The far right is racist against Jews, but the conservative Christians think the Jews are the chosen people, how does that work out?
Revealed: How Substack makes money from hosting Nazi newsletters— Site takes a cut of subscriptions to content that promotes far-right ideology, white supremacy and antisemitism
Submitted 2 weeks ago by Beep@lemmus.org to technology@lemmy.world
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dan1101@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
gustofwind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The far right isn’t a monolith and has lots of different subgroups like anything else
cabbage@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
But the evangelical Christians want the Jews to trigger the rapture by fighting the final huge war in israel, and I imagine the antisemites are also fine with the Jews all being sent away to israel for then to be sent off to fight a senseless war to their deaths.
Somehow they managed to start off from different angles and both end up wanting Jews to die.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They sure seem to move as a monolith when it comes to systematically destroying the country in a well planned and organized manner like with project 2025 and obstruction of everything that isn’t tax breaks for the people who own everything, unlimited money for Israel, unlimited corporate subsidies and installing an oppressive mass surveillance state policed by literal Nazis
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
they are consistently a monolith in almost everything, the only difference certain skin colors and race.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Actually there’s a big MAGA civil war among its most popular figureheads that boils down to two camps:
Those that love Hitler
And those who love New Hitler ™️ (Netanyahu)
It started with Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes in a verbal back massage. Candice Owens also joined along in that camp too.
Now you have the Tucker-Candice camp at war with the Ben Shapiro camp, and Nick Fuentes attacking everyone because he’s a fucking moron even compared to the others.
alaphic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
… The Aristocrats!
(If anyone gets this reference I’ll be what scientists are calling “fucking surprised”)
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
It didn’t start there, but it came out into the open there. The Israeli camp in the US is very aggressive in trying to make the US like Israel and the occupied territories, to ghettoize the others here in this country.
To that end they had a vision for turning point usa, to turn it into a sort of hitler youth, and to police students and faculty at k12 to higher education. Kirk had his own vision, rejected theirs, and their board p[r]icks for his own. Then got shot with something that wasn’t a high powered 30 ought six rifle in a situation that does not fit the official story given, and his widow leading the organization has embraced the Israeli in the US faction’s vision, and condemned those blaming Israel’s faction for it. Don’t let the association with a few far right figures fool you though, it’s true. Those few far right figures have turned against the Israel faction, and while Israel may tell us surreptitiously to discount everything they say because they impugn their motives, the ones impugning have the worst motives in the world, Israel’s faction are the fucking devil.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Those Christians want to see a religious war happen in the Middle East since they believe it will trigger the return of Big J. And to make that happen the state of Israel needs to not only exist but be in perpetual state of animosity against its neighbors. Also both the zionists and these Christians believe that the Third Temple needs to be build on the place where the Second Temple once stood on Temple Mount. But that is where the Dome of the Rock mosque stands today. So building the Third Temple would trigger the religious war they desperately want to see happening.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
no they don’t. That is what they tell their people. Israel is a foot hold into the Arab countries. Any military needs to be able to deploy rapidly. First to the battle has strategic advantage and smaller less powerful armies have destroyed larger ones just with that advantage. Israel lets America control that area and gives intelligence that it wouldn’t have otherwise. Without Israel, they lose a major strategic advantage to controlling the Arab world. The Big J side is all woo woo. Not even sure I’ve seen anyone really say that. Almost all of America’s moves are to control territory that gives their military the ability to deploy rapidly and to control territory.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
they believe it will trigger the return of Big J
They were doing this very long game for decades. When the supposed return didn’t happen 26 years ago, they instead have to force their hand.
Now the bastards believe the table is ready for them.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fundamentalist christians are typically zionist because the existence of the state of Israel is necessary for the second coming of christ. It’s entirely self serving.
But that doesn’t automatically mean they’re pro-Jew 100% of the time. They are still often antisemitic in other contexts.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Plus they hate muslims at least as much or more than Jews, so the math still works out.
luthis@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
Dude you’re making a huge assumption that those people have a brain
mrdown@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
He is a troll
Allah@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
far right nazis love hiding behind antizionism
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Nazis hide behind zionism, blame antizionists for naziism, because its all projection and they have no respect for our intelligence, which may have been warranted in your case.
BillyCrystalMeth@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Casey Newton wrote about this a lot two years ago: platformer.news/why-platformer-is-leaving-substac…
Artisian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
… Don’t they take a cut of most subs?
Fmstrat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, and that’s exactly why the article is important. They can either hide behind a “we are just a vehicle for posters” or they can refuse to host the content. They are choosing the former.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Yes, and that’s exactly why the article is important.
Explain to us how subscriptions work like we’re idiots is important? Or was that common knowledge a breakthrough for you?
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Most subs aren’t comprised of almost exclusively hate speech.
deathbird@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
They take a cut of all paid subs.
LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have a substack and a ghost (an alternative that’s better in some ways and worse in others). The benefit to Substack is that growth on there is very possible with little participation in the social media like aspect they have, Notes. Ghost, meanwhile, has made growth incredibly difficult since they don’t have that social media feature and you need people to actually sign up for your site instead of just clicking subscribe. It’s kinda frustrating because I genuinely don’t want to support Substack in any way but I write about videogames for almost 150 subscribers with continued and consistent growth and leaving that would be…annoying. What I’ve ended up doing is simply refusing to do any paid subscriptions through Substack so they don’t get any money from me and instead have made a buy me a coffee and will eventually make a patreon.
There’s also just the reality right now that most of these types of places have some Nazis on them since Nazis are now just chilling out in the open as opposed to hiding in their basements like they used to. There’s only so much you can do if you want to be on the internet as a creator.
DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Is everyone really advocating for some substack CEO to start deplatforming people based on ideology? How quickly do you reckon that will be weaponized to deplatform any anti-zionist content? I’d take an ‘open for all’ framework over arbitrary deplatforming based on ideology every day of the week. Particularly considering the ‘new definition’ of anti-Semitism being adopted everywhere that equates most criticism of the state of Israel with anti-Semitism.
stressballs@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. Policies on hate speech could include automatic fact checking and community notes.
Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Substack is a very useful platform. Both in that you get all the email addresses of your subscriber base, so they don’t lock you in there, and the monetization they have set up.
The fediverse should target it to replicate much or all of its functionality. It is MORE than a mere blog. It has a big ecosystem one blog can’t replicate alone. The payment system would be particularly difficult to copy well.
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Use Ghost (or any other Substack alternatives that DOESN’T promote hatefulness and harassment)
deathbird@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Nazis can use Ghost too.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
But has Ghost ever sent out swastikas in push notifications?
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
So what other website people should use instead of Ghost or Substack?
nibbles@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Can’t you see what British Corporate Media (e g. Guardian) is trying to do?!
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
does this mean Kaitlyn borysenko is going to finally be deplarformed?
thoralf@discuss.familie-will.at 2 weeks ago
This is known for a long time already and the reason why I boycott Substack. If you publish there, you are supporting right wing propaganda. Find a different platform!
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Getting harder and harder to find non Nazi bars…
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t fully understand, TBH. Is it particularly hard to create a substack competitor? Why don’t we just… Do that
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That doesn’t make any sense. We all left these platforms. Like an exodus. How would that make it harder for these nazi’s to take over these platforms?
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Not how taking a cut of subscription revenue works. If you publish right wing propaganda, then maybe you have a point.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
How does utilizing and profiting from a service known to promote and profit extremist ideology not aid that service in the promotion thereof? By taking a portion of the profits, you direct traffic and money to the service, which is then directed to extremists. Seems pretty clearcut to me.