Submitted 7 months ago by TurboLag@lemmings.world to fediverse@lemmy.world
In another thread, I read a user’s comment about how the lemmy experience has got progressively worse over the past few months, with a lot more trash content making it to their front page.
Is this your experience? How was lemmy when you joined and how do you think it’s changed?
Its my first day here. I’m having a good time. Thanks for asking.
Thanks. Feels good to be here. I know some people have mixed experiences but it really is neat seeing the fediverse come to life.
Being able to browse other federated sites from one app is cool as fuck too.
Welcome to the party!
Welcome!
I decided to create a few threads after a few months hiatus and was surprised by the levels of engagement. I think the audience is hungry for content and that more people need to take the plunge and start threads.
With that said, going to /all instead of /subscribed is largely frustrating since the most frequent posts are just memes and inside jokes
The trick is to block all meme communities
A big part of this is the ranking algorithm. It doesn’t scale based on the size of the community so the large meme communities pretty much exclusively rise to the top. There’s a fix in the works I believe but I’m not sure where on the roadmap it is.
Scaled sort will be in 0.19.0, so probably in the next month, maybe 2 months
It’s hard to avoid the US politics. Worse than reddit in that regard, it is giving me flashbacks to 2008 Digg where every second thing on the front page was about Obama and Ron Paul.
I’m having no issues avoiding American politics. When I started Lemmy I just used all and blocked any communities that put out stuff I didn’t want to see, politics, furry porn etc now my all feed is pretty well curated, my experience with 12 years on Reddit was not the same I couldn’t avoid the American politics, as people posted them in subs where they had no business being.
I had to blacklist words like “trump” on reddit, it was too much.
Well thats gonna be the case for as long as lemmy is mostly populated by renegade reddit users, no? Gotta have a larger userbase to provide a more varied degree of content
Yeah for sure, we have a lot of growing ahead of us before Lemmy truly establishes its own culture.
I would say that my personal experience has been that there is a significantly higher proportion of non-American Lemmings, as opposed to redditors. Like if reddit is 50% American, my feeling is that Lemmy is closer to 30% American. You can even tell when the Europeans wake up and are active, because they comprise such a large portion of the userbase.
It’s hard for me to assess if that is reflected in the political content, because I always mostly ignored communities of that type, both on reddit and here.
I find it’s kind of a mixed bag. A bunch of communities I joined a few months ago are now just bot posts and boring but a bunch of newer communities I’ve joined are way better than reddit was.
Gotten better and better over time.
I’ve learned to always have a backup account on another instance and that’s decreased my downtime to almost zero.
I prefer the content here to Reddit, as Reddit seems to just be clickbait these days.
My favorite thing here is the community. Much less likely to encounter an asshole and even when people disagree, they seem to argue in good faith. Love the Lemmy/knib community feel.
man I loved Ragnarok Online lol, me and my friend spent a lot of time in that game, I don’t even know what made it so good I guess just the vibes
Always enjoy meeting another fan! We really should get a community together here on Lemmy. There’s dozens of us! Dozens!
Real talk: Original iRO were some of the best gaming times of my life. I loved the grind.
I haven’t seen the experience getting worse. I am amazed by the amount of shitposting subs in the all feed but it’s not a lot of effort to scroll past them.
One thing i have noticed is that folks have lost their welcoming demeanor from the initial migration and a lot more argumentative or fringe communities are highly ranked on the all feed. And users who comment something that isn’t 100% behind the prevailing belief on Lemmy will get piled on the same as Reddit. I was hoping that Lemmy would be more open to all sorts of discourse but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
FuckCars or antiwork don’t bother me, but they aren’t the kind of topics that someone who is coming from a middle of the road perspective are going to appreciate. Even more so for the full on communist communities on Lemmy.ml or others.
I think these communities deserve their voice and don’t have a problem with them hitting the all feed, I just wish they were a little less aggressive with labeling other people as trolls and downvoting or insulting them when on other instances and communities
It was more open 4 months ago before all the weirdos joined and decided to downvote everyone who says something that upsets them. And there is A LOT that upsets these people. Anything except memes.
