I’m really furious at this. I bought a bunch in the past two years as that’s my go-to brands for my backup solutions.
My main takeaway:
Don’t buy SanDisk. Don’t buy Western Digital.
I don’t care if it’s only a few models. I’m not risking my data.
SanDisk Extreme SSDs are “worthless,” multiple lawsuits against WD say
Submitted 1 year ago by Gnubyte@lemdit.com to technology@lemmy.world
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Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 1 year ago
jsh@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Every drive in my computer: NVME, SSD, and HDD is a WD drive. 🫣
nurple@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So far these issues only apply to these specific SSDs … fingers crossed it stays that way, because like you I’ve got a number of WD HDDs in my life.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
And frankly, your data should never be in question. Short of a drive failure where the whole drive dies, which would require data recovery services, your data should be safely stored. IMO that’s the premise of data storage; and bluntly, it’s the only job it has… To store, keep, and retrieve data when asked.
If it cannot do that, or has any nontrivial risk of being unable to do that, then it’s not worth the plastics that make up the case. Unless you’re using the drive as a temp/scrub/whatever disk, it’s unusable in my opinion.
RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
So what did you end up buying and was that just random choice or based on some research/experience?
Qualanqui@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
Samsung, bit more pricey but both my ssd and ram are both Samsung chips and I haven’t had a single problem with either.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 1 year ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In May, Ars Technica reported about customer complaints that claimed SanDisk Extreme SSDs were abruptly wiping data and becoming unmountable.
Ian Sloss, one of the lawyers representing Matthew Perrin and Brian Bayerl in a complaint filed yesterday, told Ars he doesn’t believe class-action certification will be a major barrier in a case “where there is a common defect in the firmware that is consistent in all devices.”
Perrin and Bayerl’s complaint mentions the 2TB Extreme, which Western Digital hasn’t officially confirmed as an affected device.
Jafri’s complaint says he bought an Extreme Pro (capacity not specified) because he was on an extended van trip and needed storage for drone footage, photos, and travel mementos.
The cases seek restitution, including damages, and for Western Digital to stop selling the affected drives until they’re fixed or the problems are fully disclosed on all labels, packaging, and advertising.
Sloss told Ars that challenges of the case might include establishing how frequently drives failed after Western Digital shared its May firmware update.
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spoon00@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Back in the day, working with WD was a nightmare. The spinning HDs never came with a keyed IDE cable. It must have saved them $.0001 per HD shipped. If you accidentally put the cable in backwards, it not only burned out the logic board on the WD HD, it would also burn out any other drives on the cable. And the IDE controller on the motherboard. Now it is easy to remember how to do it right. Install the power cable and then make sure the red wire on the power cable was next to the red wire (pin 1) on the IDE cable. But if you rush or make an assumption, that was an expensive mistake.
Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wow. That’s such a ridiculous oversight.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This sounds like maybe early 90’s possibly without voltage regulators at the molex connector. I’ve been doing this a very long time and have never heard of this.
oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I’ve serviced computers where the ide cable key was hand-striped or with some other marking with a marker as opposed to the line (spoon’s red wire) already keyed from factory, somewhere mid 90’s. regular procedure at that shop i think at that time to mark any unkeyed cable found. not that i ever had to mark any single one, so even then they were really old ide cables.
Actually…i kind or remember a motherboard coming up in smoke from one of those when someone made a mistake. brand new first week technician i think.
terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Just a reminder of the 3-2-1 backup model.
Semi important things are backed up to my home server. Super important stuff is stored on a big name cloud service.
Also, don’t forget paper exists. For smaller documents, it could be worth printing them, and putting them in a water/fire resistant safe.
ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Also, don’t forget paper exists. For smaller documents, it could be worth printing them, and putting them in a water/fire resistant safe.
Before paper, and somewhere in-between the digital and analogue, maybe go weird with discs or magnetic tape drives (if you’re really into your electronic data storage)?
And for the sillier side to this: don’t forget to laser etch the most important records in stone. Don’t think it’s worth the trouble? Wouldn’t have some of our ancient records if they weren’t literally carved in stone, so…Incidentally, would anyone happen to know of any personal robotic stone engraving tools one could get?
Would be fun to pass in some text and let a machine go to work on some stray stones.
Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id 1 year ago
Me with 2 WD HDDs and 2 Sandisk SD card: this is fine
HollandJim@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s all US lawsuits - any I can should know about in the EU?
Vub@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wondering as well.
Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Serious question:
How do you guys handle backups and how often do you do it?
I know I’m not doing particularly well. Once in a blue moon I’ll copy over files from my main drive onto my secondary drive. But I’m not doing anything fancy - literally copy the Documents and a few other folders and that’s it. I’m not compressing anything. I’m still keeping that secondary drive connected to my PC so if I got a virus, all that data could be infected. I also store some files on my Gdrive and OneDrive but those have long since filled up and I rarely bother to go through them to delete what I didn’t need anymore.
I feel whatever backup tools Windows has built in are probably worthless, but then again, I could be totally wrong on that.
