Facebook is absolutely cooked

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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So long Facebook, see you never, until one day I inexplicably need to use your platform to get updates from my kid’s school.

  This makes me so fucking angry.

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  • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We need a dumb browser.

    This browser doesn’t work for most shit, making it the best browser available for most shit you actually need to do.

    That’s a browser I can get behind.

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    • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is NetSurf, Dillo, Links and W3M.

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  • ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Literally the only reason my family interacts with Facebook. It’s infuriating.

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  • BitsAndBites@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can’t stand how many companies and organizations only have a presence on Facebook. When I reach out to them to ask if there is another way to stay connected I usually get a big NOPE.

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    • kalpol@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It is the asking that matters. If you sound really unhappy it makes maybe a little tiny bit of pressure, but many little bits make a lot

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  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My kid refused. The school district was notified that they needed to do something else, or we would sue. They changed.

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I missed out on a lot of communication for my kids’ extracurriculars because they were only on Facebook and I don’t use it. It’s infuriating, but less infuriating than the other platforms that a couple of the groups used to attempt to communicate schedules and requirements.

    It’s ridiculous that this sort of thing isn’t a solved problem. Schools need to communicate with parents in an effective way, yet none of the platforms I’ve used work well. I’ve been in tech for decades and I still have trouble with their shitty UI.

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    • antonim@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      OTOH you may have missed the communication even if you were on Facebook. These days your feed is just 1/3 the groups you’re in and pages you’ve liked, 1/3 is the “recommended for you” random garbage, and 1/3 is ads.

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    • stray@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is there a reason an emailing group isn’t a good solution?

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Each state should have a website that each district can post updates to, and whatever else. It would cost next to nothing. There is no reason to use fb at all, let alone exclusively.

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  • RunningInRVA@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oops. I basically duplicated your reply. You are spot on the mark.

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  • phx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Second to worst for that is the excessive use of Google stuff, including Chromebooks replacing PC labs, and a bunch of G-software

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• themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ummmm the Facebook feed is an advanced algorithm that knows a shit ton about what to feed you to keep you engaged. It’s not just the cookies from sites you visit. They track what thumbnails get you to stop scrolling. They track the way a human eye moves and how far your thumb glides across the screen.

  Point is, if it’s all scantily clad thirst traps, thats what gets your attention. If you see one, and you stop to take a screenshot for an article you’re writing about how it’s all thirst traps, then every third item will be another thirst trap.

  Facebook doesn’t care if you want to see that content. Their goal is to keep your eyes on Facebook. If it makes you mad enough to comment, that’s engagement.

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  • Khrux@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When I was still using Instagram reels, I was always amazed how quickly the algorithm figured me out. If I hesitated for even a second on a reel, it would amend my next ones immediately. I assume the real trick is comparing it to the average time spent on a reel, everyone spends longer on a wall of text reel, but when I stop on a Linux reel for an extra second, I’m immediately in the 1% for engagement.

    I read something years ago about how your phone keyboard tracks your recommended words, it knows if you’re more likely to type apple or Apple, or if you type soup more than average, and any app that gets that data and compares it to the baseline has an instant, in depth profile on you.

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    • thatonecoder@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is exactly why using something like FUTO Keyboard is essential, nowadays.

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is why I love the idea of Cromite and other “antifingerprinting” efforts, not simply blocking but spoofing and plausibly randomizing as many metrics as they can.

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  • Trixxstrr@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Exactly, if I look at my facebook feed, besides posts from people and groups I actually follow, the “suggested” posts are all stuff that matches my interests. gaming, music, movies.

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  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They hadn’t used Facebook in years, so this is the default algorithm state — rage bait and bate-bait.

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    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Seems to have worked then.

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  • murvel@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If that’s your take and thats their goal: he doesn’t seem very engaged with the content does he?

    So clearly in that case it’s a failure.

