What's the worst that could happen?

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• xylogx@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  And he was so horrified at the results that he created the doctrine of civilian control of nuclear weapons.

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “The buck stops here”

    Truman had many faults, flaws, and mistakes. But he still ranks as one of our best presidents.

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• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Well look what they were doing to POW’s or how they surprise attacked us first.

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s not a justification.

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  • flandish@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    so war crimes allow further crimes? we had no actual need to nuke them. let alone civilians. let alone twice. they were already going toward a surrender. but hey he knew the cold was was next, so to speak, so we might as well vaporize a few civilians to show russia we’re capable?

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    • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      1. The targets were chosen for their military value.

      2. Internal US discussions at the time show that the US did not believe Japan was heading towards a surrender, and projected immense casualties from either of the other two options (invasion, blockade) to end the war. For that matter, Japan was not ‘going toward a surrender’ except insofar as their ‘surrender’ offers included “We keep our brutal colonial empire, otherwise we will fight to the end.” Japan was training fucking schoolchildren to become suicide bombers in preparation for a US invasion at that time. That’s not ‘going toward a surrender’.

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• spacegoat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If I see a cross in your username, your opinion goes straight in the trash

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “A man in Austria was rejected from art school, one thing led to another, and America dropped two nuclear weapons on the sovereign nation of Japan.” - Brian Regan

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  • iocase@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    And you can thank those two portable suns for giving us anime and hentai

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    • natecox@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The big yellow one is the sun.

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• OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Nah … I’ve met random small business owners from the Midwest. And they are not the kind of people you want having unquestionable authority.

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• Starik@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Conservatives have no respect for expertise.

  It’s easy to assume something you have no clue about must be easy and anyone could do it. If you’re dumb and lack imagination, that is. I’d like to nominate a random farmer from Iowa to pilot Harrison Smith’s next plane ride.

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• Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m waiting for the downside?

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Probably the civilian deaths.

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    • Nautalax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There were way more civilian deaths from the war continuing than from the use of the atom bombs that helped convince the Japanese government to throw in the towel (aside from the parts of it that stubbornly attempted a failed coup to keep the war going, anyway). The Japanese occupation at the time of the atom bombing stretched from eastern China out to Indonesia and was quite brutal to say the least with many millions of civilians killed.

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    • protist@retrofed.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah it seems pretty clear civilian deaths were coming regardless, whether through sustained aerial assault and ground invasion or two nukes. Which choice was less bad is something we can only speculate about

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  • UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Do you mean of putting one guy in power or nuking Japan?

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• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Pick me! Pick Me! I have ideas.

  not very good ones, I’m afraid, but I can at least make sure Trump can’t hurt any more kids.

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  • WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Keeping Trump from harming kids is a very good idea, so you’ve contradicted yourself already - like a true politician!

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So you want to see Trump in prison, but strapped to a cam show where tips cause various electrodes to, you know, zap him?

      Electrodes in very awkward places?

      Tips go to helping all the people he hates most, of course.

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  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Today we’ll be debating the moral calculus of President FuglyDuck’s initiative to explode all children.

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    • vrek@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I mean I know where I stand I on that but I’m willing to listen to arguments why we shouldn’t explode all children…

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    • janus2@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      oh shit the extreme environmentalists are on their side already

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• PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There were, unfortunately, much worse outcomes than that which were possible.

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