I’ve seen fewer and fewer commies and more people making fun of commies, so it seems like it’s headed the right direction
A lot more weird people now. I already miss the initial experience of a small crowd of tech people. Now it’s mostly memes, because you can’t have a good discussion on Lemmy without someone getting their perception bubble popped. I’ve been called a racist, a hater, homophobe, etc.
So of course all discussions are like “oh nice meme”.
If you’re being called racist or homophobic by multiple people multiple times…you might be.
Wow, I hope you don’t live by that advice yourself. People on social media type all kinds of crazy things. :)
Or it’s people trying to muddy the water to both-sides something. I’ve been noticing an uptick of posts from the far-right crowd creeping out of the woodwork recently, and they’re all up in arms about people saying US Conservatives are intolerant.
Being told not to be an asshole to others isn’t intolerance. It is the intolerance of intolerance - which is a necessary part of a tolerant society.
See: The Paradox of Intolerance (which the far right nuts call the new Mein Kamp. Gross).
Interestingly I’ve had quite a few negative bombed comments on Lemmy that were nothing burgers saying really plain stuff.
Weirdly I’ve had the complete opposite experience on the other platform. Comments that were also nothing burgers saying really plain stuff too.
It’s great. It’s fun to try to grow communities.
I even like finding similar communities being scattered around the fediverse. Not being centrally owned by anyone (including a single instance) is what makes this different from reddit.
Communities are going quiet.
Bots posting links to AI spam websites are taking the place of the old posters & commenters.
Moderation is non-existent, and spam sits unchecked in /c’s like mildlyinteresting.
Mostly stable. A few communities go strong, many more remain silent.
Bots though. There are a bunch of bots merely reposting links to other platforms like reddit, and it’s so annoying. Their posts sit at +0 votes, 0 comments, and clutter communities and All feed. I’m mostly talking about lemmit.online/u/bot and zerobytes.monster/u/bOt. If anyone knows for what they are good, if anyone likes something about their existence, please enlighten me. From my point of view, they’re like a (maybe) opt-out newsletter for which you were never asked if you want to receive it. And apparently people are working to make more bots and create more bot instances to mirror more non-interactive reddit posts into Lemmy. I think that’s a terrible development for existing users, and severely off-putting for newcomers.
I also learned over the past months how tankies can be bending the truth and be quick with their banhammer. It’s a bit eerie to see them create alternate realities shielded from outside opinions, how all that works technically with de-/federation, various versions of comment sections, and so on.
The only thing I like the lemmit bot for is to aggregate some news links for me, as well as random TIL. Any of the lemmit bot communities that just link to reddit are an absolute waste of my time, and I block them. But I honestly don’t see them too much
I wish I could upvote tits twice
Think your autocorrect has stitched you up there mate!
It’s been alright. I’m still having issue with the communities I want to follow, specifically certain games or franchises, either not having enough people posting or communities just not existing.
I still stand by my decision to not use Reddit unless I absolutely have to for troubleshooting issues, but Lemmy and Kbin are lonely platforms still and that hasn’t changed since I’ve joined
People here annoy me here more and more with time, especially when it comes to reddit, where every post shitting on reddit is massively upvoted. There is nothing to read aside maybe c/all where active have something new maybe every day, and hot is filled to the brim with the same posts since there is no crossposting as far as I know. It feels to me that people are forcing themselves to like Lemmy cause for no other reason other than they hate reddit so much more. Will that stop me from browsing it? Not yet, but I have to browse reddit for stuff I care more about.
Crossposting does exist on Lemmy.
I don't use Lemmy, but rather Kbin. I guess I have some nitpicks about the fundamentals of the fediverse itself. Particularly, the fact that 10 people could create a...subfeddit...for a certain subject, like apples@lemmy.world, apples@lemmy.whatever.midwest, apples@shit.just.works, etc. and that causes content to become decentralized and scattered. Otherwise, I like what's happening here, and I'm definitely happy not be licking Spezs' boot.
Feature, not a bug.
Didn’t say it was a bug, it’s just not an ideal aspect of the platform, and it could be a deterrent for some users.
