Submitted 8 months ago by merridew@feddit.uk to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66718165
There will be exemptions for legitimate uses of nitrous oxide, for example in medical or catering industries. The gas is commonly used as a painkiller and for producing whipped cream in cooking.
Yaaaay another black market. Just what the government needs, gotta keep the black budget funded.
Who wouldnt want criminals to have a Monopoly on drug trade?
Think kids are going to bother getting NOx once it’s illegal? If you’re going to be a criminal anyway why not go for some proper drugs? This law will probably stop some and push others onto harder stuff.
A no2 black market would be as widespread as a diethel ether one. As in non-existent. Folks will just inhale VOCs.
I won’t miss seeing those cannisters littered around.
So why not make it legitimate with a deposit scheme?
And even better, also legalise drugs like weed which these are being used as a legal substitute for?
It’s a lot of effort to built up such a deposit system
Won’t miss it because they’ll continue to be littered around?
So…
You’ll still be able to buy it “for whip cream”…
It’s just now cops will be able to arrest you for it if you have it now.
That’s not exactly a ban, and it’s not going to make it any harder to obtain.
So in other words it isn’t even necessarily something they can convict for. Strawberries and whipped cream at the park anyone?
You’re going to at least have to be seeing a mate that owns the equipment to use it for cream at the park. If you just stick it in a pot and let rip, you’re going to spray non-whipped cream everywhere, which I bet would mean a court wouldn’t consider it reasonable doubt.
Sounds like a new way to criminalize young people. Not from UK, can this be used to disenfranchise people?
Of course our government lives disenfranchising young people, they don’t vote conservative.
Unless you’re in prison or you were convicted of some kind of voter fraud, you can vote
You can vote but good luck finding a job or passing a background check lol
Thx
“There will be exemptions for legitimate uses of nitrous oxide” Legitimate just means legal so this sentence is saying it will be legal to use it in a legal way… Pretty stupid
No, but it will be illegal to use it illegally.
Yeah, what's so hard to understand here, duh!
Cannabis is being legalised across America and in Germany. Meanwhile Tories are trying to expand the failed war in drugs
I hate Cruella Braverman.
I feel like it’s actually kind of already an illicit substance and therefore illegal.
So at this point they’re just making laws to make things that are already illegal more illegal but it doesn’t matter because none of them are enforced anyway.
You can go online and buy as much laughing gas as you want for your whipping cream needs. Sounds like they are banning that at the end of the year.
Will they even still be in power at the end of the year? I think they’re just saying this for the sake of saying something.
Who’s laughing now?
So long patisserie chefs
Protip: you can buy NO2 really cheap on Amazon.
I just it for my nitro cold brew. Am I gonna have to break laws just to continue drinking my own nitro cold brew?
Don’t you want N2? Nitrogen? Not N2O (nitrous oxide)?
Fun and abundant drug with minimal long or short term health consequences: exists
Terf Island: oi bruv, you got a loiscense for that squirty cream product? you can’t ave that mate, you might en up feelin good without gettin proper consent from the king.
Wrong angle I think, this is just to punish teens for not having been in dunkirk like the boomers
The boomers weren't in Dunkirk either.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The government’s decision to make possession a crime goes against recommendations from the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, which advised against new laws to ban nitrous oxide.
Announcing the law change on Tuesday, Home Secretary Suella Braverman said people in the UK were “fed up with yobs abusing drugs in public spaces and leaving behind a disgraceful mess for others to clean up”.
The government’s crime and policing minister Chris Philp said: "There is no question that abusing laughing gas is dangerous to people’s health and it is paramount we take decisive action before the situation gets worse.
Prof David Nutt, from Imperial College London’s department of medicine, previously said there was around about one death per year in the UK from around one million nitrous oxide users.
Repeated hits of nitrogen dioxide can deplete body levels of an important vitamin called B12, which, in turn, can cause permanent nerve damage.
It can affect both the spinal cord and the nerves in arms and legs, causing loss of feeling, abnormal sensations and muscle weakness or even full paralysis.
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How will this affect airsofters?
Airsoft uses green gas (propane), CO2 or compressed air.
Don’t they use CO2?
Maybe for the guns.
Footballers are going to hate this. It’s an easy way to get high (for fun, not for performance) without being busted on a drug test.
Yeah, that’s why it’s being banned…
Hahaha. But yeah it’s not being banned because of that obviously. Just thought it would be interesting to add.
Genuine No Stupid Question: Doesn’t this gaz Affect like the Nerve System which means that it kills slowly people? Compare to something like Cannabis which temporarily only alters the sense but does not damage the body?
Thank you!
What gas will they use in the foamer?
It says they’ll make exceptions for legitimate uses, I assume that includes making whipped cream. It’ll probably just be much harder to legally get your hands on it unless you run a catering company or restaurant.
CO2 would cause the cream to sour as a result of it’s acidity, and plain nitrogen isn’t soluble enough, so it makes sense that they’d include it as an exception.
Having served time in the cuisine mines, it’s not.
It’ll be interesting to see how they gate access. Can’t send the dishwasher out to get more in the middle of a rush, hes 17. Can’t send the line, shes got charges. Can’t send the server, they’re legally drunk.
How is crying gas legal but laughing gas illegal?
Tear gas is not legal in the UK. Being found in possession of it can lead to a prison sentence of between 6 months and 10 years, and a fine.
Maybe not for you or I, but the police use it.
Is this the same NOS used to give dragsters a boost? Ok, that is illegal on most streets but a legitimate use on certain tracks.
This is about its use as a drug, rather than its use in racing.
Also, I’d imagine racing NOS isn’t as pure as the food-grade NOS people use recreationally
I need Nos. One of these big ones. Actually, make that 2. And Harry, I need it by tonight.
I have no problem with this. Honestly, as others have said, here in Australia, tired of seeing dumped canisters, and it is clear that its a problem which is growing out of control, and its a problem which companies are exploiting for profit.
cruel_excess@lemmy.world 8 months ago
So, according to the article, supplying Nitrous for recreational use is already illegal. If it is such a big problem, what is banning possession going to do other than ruin more lives? It is kind of wild that this is the solution they came up with given the history of drug prohibition worldwide and the fact that UK is one of the originators of harm reduction.
Sigh… making the same mistakes and expecting different results when plenty of research out there shows that treating poverty and depression does more to reduce drug use and other risky/antisocial behaviour than putting people in jail for it.
The article also mentions that the majority of people who use it are between 16 and 24 years old. Great way to end up with hardened criminals down the line.
thehatfox@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Most of our political establishment is still in complete denial about the failure of the war on drugs. They keep doubling down on prohibition because they can’t accept it doesn’t work.
I’m not sure what or who it will take to wake up Westminster to the reality. Those few that have tried to change the course, such as David Nutt, have had little success. The Liberal Democrats still have cannabis legalisation as a policy, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they step back from that as they eye up more traditionally Tory seats (if they haven’t already).
echodot@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I wish they would just make cannabis legal, and then just not make a big thing of it. It’s such a non-policy when you think about it, “oh we’re going to stop criminalising people who’ve barely done anything wrong, aren’t we wonderful”.
They view every policy as something that will either gain them votes or lose them votes so the idea of just doing something quietly is alien to them.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Prohibition works! (for people who profit off the misery of others)
ilikekeyboards@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s alright though. All these can users are all white kids. Can’t believe this foreign owned government to start a drug war against a race that’s not not white
wewbull@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Now double banned for your safety.