Submitted 1 year ago by merridew@feddit.uk to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/04/twitter-saudi-arabia-human-rights-abuses
“Lawsuit says network discloses user data at request of Saudi authorities at much higher rate than for US, UK and Canada”
Would you all read the fucking article? Yes, Elon sucks and is tanking Twitter, but all this is from stuff that happened in 2015, long before he bought Twitter.
They’re still putting people to death because of tweets.
Alghamdi’s brother, Saeed Alghamdi, believes the case against his younger brother is actually meant to target him. Saeed Alghamdi is a well-known Islamic scholar connected to many of the kingdom’s most prominent jailed critics. He left Saudi Arabia in 2013 and founded the Saudi rights group, SANAD. He now lives in exile in the United Kingdom.
Not clear its because of the Tweet
Maybe that’s why the title says Twitter and not Elon…
Yet all of the comments at the time I made my OP were going on about Elon like he did this.
And this should stop us from talking about this?
No. Look at all the comments though. Everyone is blaming Musk for it when the lawsuit is actually about the company before he bought it.
Would you all read the fucking article?
Never, it’s my greatest fear on the entire internet.
Don’t make us read!
EM used Saudi money to buy the shithole and you think they won't want something in return?
They certainly don't expect to be paid in profits...
Fuck Twitter for doing that, but how about we also keep Saudis responsible for the crimes they’re committing? just saying
They’re a sovereign nation. What are we gonna do, launch a military invasion? And it’s not like sanctions are a realistic solution, either; the west is far more dependent on Saudi oil than the Saudis are on western money. The world is chock full of other customers that will be more than happy to step up.
Yes, pretty much everything the Saudis do is abhorrent, but unless you’re suggesting that the answer to their crimes is to commit even worse crimes against them, you’re just flailing around spouting off impotent virtue signals.
Just like in any other country, the only legitimate way to solve the problem of govenment corruption and oppression is for the people of that country to force a change.
I don’t understand the downvotes. I do not concur with the end for a lot of reasons, but this is a legitimate answer to the comment before
white people love telling people in 3rd world countries living under oppressive governments to “just start a revolution”
They can point at our death penalty also
Elon buying Twitter in the first place (with plans to openly destroy it) was helping them commit rights abuses in the first place - Twitter was a critical communications/organization tool during the Arab Spring, musk’s job was in part to make sure that it wasn’t sustainable for that purpose in the future, and it now isn’t.
This has been the main thing all along.
This is pre-xitter
So, would that be pronounced “Shitter”?
Seems apt.
But now they have the fediverse which is arguably a lot better than some corporate proprietary crap that censors anything revolutionary
But now they have the fediverse which is arguably a lot better than some corporate proprietary crap that censors anything revolutionary
but it has a very limited audience, and that probably won’t change any time soon
I think the same but for many political happenings.
Just for you guys to know, a Saudi teacher got death sentence over tweets, reported form last week.
And Kashoggi got baited and chopped to bits by the Saudis over financing opposing voices on Twitter.
It looks like he posted under his own name and was arrested last year. Guess they are getting nervous about their rule there.
I guess their investment in Elon paid off.
Retroactively, in 2015?
See my link elsewhere in the thread. This hasn’t stopped.
X plans to collect biometric information, job, education history for safety, security, and identification purposes.
Elon did not care about this at all. Its so important for people to remain anonymous in the digital world.
Try this: wiremin.org
I’ve been using Mastodon for over a year with no trouble and digging it. The best part is no ads or algorithm bs
At this point, it wouldn’t be anywhere near surprising if any of the major social media giants from any country were aiding human rights abuses in any country.
Muskrat has to pay back them loans somehow.
This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
I stand by what I said.
This is why personal privacy & nyms are important. We need to leave those platforms that collect our identity info, there is no privacy at all!
This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
I stopped using Twitter when Musk took over. I kept my account for a while but recently I logged in, saw a bunch of alt-right transphobia and racism, and then deleted my account.
I deleted mine the day he took over.
Free speech absolutist, but only when it’s straight up harmful.
Its about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The new legal filing comes days after Human Rights Watch condemned a Saudi court for sentencing a man to death based solely on his Twitter and YouTube activity, which it called an “escalation” of the government’s crackdown on freedom of expression.
After Abouammo resigned in May 2015, he continued to contact Twitter to field requests he was receiving from Bader al-Asaker, a senior aide of Mohammed bin Salman, for the identity of confidential users.
The lawsuit also alleges that Twitter had “ample notice” of security risks to internal personal data, and that there was a threat of insiders illegally accessing it, based on public reporting at the time.
Between July and December 2015, Twitter granted the kingdom information requests “significantly more often” than most other countries at that time, including Canada, the UK, Australia, and Spain, the lawsuit alleges.
Twitter would later notify users who had been exposed, telling them their data “may” have been targeted, but did not provide more specific information about the scale or certainty that the breach had, in fact, occurred.
Dorsey met with bin Salman about six months after the company was made aware of the issue by the FBI, and the two discussed how to “train and qualify Saudi cadres”.
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Why am I not suprised
FUCK MUSK AND FUCK SPEZ
This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
AND ZUCK
Typical Musk Monday
That took much less time than I expected.
Yeah, only 9 years to get caught and brought public.
This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
Yes, from when the “spies” were found working there. The accusation that Twitter had knowledge of what they were doing wasn’t originally part of the case. The suit was only filed just over a year ago, and now Twitter has officially been added.
Very disgusting of the website.
how is this news?? everyone knows twitter is now partially owned by the saudis specifically for the purpose of its dismantlement. elon gets to have his fun shitting on liberals, trying all the fever dream-business-nonsense he either knows wont work or people have never let him do before.. because he doesnt care! the goal is its demise, and the saudis financed it.
This is from Twitter 2014 and 2015
I remember during the Arab Spring when everyone was saying how great twitter was and how it was fueling the revolts
twitter is still a platform for cunts. End of story.
One more point to the fediverse.
Dog piling retards read you follow the heard cunts
You mean X?
No, Twitter in 2014 and 2015
Since when did Twitter become a platform for sending death sentences? Isn’t there a better alternative?
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Not surprising to anyone who remembers that the saudis gave Elon the money needed to buy Twitter. Naturally they have an anti democratic interest in it
WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The article isn’t about Musk
Tyfud@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Correct. This is largely for a time pre Musk.
themajesticdodo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The statement is still true, though? They got value out of it previously so they would be happy to float money to Elon to keep it useful for them.
mriguy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, but it establishes how useful a tool a Twitter you control is to crushing dissent. Which explains why they helped Musk buy it - as bad as Twitter’s previous management may have been, they at least tried to appear honorable. Musk is really leaning into the authoritarian bootlicker thing, so I’m sure he’s eager to get Tesla programmers in there to find new ways to hunt down dissidents.