It comes in waves. Whenever I notice the comment quality getting bad on the front page, I assume reddit fucked up again. Things usually stabilizes in 1-2 weeks though.
It’s been mixed for me.
Negatives: rise in bot reposts. Solution: block the individual bot accounts. Works fine. Cut spam on my feeds by a third easily.
Positives: more engagements on posts. More comments, more viewpoints. I think this is great.
Mines gotten better, but that’s because I’ve become active in communities like !risa@startrek.website which are full of awesome people. Without them it would’ve probably still got better, but they’ve made it way better
A bit more active than when I made my account.
The only real changes I see are that the population seems to be slowly rising.
More active niche communities popping up here and there! The strength and number of niche communities still don’t match those of niche communities on Reddit, but I take it as a good sign of healthy growth.
It’s just slightly annoying to have to check in every once in a while for niche communities that sprung up since the last time I checked
Mobile apps are significantly better than they were at the start of the reddit migration, to the point connect has replaced Boost for me even though boost finally caught up to the rest of the class
So better in general I guess
Lemmy seemed to me to be a lot more empty when I joined. I’ve enjoyed it recently. It’s seemed much more lively and with better content. It feels like the old days of browsing Reddit for 8 hours a day.
I felt like that 4 months ago here. :)
classic Open Source software problem.
“Can we have one big community where we work together?”
“NO, FUCK YOU, GOING TO GO MAKE MY OWN FORK/INSTANCE, WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS!”
repeat ad nauseam until the population is stretched so thin as to be beyond the breaking point.
If it’s all federated, than making your own instance doesn’t take you out of the community, you’re just in charge of your own little part of the community.
It was pretty dead when I first joined in the middle of June. Instances and communities have slowly started to fill and comment sections are getting more active.
Experience definitely got better once more third party apps got on board. There is a great selection out there with different tastes to suit a lot of users.
the bots and down-vote brigades are outta control
I haven’t been here long, but content quantity and quality seem to be improving, along with user interactions.
It feels about the same, aside from the week or two hexbear was around.
Hexbear is blocked in lemm.ee?
They’re not, but they seem to have fucked off for the most part.
I stopped using my lemmy instance for the most part and moved back to my lotide instance.
There was some sort of bad upgrade that killed my lemmy instance, and when I got back incoming federation was ok but outgoing wasn't.
Discovered that I need to rate limit federation or it pwns both lemmy and lotide.
I unsubbed from a lot of communities that seemed like they couldn't help from constantly bringing politics into stuff, leaving my feed a lot quieter. I'm sure you hate candidate X, but this is a knitting community...
I do feel like engagement and participation have dropped off from the Rexit peak. However, as the pace has slowed the quality of the posts and comments have stayed strong or even gotten better.
I’m looking forward to being able to block whole instances to get a lot of the bot-generated chaff out of my All feed. Stuff like sports scores and Hacker News reposts.
There is more interaction, but also a lot more crazy far-right assholes the past few weeks at least (in my experience).
On kbin myself, but the amount of spam and bot posts is off-putting. It's worse if I'm following the same community on multiple instances. I'll have the same exact spam post show up multiple times in my feed because it was posted on multiple instances. There seems to be little in the way of moderation. Still browse here and appreciate it but I hope it improves in the future.
Also experiencing a bug where some long posts or comments will not expand making them unreadable.
rikudou@lemmings.world 7 months ago
It’s gotten better. A lot. More people means more content. Sure, I have to curate it a bit, but overall it’s better.
QuantumEyetanglement@lemdro.id 7 months ago
Completely agreed! Communities are getting stronger, consolidating repeats across instances, and providing helpful comments.
The other day I was going to post a link in a community, and then checked to see- it had already been posted! Brought a tear to my eye 🥹
Pea666@feddit.nl 7 months ago
Content is improving but the apps well! I’m currently using Voyager (wefwef) and it’s a lot better than when I started using it (around the great Reddit exodus).
The dev said they’d be scaling down support but it’s fine for now and even if it starts lagging behind for some reason there’s a couple of great alternatives as well (Avelon works very well for example).