That's what I thought

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• FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I always thought this was a bullshit cop-out.

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  No you didn’t, you lied.

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agreed. I’m guessing this is one of those ‘myths’ that Humanity has about Vulcans and the Vulcans just play completely into it to have an advantage. But the longer a human works with a Vulcan, the sooner they realize that it’s utter bullshit and that most Vulcans are emotional lying whores.

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    • ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Emotional slut:

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      I mean it’s largely Berman at play here, but still.

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    • WarmSoda@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wasn’t Spock originally supposed to be an android, but they changed him to space elf because of budget?

      I could be making this up. I feel like that’s something I read though.

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    • DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      most Vulcans are a bunch of lying emotional sluts

      Vulcans = twinks in their early 20s?

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  • cybervseas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean they’re not even bound to tell the truth like the Aes Sedai, who anyway manage to deceive plenty. Plus even if Vulcans had some kind of instinct to only tell the truth, Spock is part human.

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• ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  s1e9 “Prime Factors”

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  • usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How’d this manage to use both it’s and its for same thing?

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    • ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Idunno, just copy pasted from IMDB. And I’m terrible at proof reading.

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Also why Vulcans seem to make the most boneheaded decisions half the time. A species of endless logic and not a shred of common sense.

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    • dejected_warp_core@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is most evident in the TOS episode “The Galileo Seven”. It’s a horrible scenario: Spock is in command of a marooned crew on a hostile planet. He fails to take both a scared crew and an aggressive native species of spear throwing giants, into consideration. He makes one logical survival choice after another, failing to address everyone’s irrationality at every turn, which ultimately costs two lives. Nothing more than the crew’s faith in the chain of command (and perhaps faith in Scotty’s engineering skills) holds this disasterpiece together.

      And Vulcans in Trek kind of just get worse from there. You’d think they’d eventually learn to take “irrational actors” into account with assessing situations, but they don’t. While that seems far-fetched, our economists here in 21st century Earth don’t either.

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    • Ser_Salty@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bones-posting

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• samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sometimes lying is the most logical course of action.

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• VindictiveJudge@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think they technically say that Vulcans don’t lie, not that Vulcans can’t lie. That would imply that they prefer to avoid it, but can if they need to. I mean, if Tuvok couldn’t lie then he never would have been able to go under cover as a member of the Maquis.

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  • MimicJar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Chakotay: Welcome to the Maquis Resistance, are you spy?

    Tuvok: That would be logical.

    And the show is over before it begins.

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• PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Londo: I do not lie when I say this could have been a major embarrassment to all concerned.

  Sheridan: Oh, I’m sure ambassador. You don’t lie, the Minbari don’t lie, no one around here…

  Londo: Who said the Minbari don’t lie?

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• EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lying is practically all the Vulcans do according to Enterprise.

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  • TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We’d never build a spy outpost underneath our holiest monastery!

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    • DmMacniel@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      you see it was only our second holiest monastery. And that spy outpost was first.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “We Vulcans are incapable of lying… about everything but that stuff.”

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• Infynis@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  All Vulcans know how to do is be bisexual, eat hot chip, and lie.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t understand why people assume Vulcan’s and Data can’t lie because they don’t have emotions.

  You don’t need feelings to lie.

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  • Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t understand why people assume Vulcans don’t have emotions. Their emotions are stronger than those of any human.

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    • KingJalopy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Which is why they work so hard to keep them in check. If only we could take a note from that.

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  • constantokra@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They’re largely autisticly coded, and we don’t generally lie, to the extent that it causes us problems. So I’d guess people are picking up on the coding.

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• ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s known on earth as politics

  Where you bend the truth, modify explanations, omit certain facts, exclude details, interpret data, make your own calculations or highlight known unknowns as well as unknown ones. Then you talk in great detail about everything without ever passing along any new information … it’s a highly developed skill.

  But in everything you do … you never lie, you never tell an untruth … you just use logic and reason and stating certain truths while omitting others to make the other person believe what you want them to believe.

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• pedz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Also true for Minbari.

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