s1e9 “Prime Factors”
That's what I thought
Submitted 11 months ago by Stamets@startrek.website to risa@startrek.website
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ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
How’d this manage to use both it’s and its for same thing?
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Idunno, just copy pasted from IMDB. And I’m terrible at proof reading.
Stamets@startrek.website 11 months ago
Also why Vulcans seem to make the most boneheaded decisions half the time. A species of endless logic and not a shred of common sense.
dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 11 months ago
This is most evident in the TOS episode “The Galileo Seven”. It’s a horrible scenario: Spock is in command of a marooned crew on a hostile planet. He fails to take both a scared crew and an aggressive native species of spear throwing giants, into consideration. He makes one logical survival choice after another, failing to address everyone’s irrationality at every turn, which ultimately costs two lives. Nothing more than the crew’s faith in the chain of command (and perhaps faith in Scotty’s engineering skills) holds this disasterpiece together.
And Vulcans in Trek kind of just get worse from there. You’d think they’d eventually learn to take “irrational actors” into account with assessing situations, but they don’t. While that seems far-fetched, our economists here in 21st century Earth don’t either.
Ser_Salty@feddit.de 11 months ago
Bones-posting
samus12345@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sometimes lying is the most logical course of action.
VindictiveJudge@startrek.website 11 months ago
I think they technically say that Vulcans don’t lie, not that Vulcans can’t lie. That would imply that they prefer to avoid it, but can if they need to. I mean, if Tuvok couldn’t lie then he never would have been able to go under cover as a member of the Maquis.
MimicJar@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Chakotay: Welcome to the Maquis Resistance, are you spy?
Tuvok: That would be logical.
And the show is over before it begins.
PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Londo: I do not lie when I say this could have been a major embarrassment to all concerned.
Sheridan: Oh, I’m sure ambassador. You don’t lie, the Minbari don’t lie, no one around here…
Londo: Who said the Minbari don’t lie?
EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 11 months ago
Lying is practically all the Vulcans do according to Enterprise.
TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 11 months ago
We’d never build a spy outpost underneath our holiest monastery!
DmMacniel@feddit.de 11 months ago
you see it was only our second holiest monastery. And that spy outpost was first.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“We Vulcans are incapable of lying… about everything but that stuff.”
Infynis@midwest.social 11 months ago
All Vulcans know how to do is be bisexual, eat hot chip, and lie.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
I don’t understand why people assume Vulcan’s and Data can’t lie because they don’t have emotions.
You don’t need feelings to lie.
Gabu@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t understand why people assume Vulcans don’t have emotions. Their emotions are stronger than those of any human.
KingJalopy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Which is why they work so hard to keep them in check. If only we could take a note from that.
constantokra@lemmy.one 11 months ago
They’re largely autisticly coded, and we don’t generally lie, to the extent that it causes us problems. So I’d guess people are picking up on the coding.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
It’s known on earth as politics
Where you bend the truth, modify explanations, omit certain facts, exclude details, interpret data, make your own calculations or highlight known unknowns as well as unknown ones. Then you talk in great detail about everything without ever passing along any new information … it’s a highly developed skill.
But in everything you do … you never lie, you never tell an untruth … you just use logic and reason and stating certain truths while omitting others to make the other person believe what you want them to believe.
pedz@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Also true for Minbari.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I always thought this was a bullshit cop-out.
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No you didn’t, you lied.
Stamets@startrek.website 11 months ago
Agreed. I’m guessing this is one of those ‘myths’ that Humanity has about Vulcans and the Vulcans just play completely into it to have an advantage. But the longer a human works with a Vulcan, the sooner they realize that it’s utter bullshit and that most Vulcans are emotional lying whores.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Emotional slut:
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I mean it’s largely Berman at play here, but still.
WarmSoda@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Wasn’t Spock originally supposed to be an android, but they changed him to space elf because of budget?
I could be making this up. I feel like that’s something I read though.
DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Vulcans = twinks in their early 20s?
cybervseas@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I mean they’re not even bound to tell the truth like the Aes Sedai, who anyway manage to deceive plenty. Plus even if Vulcans had some kind of instinct to only tell the truth, Spock is part human.