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    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      On the contrary, I’d say it’s a smashing success. First, the author was deeply engaged with Facebook to write the article. Second, everyone who saw this article and discussed the findings was engaged with Facebook even if they didn’t have the app open. You and I are engaged with Facebook right now. And third, many many more people logged into their Facebook to test the findings either out of curiosity, to disprove the theory, or because they are horny goblins thirsting for smut.

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• RunningInRVA@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So long Facebook, see you never, until one day I inexplicably need to use your platform to get updates from my kid’s school.

  Screw any school or PTA that distributes information by Facebook. That should be outlawed.

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  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If only there was a way to send the same communication to a group of people at once, regardless of what platform they use.

    Alas, that sort of technology seems impossible. Even in Star Trek they don’t have such a thing.

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• VinegarChunks@lemmus.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I deleted Facebook maybe two years ago. One of the last things I saw was a very obviously AI generated image of six or seven soldiers that had lost the same leg and all had it replaced with a prosthetic at exactly the same point, with some caption about “let’s get some likes for our wounded warriors!” Followed by dozens of comments in support, I assume all were bots.

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• TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Guy opens dumpster, is amazed by the amount of trash in there, writes an article about it.

  Wow, really low hanging fruits here.

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  • murvel@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And some rando fucking lemmy/reddit user complains about it.

    It’s the cycle of life.

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    • Sturgist@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Image

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    • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Negative attention is also attention. Dumb shit doesn’t deserve any.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Idk I thought it was an interesting article. I haven’t logged in since like 08, so I had no idea what it is like now.

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    • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Everyone should not know what’s going on on Facebook. Or Instagram, tiktok, etc.

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• JaymesRS@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am so upset that FB killed Craigslist, that is basically the only reason I use it regularly anymore. My feed has basically been taken over by right wing influencer bots otherwise.

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  • eli@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I tried logging in to use the Marketplace to sell some shit. For whatever reason I couldn’t access it. My account is verified, location is set, and some marketplace settings pages said my account is in good standing. Sent a request to support weeks ago and heard nothing.

    So I just throw shit away now. Like I WANT to use your platform, but you’re not letting me. Bye.

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    • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can find a buy nothing group. I don’t use Facebook but that’s what family members do.

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  • rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Craigslist still exists though. We could just… bring it back by using it again. As a bonus, it’s not an app so it doesn’t track you.

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    • JaymesRS@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh believe me I’m trying. I will usually cross-post things I’m selling, but I don’t get anywhere near the interest I’m my 104,000 person metropolitan area.

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• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What I barely understand is why businesses keep fueling this ad inferno. If it’s mostly bots farming engagement, isn’t that going to limit the effectiveness of advertising? Won’t that eventually show up in their returns on the advertising’? Do they really want their business associated with scantily clad 14 year old feeds, or are they all totally blind to that.

  I get part of it… social media is the internet now, for most people. So if you want reach, where else are ya gonna go? Cable?

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  • BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are big businesses still advertising on Facebook? I’d heard that they were running ads for full-on scams, presumably because few real people are left on the platform and it’s no longer attractive to most advertisers.

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  • GenosseFlosse@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The businesses that advertise on Facebook are mostly scams from what I have seen. For them the ads work, and they have no reputation to lose.

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• NatakuNox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Most socia media traffic is just bots commenting on Ai slop. And those “real” posts have their humans thinking thousands of people actually give a shit about their selfies. Completely cooked society.

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  • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And those “real” posts

    Albert Einstein

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What mine shows me is mostly racism and xenophobia. I mean, they know I’m white. Figured they might as well just shoot their shot.

  Meanwhile it’s utterly terrible at the one thing it’s supposed to do. I’m got a few old friends and family members on there. Not super close or anything, but the kind of people you’d be vaguely interested in seeing if they had cancer or had babies or anything. Didn’t show me those events at all.

  Like, what is even the point of it other than a US far-right psy-op?

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• Somecall_metim@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  YouTube ass title.

  Anytime any article or video says that, what ever the subject is get by just fine.

