Historic Chat Control Vote in the EU Parliament: MEPs Vote to End Untargeted Mass Scanning of Private Chats

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https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/historic-chat-control-vote-in-the-eu-parliament-meps-vote-to-end-untargeted-mass-scanning-of-private-chats/

In a sensational turn of events in the fight against Chat Control, a majority in the European Parliament voted today to end the untargeted mass scanning of private communications. In doing so, the Parliament firmly rejected the error-prone and unconstitutional surveillance practices of recent years. Pressure is now mounting on EU governments to respect the MEPs’ vote and bury untargeted mass surveillance in Europe once and for all.

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me_myself_and_I@lemmy.world ⁨24⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
*Officially

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BladeFederation@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
altr

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GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Now Denmark, don’t you fucking dare to do this again!

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bonenode@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Once and for all… until the next vote?

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- FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Everything is temporary.
  
  Political participation is a full-time job, keep the pressure on and the change will endure.
  
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Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I wonder what all these anti-EU russian propaganda bots are going to use now to sow discontent against the EU… lol

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- ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Probably pointing out the imperialism. It’s important to listen to your critics because there can be kernels of truth amongst the bullshit.
  
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  - Tiger_Man_@szmer.info ⁨32⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    russians pointing out imperialism… how ironic
    
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- Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It was a genuine concern, I am happy with the result
  
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  - iglou@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Of course. Nothing is black and white. This was a real issue, but still abused by anti-EU propaganda to weaken us.
    
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- PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  .ml users crying in their commie blocks
  
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theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
What is this? Good news? In this economy? It simply cannot be!

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- SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  This is democracy manifest!
  
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- Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Euroooopeeeee!!!
  
  (Well the EU but it sounds less cool).
  
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  - VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    EUUU! (said like a new jersey mafioso says “eyyy”)
    
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drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Finally some good fucking news. Now let’s make it so there’s no 2.0 3.0 etc constantly trying to sneak this in - we need to enshrine privacy into real laws.

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Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Why is it possible to vote for something that is against the constitution?

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Broadfern@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Yay Europe! Genuinely happy for you folks.

Maybe someday we’ll have freedom and privacy in the US :’)

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- thorhop@sopuli.xyz ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Halt! You have gone below the mandatory threshold for nationally mandated jingoism. An ICE unit has been dispatched to your location to bring you to the RFK Right-To-Labour camp.
  
  The beating will continue until moral improves.
  
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- timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It’s definitely starting to feel like having your rights enshrined on unalterable tablets of stone, but which must be re-interpreted by a half dozen political appointees holding a seance with the founding fathers every few months, may not be the platonic ideal of governance that Americans are constantly telling the world it is.
  
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  - WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Do nine men interpret? Nine men, I nod.
    
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phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Awesome

Can we now put that in some form of European constitution, pretty please with a cherry?

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- SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Or we put it on a timer and let it bubble up in some months to reevaluate it over and over again. Wouldn’t that be fun?
  
  🫩
  
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Drew1718@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Doesn’t mean anything yet. Parliament can get overruled by the Council, whom seem more in favor of untargeted scanning.

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- richardwallass@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The commission always got the last word
  
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Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yay for the EU! Hopefully you guys get a law that will permanently enshrine your privacy rights (or rights to encrypted chats at least).

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- jeffep@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  GDPR already exists, but there is no such thing as permanence in politics. Constant struggle
  
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  - GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    And there have been talks to weaken GDPR to appease Americans. So no rights are ever permanent
    
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- Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  There is no such thing as permanent laws. And for good reasons.
  
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  - Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I mean, yeah, I didn’t necessarily mean forever. And you’re right. But I hope you get some sort of law that is actually enforceable and has a chance of being useful for as long as it lives to defend you right to privacy.
    
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themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Shit, I’ve heard so much gear mongoring about this for so long. Also on here.

The EU’s stance have never been anything other than no chat control. All everyone else have pointed out are proposals not even reaching the votes, or got voted down.

I get that you are afraid that the EU would do it anyway and pass the proposals. But they never did, and even if it got voted for today, it’s not even final and needs to go to the council who is openly against it.

But so nice that this is FINALLY put down.

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- balsoft@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  This is a really naive take - this amendment (which requires message scanning to be targeted) passed with a slim majority and could well have failed. In that case the existing mass surveillance (“voluntary scanning”) would probably keep happening at least until 2028.
  
  The council meanwhile is overwhelmingly pro-message-scanning, and they (together with the commission) are the ones who are pushing to break e2e encryption. There will now be talks between the three institutions to decide on how to proceed. Sadly I expect that some “compromise” will be reached eventually.
  
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- Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  It’s always better to be worried for nothing than not worried for something you didn’t pay enough attention to. Even if something fascist has no chance of passing, you should still resist it as loudly and as aggressively as possible, every single time.
  
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- MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Glad to know. I’d rather be overly cautious than overly careless about privacy, tho (looks across the Atlantic)
  
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- hector@lemmy.today ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Says the guy overlooking not the other trojan horse of age controls being brought inside the walls. Your analysis is not so good.
  
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  - Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That “trojan horse” is nothing but a paper tiger since age control will be managed in a completely privacy-friendly way. It is a non-issue. So that is why it is being “overlooked”
    
    The check will send nothing more than a yes/no verification, and no other forms of identification.
    
    And the information will be managed by a governmental institute that already has all that information.
    
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- WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  A lot of lemmings really hate the idea of democracy actually working somewhere in the world.
  
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  - Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yeah, tankies can’t handle it.
    
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lb_o@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Good News! I was so afraid for our future in Europe.

Losing freedoms in our modern times will lead to just another authoritarian state, which will eventually lead to shit.

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ISOmorph@feddit.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

In doing so, the Parliament firmly rejected the error-prone and unconstitutional surveillance practices of recent years.

Good news. However shouldn’t that also include online age verification?

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- Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  No, those things can be done in a completely private way.
  
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Antaeus@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Great news!

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Jiral@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
The war over civil rights is continuing, no questions but this has been an important vote against the surveillance state ambitions.

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greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Europe has pressure to shift the narrative from all systems and institutes have been a part of the parasite class goals, to these concessions. “Noo don’t collapse us, we are less rigged”. But rigged is still rigged

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testaccount372920@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Hell yeah! Great to hear that

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Attacker94@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Maybe I’m misreading, but it seems like this only applies in the context of sex crimes. I see no reason based upon the wording that they couldn’t do it for other things even with this in place

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- freeman@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  No it says they any scanning must be in the context of sex crimes. It’s otherwise prohibited.
  
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