windows? The worst of both choices for a handheld!
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Might make a superb hand-warmer in these cold Winter months, though
Patches@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Meanwhile the Deck is both a hand warmer, and an aromatic candle.
Denjin@lemmings.world 10 months ago
For 10 minutes before it needs charging again
dinckelman@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This thing having 32gb of ram is complete overkill, but I genuinely don’t expect it to have good battery life at all, which is the bigger issue
zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Probably required that much ram to feed to windows.
torvusbogpod@lemmy.world 10 months ago
32GB could be useful if the bandwidth is fast enough to be suitable VRAM, because then you can run games that want 16GB allocated to the CPU without having a GPU performance drop
pokemaster787@ani.social 10 months ago
I’ve seen comparisons of the 32GB vs 16GB GPD Win4 and there’s about a 10-15% uplift in performance at the same TDP in a lot of games with the 32GB model.
So it can give an increase in performance, or at the least let you run at a slightly lower TDP for the same performance and a bit better battery life.
Of course this was the 6800U, hard to say if the effects are similar for Intel’s chipset or not.
dinckelman@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If that’s the case, that’s great. We’ll have to wait until benchmarks drop eventually
Schmeckinger@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Sometimes I run out of Ram on my steam deck.
Jode@midwest.social 10 months ago
This thing is going to have like a minute and a half worth of battery life.
BigTrout75@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Just shows how successful the Stream Deck is. Funny, the “PC selling game” has traditionally been BIGGER and FASTER, so that’s what they’re doing. 🤔
Go Steam Deck!
verysoft@kbin.social 10 months ago
Just looks flimsy as shit. The Steam Deck is premium quality at a much more affordable price, the point these 'competitors' seem to be missing while rushing for higher numbers on their spec sheets.
yamanii@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Huh, I find the deck to be the ugliest though, but still the best since it’s battery life is unbeatable.
Melonpoly@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yes lets use the lesser efficient chip option for a portable device.
freebee@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Sure, but only if we can do it in a combo with a lesser efficient operating system for any device.
numberfour002@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The battery life difference between the OLED Steam Deck versus the Asus and Lenovo competitors was a major factor in my decision to choose the Deck. As others have pointed out, it’s hard to imagine that MSI (of all companies) can deliver on battery life given these other specs, let alone other considerations like weight & size. Good for them if they manage to excel at all of these things, but I’m going to have to see it to believe it. And as of right now, I haven’t seen anything at all.
Patches@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
The only reason to choose MSI for PC parts is price so yes it would be very hard for them to compete. Their QA is non-existent and their Customer Support Ethereal.
yamanii@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Also afterburner, great piece of software.
Gakomi@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well Arc is still bad as far as I know so I don’t see this being as good as Steam Deck, Rog Ally or Legion. But I would really like to be proven wrong!
RisingSwell@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Arc is good at newer games, however a handheld is more likely than most devices to play older games so maybe not the best choice.
Grass@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
It would be good if more developers optimize to have an enjoyable experience on these current handhelds if nothing else. It would make for an easier entry point as far as system requirements go for PC gaming in general. I still don’t get how games that look hardly any better than GameCube or PS2 on their low to medium settings run so poorly on hardware that could simultaneously emulate multiple instances of the consoles on multiple monitors, with visual improvement mods, for bootleg tournaments without breaking a sweat.
This device looks like just a slightly less ugly rog handheld, but not significantly though.
yamanii@lemmy.world 10 months ago
During the valve panel on Tokyo Game Show, Harada from tekken said that the deck is now the main target for optimization for them, since it’s basically a console just not locked down.
Sabin10@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I would love it if T8 could lock a solid 60fps on the deck. T7 fluctuates between 45 to 60 for me with everything set to low, not ideal for a fighting game.
Zoldyck@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Interesting how handheld gaming is slowly changing the gaming focus.
yamanii@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Intel chip on portables, oh no.
tamiya_tt02@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It looks so much like the Asus ROG Ally, I wonder if Asus could sue for infringement. I love my Ally, but 32 gb of RAM sounds nice. Not sure if Intel is the best chip choice, but only benchmarks will tell.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It doesn’t just look like the Ally, it looks like they used the exact same PCBs with a slightly different exterior. Same Led joysticks, same screen bezels, same button locations…
Even the small vertical buttons on the left and right of the screen are present.
BmeBenji@lemm.ee 10 months ago
No trackpads? I’m straight-up not interested. With how finicky PC gaming can be when it comes to window-focus issues, if I don’t have extra controls on a handheld PC to be able to randomly click or mash emulated keyboard keys I’m not gonna feel comfortable with the handheld.
Copernican@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m wondering if it’s a touch screen to help with that. I prefer steam controller track pads, but I could get by with a touchscreen for portable in some games.
ekZepp@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Is the “Intel chip” a good or bad news? I7 seems good.
simple@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Probably bad news. Even though the newest intel chip is way better than the last one, it uses a lot more power than AMD meaning the battery and thermals will be worse.
ekZepp@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So basically a Black Rogh Ally evem more power-hungry. Ty for the reply btw 👍
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
That fucking name is reason not to buy it already.
It’s not even claw, it’s CLAW grrrrr fear me and my pocket Cheeto dust.
Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I much prefer the Steam Decks approach on handheld gaming. Instead of matching the latest desktop systems in hardware they focus on the console-like experience.
bridge_too_close@kbin.social 10 months ago
I also like how they try to stay within a certain price range and focus on experience and efficiency, rather than push the latest hardware.
Katana314@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I highly doubt Valve makes a significant profit on Steam Decks, though. Their main win from selling them is that they keep people that have off-desktop gaming needs using their products/games. (Plus, I think Valve just likes advancing gaming even when it doesn’t win them a profit)
Basically, it’s not surprising these other hardware makers don’t have any business model where they can sell a cheap handheld. It’s probably smarter to go for the niche of enthusiasts that want something stronger than the Deck.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
My bet is that with them being more popular than anyone could have expected, we’ll see the release of a “gaming” version of Windows that better fits these devices.
lorty@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
I don’t expect Microsoft to put time and effort into something like that unless they plan to make an Xbox portable of their own.
Katana314@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That seems to be more of a software plan than a hardware feature, though? I would bet, with some brief engineering, someone could make all these Lenovo/MSI/Asus products run SteamOS as far back as their startup tutorial instead of Windows.