Can you melt eggs? Quora’s AI says “yes,” and Google is sharing the result

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• Brimos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Speed running our way to “electrolytes, it’s what plants crave!” I see … if you know, you know.

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  • Dippy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho did seem more entertaining at least then the circus we’ve had for the last few years. At least we can look forward to that?

    Plus Ow! My balls! Does seem like some good tv.

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    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He was a great president. Saw a problem, admitted his ignorance to it, and hired the smartest person he could find to fix it.

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• Neato@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You can melt anything. An egg will burn first. Then you will get some type of rendered carbon ash. Which will, eventually, melt and/or vaporize with enough heat.

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  • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Melting is a physical process that changes the form and aggregation state of a thing, but it still remains that thing. Melted gold is still gold. Burning on the other hand is a chemical process that leads to new “things”. The egg isn’t longer an egg.

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    • Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re comparing an element to a hyper complex concept (not even a structure).

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  • Kepabar@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I would argue that it’s no longer ‘egg’ once it’s carbon ash and therefore never melted before it’s existence ended.

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    • 3ntranced@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Which came first, the egg or the time dilation of carbon atoms?

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  • snaggen@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, for eggs, that are carbon based, you will in fact have problems since carbon doesn’t have a liquid state at regular atmospheric pressure. I guess you can add pressure, but is that really what we mean when asking a question if something melt?

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If I simply ask “can eggs melt” and the answer is complicated but still yes, I would hope it to explain the complications and not just say yes. But I mean, if I just wanted a yes or no answer, and it’s technically correct, I’m cool with that.

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  • Zeth0s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Eggs are primarily comprised of colloidal suspension.

    Colloids cannot melt, as they are not in a solid phase

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    • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Only the yolk.

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  • diviledabit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But then you’re melting carbon ash and not eggs.

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  • troyunrau@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Which raises an interesting question: what if you cooked it in a zero oxygen environment (say argon, nitrogen, or carbon dioxide… basically welding gases because they’re mostly inert). I can’t burn in that context, so does it melt? Or do you drive off all the volatiles and are just left with carbon anyway?

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    • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you heat carbon based stuff without oxygen a process called pyrolysis happens. It separates the components into their molecules and molecules into smaller molecules with less weight. During this process you can gain different materials.

      Not sure what kind of products are possible with the pyrolysis of egg + welding gases though lol

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    • TheInternetIsForLargeShrimp@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Note to self: try this.

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  • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In an inert atmosphere under enough pressure pretty much anything can melt without burning.

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    • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is the correct answer. In a vaccum wood won’t burn for instance. It will melt, and even sublimate.

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  • BlueBockser@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    An egg is already liquid, so it can’t be molten. It’s the same way you can’t melt water.

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• expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Quora

  well, there is the problem

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  • Moc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Festering out of misinformation it is. And yes, they’ll ban you for calling it out or correcting the record.

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    • vox@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      i tried to deliberately get a ban there after they refused to delete my account ant i just couldn’t

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• vox@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  well it’s referencing this article now

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  • WhiteHawk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Somebody needs to write an article about that article that states the opposite

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• nomecks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Take frozen egg. Melt. Repeat as needed.

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  • TheYear2525@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thawing isn’t always melting.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Doesn’t everything technically have a melting point?

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  • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No, carbon, among lot’s of materials, gors directly into sublimation stage. It has no liquid form.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Even carbon can be a liquid in extreme conditions.

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  • Fisk400@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes but we generally don’t want AI to answer questions like evil genies.

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      AI was gifted to us as a wish granted by a Monkey’s Paw. It can answer all of life’s questions… but incorrectly.

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    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Honestly the best analogy for AI I’ve seen.

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  • astropenguin5@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yep, also id argue eggs are ‘melted’ by default, but if you froze and the reheated the egg it would then melt.

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• Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Even when Quora isn't being ruined with AI, it's flooded with Neo-Nazis that are self-proclaimed historians.

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  • Chunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wtf kind of quora are you reading to find neo Nazi shit? I just find people shilling crypto and bad tech advice.

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    • Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I read a lot of world war two history, so search engines naturally shove such parts of Quora at me. Some are more subtle about being Neo-Nazis, but are defintely pushing the agenda.

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• noodlejetski@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  can’t wait till more LLMs and content generators get trained on this garbage data and repeat it all over the internet ad inifinitum.

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  • Chocrates@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Truly the best future.

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• orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Had a friend open a conversation line by referencing something on Quora and I immediately tuned out. Quora is a wealth of nonsense.

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  • olympicyes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When my daughter was 7 or 8 years old, I caught her answering questions on quora on topics that she knew nothing about. Something to keep in mind.

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    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      She’s probably more knowledgeable than their average user.

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• ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Egg shells melt at 825°C. Saved you a click.

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  • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So it’s true, you can melt eggs

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    • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, only the shells.

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• Cornpop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s right though. www.science.org.au/…/how-and-why-unboil-egg

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  • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Step 2: Add some water and urea

    No thanks

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    • rez_doggie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bear Grylls hates you rn

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    • synae@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Damn, why didn’t I think of that

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• Robaque@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• korok@possumpat.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I do sometimes “provide feedback” on terrible featured snippets, but goddamn does it feel like shouting into a void.

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  • diviledabit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ublacklist Firefox plugin.

    Add quota Add pinterest

    Make the internet a little less shit

    You can find some blacklist subs on GitHub too if you want to blanket filter out a lot of the other shit (like alternative.to and other bulk targeted result sites)

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• lloram239@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You can freeze an egg and you can melting it again by putting it in a stove or microwave or just anything with temps above 0° C. Context matters and that human seems to blindly assume one specific context.

  It’s kind of ridiculous how we went from AI being mostly scifi and DeepDream, to every journalist expecting that AI has to be 100% correct all the time and be able to answer all the questions correctly. Of course AI will make mistakes when it was trained on incorrect data, that happens, that’s what humans do all the time. AI stands for artificial intelligence, not magic.

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  • Asudox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That human, you say? Are you perhaps also another AI?

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• WhiteHawk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They’ll be taking over the world any day now, just you wait

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Inb4 it’s 47d hyperchess to dumb down humans even more

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• CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mean at sufficient temperature that is possible, you can melt Carbon stuff.

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• MargotRobbie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Who knew the Abominable Intelligence is actually really, really dumb.

  From my tests LLMs are only good at writing boring work emails, you should pretty much never trust any factual information they generate without verification.

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  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They’re amazing for so many things, coding and discovery especially - yes you need to verify answers but you were supposed to do that with Wikipedia and everything else anyway.

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• BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So it’s just like regular Quota then.

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