  It’s like that journalist law, the one where the answer is always “no” if the headline has a question in it.

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• Territorial@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I just did the same thing - logged on to my facebook account after many years, and I’m not having the same experience at all. Old friends, neighbors, and relatives posting disappointing amounts of AI slop, some local news it suggests I follow (something about a hairdresser getting fined for refusing service), one particular former neighbor posting an endless barrage of AI-generated religious slop… and that’s about it. It wasn’t interesting a decade ago, and it only got less interesting since.

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• MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Who needs Fakebook when there is moltbook

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  • dhork@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Which has more bots?

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    • KraeuterRoy@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes

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    • MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why are you asking? Are you looking for like-minded people?

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  • cygnus@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    JFC this is what we’re destroying the environment for?

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep!

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  • zd9@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I sat in a brief on this, and while it definitely was hyped up a bit and strategically poked by humans to get some responses, the overall takeaway is that I’m fucking terrified of what’s to come with AI… and I work in AI research…

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    • MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Assume you have to vote for the next US president: There are just a few candidates left: ☐ Grok ☐ Claude ☐ Gemini ☐ ChatGPT ☐ Trump

      What would you choose…

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    • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I never imagined how stupid the average AI user would be.

      Like, just the amount of trust, sycophancy, and blind faith they put in these things is terrifying. OpenClaw is the worst though. Imagine just throwing money into the money furnace for … this??

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• whaleross@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There are addons for Firefox and other browsers too to clean out all the unwanted junk on Facebook. When I go on Facebook now it shows almost exclusively stuff that people I know have posted and groups that I follow. SocialFocus is one of them. Try it, it makes a huge difference.

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  • fullsquare@awful.systems ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    there was chrome (and firefox probably?) extension that went through your all fb liked pages and unsubscribed from them (idk precise term) so that when it’s done timeline is gone entirely. fb went after its dev, removed that extension and banned him forever because it kept people off fb

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sumnary: a opinion piece about how Zuckbook is only a AI wasteland anymore.

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• pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s weird is that facebook only fills my feed with slop when I open in on my phone.

  On my desktop browser, my feed only contains things I have subscribed to.

  I logged out from my phone. It’s just unusable.

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• Vorticity@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I haven’t really looked at Facebook in a long time but also haven’t deleted my account because I do use Facebook marketplace sometimes.

  I just logged in and looked. I actually saw no AI generated content except the few examples that were posted by people I know. I’m sure other’s experiences are different, but the algorithm isn’t feeding me slop for some reason.

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• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Also, this is not that far from Instagram. And even with real women it always felt slimy to me.

  And… weird. What’s the appeal?

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• foodandart@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hm.

  I just logged into my fb account and got zero shit like that. Just posts from a distant cousin, a few local people I follow and my local news.

  I make it a point to hide/block all the extraneous shit that the feed offers - and have sone so for years - so maybe that’s the difference?

  Weird.

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• A23167@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s the silly meta icon in WhatsApp that really gets on my nerves. Really needs to go away

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• Renat@szmer.info ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Finally. Facebook and X created AGI. Artificial Gooner Intelligence.

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• GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s a blog.

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• 4grams@awful.systems ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I garnet been on facebook in like 10 years, but sounds like it’s exactly as I picture it.

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• Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Currently banned for “unusual activity”, after arguing with a few right wingers.

  I only still have it to maintain contact with a small handful of people.

  Given why it was started, is anyone surprised by any of this?

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• zd9@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Of course facebook is, and has been, done for a long time. I think this says more about your interests than anything else. Mine doesn’t have a bunch of AI women, it’s a bunch of random shit and ads last time I checked.

  I mainly use it for neighborhood HOA groups and similar clubs, pickup soccer, etc.

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• Ramblingman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I use it for marketplace. It’s like a little buying and selling community in my area. I figure it’s good for the environment and I make a little cash so I guess Mark Zuckerberg can spy on me all he wants. Weirdo.

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