Curious how real people handle this.
zerbey@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You are on a trip to disaster. Trust me, I do this for a living. One day you’re going to have a horrible surprise. I once had a guy get fired right there on a support call with me, he lost years worth of data because he wasn’t following good archival processes.
For consumer stuff:
- Buy a cheap NAS, plenty out there. Even one with just two drives is better than nothing (that’s what I do). Splurge and get one that does RAID-5, you’ll thank me one day. 1a. A cheaper, but less effective option, just buy two drives and see if your BIOS supports RAID (most modern motherboards do). If not, well you can do it in you OS too, but hardware RAID is always better.
- Subscribe to a service like Google Drive, or One Drive, or Dropbox, or whatever you prefer. If you’re uncomfortable about putting stuff in the cloud then encrypt it first (VeraCrypt, GPG4Win, Password protected ZIP files even).
If you are running a business, definitely go with a good NAS, AND buy a tape library and get into a routine of rotating out the tapes and storing them off site (tapes are no use to you if your building get broken into, or burns down). And, use cloud storage too.
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Use a service like backblaze
Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Checked it out and (at least on mobile), you can’t even see what the pricing is like. Seems aimed more at businesses as well.
elk@kbin.social 1 year ago
I'm a pro photographer and Backblaze has saved my butt multiple times.
coffee@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’m using Genius Scan+ and bought the cloud backup option for like $3 one-off, that enables automated exports to dropbox, google drive and a bunch of other services. Every document I receive is scanned and adequately named right away, and then automatically exported to both google drive and dropbox.
The dropbox client then again runs on my laptop and desktop and automatically syncs new files to the local folders, so I have the original scan on my phone plus two cloud backups and the local copies of the cloud backups on another two devices.
The original documents are kept in physical folders, neatly stored at home.
jackoneill@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I have a rack in my garage, all my servers and my gaming rig are in it - fiber cables run through my attic to my office to connect the front end of my gaming rig (monitor and usb c hub with peripherals).
My domain and all of my services are either VM’s on vmware or xcp-ng, or dockers on a VM. It’s all VM’s, except for the gaming rig and the Veeam backup server - they are bare metal.
VMware VM’s are backed up with Veeam to a bare metal windows 2019 backup server (because its backup its the only bare metal server in the rack). First copy goes to internal RAID5 array. Second copy goes to ISCSI target that is netgear NAS in RAID5. Third copy goes to Wasabi.
Most docker data is on the docker VM’s themselves, but if i need to mess with the data on the docker, that data is on a RAID5 Synology NAS. This gets backed up to Wasabi via duplicati. The system backup for the bare metal backup server also gets duplicati’ed to wasabi to make recovery from a site level disaster a little bit easier.
Everything XCP-NG gets backed up first copy to an UnRaid NAS with 2 parity disks, then copied to Wasabi. I will eventually get a second local target - I have some promising candidates in the shop, I just need time to diagnose and repair them.
Every Windows server and my gaming rig gets backed up direct to cloud with Redstor since I have extra space in the NFR bucket where I work and I manage that product. Gaming rig has no other backup so that’s nice (most game installs not backed up but everything else is). Other windows servers are backed up either via the Veeam chain or the XCP-NG chain, but it’s nice to have a secondary backup. I would do the Linux ones as well but Redstor sucks with Linux right now and it’s not worth the hassle.
Plex media is on another UnRaid box with 2 parity drives, but no other backup. This content can all be re-downloaded via automated systems if the array ever fails. I have had the hardware that data is on fail several times but it’s always been recoverable, knock on wood.
I am slowly working on phasing out VMware/Veeam in favor of XCP-NG, but it’s a long process.
elscallr@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My important stuff gets backed up to a personal S3 bucket. Stuff I use regularly goes to my Google Drive as well. I’ve got my personal server that’s has 80TB of raid space, but that’s data that I can afford to lose.
discodoubloon@kbin.social 1 year ago
I have a few different drives that I mirror my documents folder to, then upload the most important stuff to cloud too.
Chewget@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Happened to one of my passports. All wiped won’t connect
itscozydownhere@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve got an older 500GB one that has been going strong for years. But yeah I just bought a Crucial
kaitco@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This reminds me that I need to do my bi-annual backup of all my drives.
…onto WD HDDs no less. 😏
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I haven’t bought a WD drive over reliability concerns for quite a few years now, but now it makes sense too. I’ve seen way too many reports of Sandisk drives failing, with the news swept under the rug, and that’s very on brand for WD to do
sagrotan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Here comes the revenge for 1tb of list data and family photos, WD. Get fuuuuuuuuucked!
Espi@kbin.social 1 year ago
Wow, I really like WD SSDs, I got an SN850X and it's blazing fast. I really like that you can change the sector size as well, most SSDs don't bother with 4k sectors and just leave you with 512b ones.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well, that’s not a model that’s listed so your should be good. It’s only a few models with issues.
joshuaacasey@lemmy.world 1 year ago
wait. Does Western Digital own SanDisk?
uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Since 2016
joshuaacasey@lemmy.world 1 year ago
TIL