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Shimitar@downonthestreet.euAgree. I went directly with Jellyfin because I joined late the party, but never regret it.
So can’t comment on Plex, because I never used it. But I see the news and see the enshittified path it’s going on with Plex
I understand that they need revenue, specially if they actually provide the bandwidth to let you access your media from outside home. I also understand why people is mad, but I guess convenience come with a price, of you don’t want to pay for it, there are alternatives I don’t see anything bad in switching to jellyfin.
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fpslem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This article doesn’t mention the limitations of remote access for Jellyfin, which requires some tricks like reverse proxy or Tailscale. I think Jellyfin is a great option if you only watch/listen on your home network, but if anyone wants to replicate the remote access capabilities of Plex, I typically warn them they are going to have to roll their sleeves up.
You’re right, I missed that.
I personally use a reverse proxy and Wireguard setup to access remotely.
ripcord@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not something that unfortunately works as easily for me to connect my ailing mom’s TV to, and do NOT want to manage the reverse proxy + cert + etc setup for a number of reasons
skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Tailscale truly could not be easier/simpler.
hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Not for all clients, like Roku for example.
Yes the solution is different hardware, like a Google TV, older firestick, raspAP, or flash openwrt on a router. But that’s no longer plug and play and may have other caveats. Besides costing money.
No shade, it’s just not QUITE that simple every time.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Repectfully, I think you’re wrong.
Making an account and giving it to uncle fred with a website address is a LOT easier than telling him to install an app on his phone/computer, inviting him via email, then trying to explain to him how to turn it on and off and telling him not to mess with the settings and route all his traffic through my home network.
That is still one spot where plex holds an edge.
lostbit@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Don’t selfhost if you think a reverse proxy is tricky.
Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
You shouldn’t even have Jellyfin on a reverse proxy, because it shouldn’t be externally available. There are several known security vulnerabilities (all marked as “closed” due to inactivity on git) that the devs have said will likely never be patched. Because patching them requires moving away from the Emby fork that the entire project is built on.
It should only be externally available via a private VPN. And that alone excludes a lot of “I want to share my library with friends/family” scenarios, because step 0 will be getting their devices connected to your VPN.
At the very least, set up some form of group access/username+PW directly on your reverse proxy as a secondary security measure. Because if you can reach the JF landing page, you can exploit those vulnerabilities without needing a valid JF login. So you should configure your reverse proxy to act as a gatekeeper, and ensure attackers can’t even reach JF at all without having a valid login to your reverse proxy. But this will break most JF apps, (except for browsers) because they likely won’t have any way to give an initial user+pass to the reverse proxy before they hit the JF server.
Flatfire@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That seems like a rather arrogant tone to take. Reverse proxies are complicated. Easy to set up, but challenging to configure depending on what your needs are. Not everyone wants a homelab.
Everyone’s journey starts somewhere and sometimes people’s needs just don’t extend beyond the easier choices available.
Evotech@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just fucking yeet it online
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
expected advice from typical JF users.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How does Plex get around that? I’ve only ever used jellyfin.
blueduck@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Plex operates TURN servers
matron1049@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
A reverse proxy is a trick? That’s like standard practice for web servers.
szszl@szmer.info 2 weeks ago
There are literaly zero limitations by Jellyfin to remotely access your media. You are free to access your instance in any way you want. Fuck plex
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The next time there’s a zero day in one of their packages you get pwned because their login doesn’t protect their ‘internal’ endpoints.
Keep that thing wrapped up or you will eventually regret it.
mundane@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Can’t you just setup a dyndns and port forwarding?
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, and if that falls within your risk tolerance it’s rather easy to set up.
Most of the people in the discussion here don’t want to open a port to the internet.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
There is a third option, the program that Jellyfin was originally forked from back in 2018, Emby.
Sort of the middle child between the two. Nearly identically to Jellyfin for obvious reasons, several third party apps for Jellyfin work with it as well like Jellyseer, it has apps for nearly every device, and easy external connections via their servers like Plex does.
They do however have a premium subscription system like Plex to support things like those servers. It’s not as expensive as Plex, even before the recent rate hike, but it is there and some stuff is locked behind that premium license.
Mondez@lemdro.id 3 weeks ago
So all the bad things of both, still a proprietary product that you can funnel your cotent through servers you don’t control while simultaneously not being plex.
WormFood@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I can’t recommend emby because their business practices are pretty scummy. After accepting open source contributions for years, they went closed-source in 2018 and took all those contributions with them (they had a CLA). The very next update, they added hardware acceleration and locked it behind a paywall. They had a pretty big ‘security incident’ a few years ago, which probably would have been averted if they were still open source, as users in the community flagged it as an issue long before the devs took action.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
That’s why I’m running both. I use jellyfin, everyone else uses Plex 🤣
jumponboard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you can spin up a podman container, you can use a caddyfile. Hell, if you can nano, you can set uo a caddyfile.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Honestly for video I agree, for audio, it’s just me and only in my house or phone so tailscale is fine. If my friends really want audio, they can pay streaming for it.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
But Jellyfin! It solves all your problems, you don’t have to pay for it (because fuck paying for software of any type even if it provides you some value), and did I mention Jellyfin‽
Why aren’t you using it yet? Are you a plex sympathizer? Get outta here with that!
What?
I don’t care if you have a good use case for using plex / Emby / Kodi / VLC / WMC / etc; you will assimilate and use Jellyifn!
JELLYFIN!!!11!1!1!1!1!. /s