USB-C worldwide? That surprises me, I thought it’d just be the EU. I wonder what the catch will be 🤔
Apple Announces iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus With USB-C Port, Dynamic Island, Frosted Glass Design
Submitted 1 year ago by tst123@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/09/12/apple-announces-iphone-15-and-15-plus/
Comments
yhvr@lemm.ee 1 year ago
krayj@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
They must have done a cost/benefit analysis and came to the obvious conclusion that having to build multiple variants would be more costly than the profit they’d have earned by continuing to gouge all the non-EU consumers on proprietary cables and junk.
The world owes the EU a debt of gratitude for forcing apple compliance on this one.
alvvayson@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Next step: EU forces RCS compatibility
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I two ports would also hurt the accessory market. American phones would likely miss out on a lot of toys.
kautau@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah they definitely made empty threats until they just succumbed. Their iPads are USB-C, their laptops are packed with USB-C ports. It’s obvious that, as one of the wealthiest companies in the world it’s not a problem to switch their hardware
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
It still supports usb2 data rates, reportedly.
I’m ok with that, but if you have to move lots of data that’s a bummer.
Untitled_Pribor@kbin.social 1 year ago
You get usb 3 speeds on iPhone 15 pro. Still it’s ridiculous that you don’t get usb 3 on the base model
CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Now if only the cost of the device reflected it’s severely outdated hardware.
jonne@infosec.pub 1 year ago
I don’t think too many people use the USB port on their phone for data transfer, other than flashing phones and debugging stuff.
Amcro@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I guess most people didn’t watch apple event. Pro models have new A17 cpu with usb 3 controller inside, while regular iPhone 15 has last years Pro model A16 cpu (Apple does that with every new generation) which didn’t have usb 3 controller since lightning is still usb 2. iPads have support for usb 3 because they have separate usb 3 controller (not inside cpu because more space) so claiming that iPads have it for years is true but for different reason. So logically it would make sense that iPhone 16 base models will have A17 cpu with usb 3 controller.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s cheaper to manufacture one device for the whole world. Moreover, states like California are probably going to also force manufacturers to use USB C. And more than 1 in 10 Americans lives in CA.
Aux@lemmy.world 1 year ago
While it might be cheaper, it’s rarely possible. Different countries have different frequencies and other stuff, so you still need to make different SKUs for different markets.
June@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I just don’t understand this confusion. There really isn’t been a question of whether or not they were moving to USB-C for at least 6 months. The only question was whether it would be thunder bolt or not, and it isn’t. The narrative was always that they’d keep lightning for 10 years and then move to something new, Schiller even called it “a modern connector for the next decade” when it was announced, and at the time it was better than anything else on the market.
Now USB-C is the standard and superior, and it’s cheaper to bring the iPhone in line with that standard than to keep lightning or develop a new port/connector. As soon as the iPads went USB-C it was a foregone conclusion that the iPhone would follow suit, and anyone who was paying attention should have known it would happen this year, 10 years after lightning was introduced as a 10 year plan.
yhvr@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I don’t keep a super close eye on Apple’s recent products. I don’t really care enough to be in the know about what they might do next, I just hear about what comes out as it comes out and move on with my life. I also wasn’t aware that there was a 10 year plan because I was too young to care when it was announced. Sorry for the confusion :(
weew@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Wow Apple just INVENTED the USB-C port! It has so many innovations over the tired and old Lightning port. In preparation for this massive unveiling Apple has been secretly working with 51835947 different third party companies to create a lush USB-C accessory ecosystem!
pathos@kbin.social 1 year ago
c o u r a g e
mean_bean279@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Apple was one of the first to go all USB-C on any computer. Then they got hit with a massive wave of people complaining that they didn’t have any supported equipment and that this just forced Apple owners to buy expensive new equipment at a time when almost nothing out there had USB-C. I think about how that PR mess probably impacted their decision to move away from lightening as well. It’s been a long time coming on the phone, but people acting like Apple wasn’t a major player in the USB consortiums push to get type C standardized for everything is always fun.
HellAwaits@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s been a long time coming on the phone, but people acting like Apple wasn’t a major player in the USB consortiums push to get type C standardized for everything is always fun.
Yeah no, no one is acting that way. We’re all well aware of Apple’s USB-C only push on the other devices, we’re referring to the phones. I can’t believe this has to be said.
MxM111@kbin.social 1 year ago
I would not call myself an Apple fun, but I find lighting port easier to connect, especially at night without light. Since I have iphone, I also have many lightning cables for me and my family. So, for me this change is inconvenience, and I would prefer to stay on lightning.
Poggervania@kbin.social 1 year ago
Lightning is more or less the progenitor to USB-C, so the benefits are the same since you can plug in USB-C either way.
This also means you can charge your iPad with the same connector as these phones if you have of the models that came with a USB-C charger.
jeffw@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m confused by this comment. How is lightning better? I cannot think of a single advantage of lightning over USB-C. Is the c port like a few microns wider? That doesn’t seem like it would make it more difficult.
