severe mix feelings.
glad they caught him, but corporations casually snooping through your data and report whatever they want is definitely not an good thing
Google tipped off authorities to illicit images in Canadian doctor's account, search warrants say
Submitted 16 hours ago by Beep@lemmus.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/9.7115031
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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Dojan@pawb.social 14 hours ago
Was a gay guy here in Sweden who got assaulted and kidnapped by masked police because some American company had found CSAM on his account while crawling through Yahoo email.
Only it wasn’t CSAM, the photos depicted the man’s 30 year old twinky boyfriend.
No restitution. No police were punished for assaulting a suspect proved innocent. The man and his boyfriend both were humiliated.
I’ve no mixed feelings about it. Spying through private data is entirely unforgivable. There are plenty of pesos out there who get caught and nothing happens anyway. They don’t need to violate innocent people’s privacy to do their job.
Like if the ends justify the means you can end all suffering in the world by just nuking everything. All problems solved.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 53 minutes ago
Oh gods now you have me worried. 20 years ago I was a hundred pounds lighter and just a bag of skin holding a skeleton. There are some photos of me on my Google account that skinny. (also in your medical textbooks but anyways) and I also have photos of me now. We look like completely different people.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Microsoft has been doing this for years. It was with Onedrive at first but now that they’ve enabled “analytics” in every product that might connect to the internet they can have it all searched.
Supposedly it is first filtered by algorithms but that shit is still being uploaded somewhere other than your hard drive.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
I believe it was in preview build versions of Win 7 or 10 where researchers found it was sending the generated thumbnails of images on your PC to Redmond (MS HQ). Can’t remember if they said it was for CSAM detection or just a debugging feature in the preview builds.
obvs@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Unfortunately, the negative effects from companies like Google turning in completely ethical people for doing things that should be completely legal and uncontroversial will do drastically more damage than the positive effects from said companies turning in the poorest of the pedophiles.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 15 hours ago
They’re suggesting it was automated hash based recognition.
I don’t have a problem with CSAM hash matching.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 14 hours ago
Sure, until it starts flagging normal pictures with us janky AI and you get your door kicked in based on a warrant signed by Google.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
my issue is that we have a framework for corporations to scan all your data and inform the state. used to stop CSAM, but it’s a matter of state policy wether said structure will be used to fight discent.
org@lemmy.org 14 hours ago
“The first image in the ‘Nudity’ collection … depicted who I believe to be David Edward-Ooi Poon without a shirt, taking a selfie of himself while sticking out his tongue over an unconscious adult female,” the search-warrant application states. The document goes on to describe the woman in the photo as naked below the waist and wearing a dark-coloured eye mask over her eyes.
The detective alleges that that photograph and others she examined appeared to be stored in a folder on the iPhone titled “Girls I Drugged And Raped.”
Doesn’t sound like hashes to me.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
In the US companies are legally mandated to report specific things such as CSAM and other things if they come across it.
What the issue should be isn’t the fact that they are reporting it, the issue should be they have the capability to see it in the first place to be able to report it.
This isn’t me defending CSAM or anything like that but, in a decent storage system, google shouldn’t be able to even see what you have, let alone what the images actually are.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Today it’s for CSAM. Tomorrow it could be for saying anything negative about dear leader. Our Constitution clearly won’t protect us.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 46 minutes ago
Not to get too pedantic, but dammit I just got off the phone with a lawyer. The constitution itself never did anything directly to the public. It outlines the powers given to and withheld from the main branches of the federal government of the US. Those branches empower the agencies that you expect to protect you
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
They not only look at your files but will decrypt any encrypted zip files to see what you have.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 28 minutes ago
That seems less like them decrypting encrypted archives and more like the zip format not encrypting filenames so they’re easily read from the zip’s metadata.
Which is still a privacy violation, to be clear, but not nearly on the same scale as somehow obtaining and using your passwords.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 16 hours ago
The detective alleges that that photograph and others she examined appeared to be stored in a folder on the iPhone titled “Girls I Drugged And Raped.”
herrvogel@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Also the guy’s last name is Poon.
db2@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I thought you both were trying to be funny. How is that even real.
org@lemmy.org 14 hours ago
Then it wasn’t hashes
Zetta@mander.xyz 13 hours ago
If you read the article, it looks like only 9 images were originally reported by Google. The images in the folder called the girls I drugged and raped were on his iPhone that they broke into with Celebrate.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 14 hours ago
The images I am referring to are likely distinct from the ones in the title as they are from his iPhone and Google is who reported him. Regardless in the article it says the detective looked at one of the Google reported images. Whether they just referenced a known hash I don’t know for sure, but I think it’s pretty well known that FAANG scan basically all images for CSAM nowadays.
SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 7 hours ago
This reminds me that there are 1000s of SysAdmins that stumbled onto the Trumpstien emails. They were not hidding anything at all, that shit was setting flags off everywhere. The question is what happened next? Did the CIA show up at their door telling them they will put you in the ground if they have to and remind them that their Google employee NDA shuts thems up. Maybe the honeypot was so in-gained in Google that the emails were auto flagged as “part of an ongoing investigation” and IT just ignored them.
Crt_static@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Kind of fine with this. It gives me the ick they can do that, but so does CSAM and I don’t see a middle ground.
BUGS@lemmy.org 12 hours ago
I don’t know why anyone would expect Google isn’t sifting through what you upload to its cloud.
Crt_static@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I never expected any privacy from Google. Combing thru data is their business model
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Reminds me of case when Google effectively swatted dude who sent medical images of his infant son intimate areas to a doctor (due to COVID lockdown direct visit wasnt possible)
Nice to be accused of pedophilia based on your perfectly legit medical documentation.
Fuck you Google.