I’m in the process of switching my two communities to Matrix. It’s not bad from a user point of view, but running your own server is such an enormous pain in the ass. Like, way harder than it should be.
Discord faces backlash over age checks after data breach exposed 70,000 IDs
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Astertheprince@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
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hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Deconceptualist@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Mind elaborating a little? I have one community to switch but haven’t started at all yet.
hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
If you set up your community on an existing server, like Matrix.org, it’ll be really easy. And it’s pretty easy to join as an end user.
But if you have your own domain, and you want to host your own Matrix server (mine is matrix.port87.help), be prepared to spend at least a day trying to get everything to work. There are six different services you need to run:
- synapse
- postgres
- element
- coturn
- jwt
- livekit
And there’s no guide for just setting up everything easily. You have to follow several different guides that sometimes have conflicting information. Not all the guides are exactly comprehensive, too, so be prepared to read a lot of documentation. You’ll also need to forward a bunch of ports, and then a port range (thousands of ports, for coturn).
It’s very easy to mess something up, and sometimes it’s very hard to tell. For example, I was running federation on 8448, like you’re supposed to, but my server was advertising that federation was on 443. This caused some rooms on other servers to be unjoinable. It gave me a cryptic error message about it, and I had to read through a few Stack Overflow posts and GitHub issues to finally figure it out.
Synapse will complain about Postgres’ collation and encoding, and that’s quite difficult to fix. You have to add some arguments to the startup command to force the right encoding.
Synapse will also log fucking everything, so make sure to set log level to “ERROR”.
None of this is meant to scare you away from running your own Matrix server. If you want help, I’d even be willing to zip up all my docker compose files and send them to you. This is more meant to indicate that the Matrix team should focus on making this process easier.
eli@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sucks that there isn’t a one-size-fits-all alternative, yet.
Stoat doesn’t have enough features.
Matrix is confusing for the masses, plus there is so much conflicting information online of what home server do you join? You shouldn’t join matrix.org’s because of admin abuse? Element clients on mobile are meh.
TeamSpeak is a voice first platform.
For my situation it looks like I should move my wife and I to Signal and then my friend group to Stoat, but the recent server issues(prob due to influx of new users) has caused a bit of my friends to have a sour taste out of the gate…
Nothing is ready to replace Discord IMO. And that sucks. We need dedicated forums again, more wiki servers, and better chat applications.
Randelung@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There was a post here yesterday about a matrix frontend that looks like discord called cannonball. im’a try to get my cousin and his Minecraft friends on that.
eli@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ll have to try that. I saw Comet, but getting some errors and slowness compared to Element (classic)
Alb@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Done! Just deleted my Discord account!
Good riddance…
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Same, I was disappointed though that they never asked for a reason why
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah me too. Wanted to give peice of my mind. They did send email saying I have until 14th to change my mind. Fucking A didn’t even delete it like asked them to do.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Did so yesterday morning fuck Discord. Been using it for at least 10 years. Now this.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I am still confused that Discord got so popular. Glad I never built anything around it.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Deleted this very morning, goodest of bye’s.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Looks like my server is moving to stoat
QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
WOW. So Discord was already hacked back in October. I thought that as of yet, it was just a hypothetical. Yeah…I’m leaving Discord.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The issue I see here is alot of people have friends… Solve the discord problem by getting rid of them.
/s
If you’re willing to use discord just use zoom or Google for video/screen sharing it’s all going into the same database anyways.
Draconic_NEO_@chatgptjailbreak.tech 3 weeks ago
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PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Ah yes, truly a tech related comment
Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
They expect to lose a few users but will work hard to get users back?
No. Once I’m gone, I’m gone. Account deleted. You are not getting me back. Trust broken. Thank your dumbass shareholders for forcing you to do this shit
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
It’s okay. People who don’t care will keep paying and keep staying. And the people who stay will be even more likely to continue or buying or buy new things.