Everything uses C now. I have a lot of lightning cables, but I also have a lot of C cables.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I wish lightning was fast… USB2 speeds are awful when I’m backing up 20k photos hahaha
Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
You might be thinking of the old micro USB where direction mattered. USB-c has been the standard for every other manufacturer for years now, and it’s super easy to plug in without seeing.
mercury@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I’m really pissed that glass backed phones have become the norm. Seemingly they’re more expensive and more breakable! I wish someone would make a metal or plastic backed phone. (Looking at the fairphone…)
LinuxSBC@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Metal doesn’t work with wireless charging. Plastic feels cheaper. Still, many companies are making plastic phones, and I’m sure some are making metal ones as well.
sab@lemmy.world 1 year ago
On the other hand: nothing looks as cheap as a shattered glass back, or having to use a cover because the default surface is too slippery for 1hand use.
webhead@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Does it really matter when you put a case on it anyway? I’d prefer plastic. Glass is stupid and breakable. We shouldn’t be trying to put MORE of it on phones.
rndll@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Qualcomm and the Rezence wireless charging standard had tech that was able to charge through metal backs since 2015. The issue is it’s not compatible with Qi which already cornered the market so no one used it.
Sendbeer@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They’re so fucking slippery too. I can barely use my phone without a case because it tries to slide out of my hand if I attempt to one hand it.
Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Fortunately if you need a replacement it’s now easier to replace the back as it’s not glued on so you could replace it with an aftermarket plastic back.
June@lemm.ee 1 year ago
That’s a big selling point for me on the 15 series. I had the back glass break on my 12 Pro this year and learned after the repair that it’s effectively getting a new phone when it’s ‘repaired’. Took me 2 months to get my eSIM deactivated on the new device for a number of reasons that ultimately ended up being a Verizon issue, but that they blamed on Apple until I got Apple to send me another new device that had the same problem.
The replaceable back glass and USB-C are enough for me to upgrade from my 12 Pro. Now my debate is between the Pro and Pro Max…
JasSmith@kbin.social 1 year ago
I am incredibly underwhelmed.
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 1 year ago
iPhone reveal events have become basically:
a) Offering as new what other brands have offered as standard for years.
b) Offering something new that only works if you buy more Apple.
I have an iPhone, and couldn’t wait for the iOS 17 release so I installed the beta. Underwhelming is the right word, the event has no right to be named “wonderlust”.
dustyData@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So, Apple just announced a Samsung phone that has existed for years already?
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 year ago
Did they? I didn’t see any bloatware and carrier installed applications announced though?
mplewis@lemmy.globe.pub 1 year ago
Yeah, the mythical Samsung phone that still gets six years of manufacturer OS updates
weedazz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Samsung phone with iMessage*
heero_youi@lemm.ee 1 year ago
fanboys have come to wage war.
= Anyone who disagrees with me must be a fanboy!
dumdum666@kbin.social 1 year ago
Apple has stopped being innovative for years now - they are always serving a slightly upgraded and much more expensive version of their phones each year… and people keep paying those abhorrent prices. I honestly do not understand why.
Android is not better since they try to copy Apple pricewise AND you can enjoy being simultaneously exploited by the phones manufacturer AND Google.
Wonderful times.
June@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Much more expensive? They’re the same price they’ve been for the last 5 generations.
And let’s be frank, no one is really innovating right now. Every phone is a brick, and some fold. But nothing about how we interact with our phones has significantly changed in at least 5 years. And even the change from fingerprint as the primary biometric to face is relatively small.
Introducing double tap to the Watch is the most significant innovation in a flagship device that I’ve seen in a hot minute. But phones are reaching their limit for ways to interact due to technological limitations. Hell, I’m not even seeing sci-fi showing real imaginative ways to interact with tech anymore, just different form factors for existing technology. What else is there to really do to change how we interact with our devices at this point?
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
If someone seriously innovated and made something different, it would flop because people would be like “EHHH IT’S NOT WHAT I’M USED TO”
I’m posting this from my five-year-old iPhone that works awesome also lawl, the only reason I’m upgrading now is for more storage space. You’re also right about the price… this isn’t much more at all than my 5yo phone was. This phone works great, but people complaining about innovation also… what I’m getting by finally deciding to upgrade:
Much faster processor
120hz fuck yeah
USB-C (wouldn’t care if the old cables weren’t fucking USB2 speeds lawl. This is actually a huge upgrade)
Always-on display (neat I guess)
More battery (love it, but my five year old phone still lasts all day)
SO MANY CAMERAS (I actually love this)
It unlocks via face when I wear a mask (I still do that thing, so that’s cool)
SPACE (so much space for flacs)
There’s probably more shit, but when I really think about it… this XS Maxxx is totally fine and would be great another year or two, but that’s a lotta upgrades.
baruchin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wouldn’t be an Apple IO change without an overpriced dongle. Some things never change.
Eggyhead@artemis.camp 1 year ago
Why would anyone want to buy a USB C to lightning dongle at this point? They can just buy a cheap USB C cable now.
lustrum@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I kinda see the reason why. What if you have lightning headphones or a lightning flir camera. Cheaper to get a dongle.
LurkNoMore@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No replaceable battery though?
Resol@lemmy.world 1 year ago
iPhone 5C revamped for the modern era:
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The main difference being, the iPhone 5c colors were nice.
Resol@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Agreed
from_the_black_lagoon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Frosted glass seems so 90s, but replace glass with plastic
SilenceInTheVoid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Personally I would prefer a nice piece of teak panelling
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Those colors are pretty rough. These look like they should come in an Easter basket.