What does this have to do with security? Do they expect evil maid attacks on the PS5 people carry around to do their online banking on?
Why the PS5 ROM Leak Could be a Turning Point for Console Security
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ftbd@feddit.org 10 hours ago
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
That’s a particularly narrow view of what security means.
www.playstation.com/en-ca/accessories/#camerasrem…
Peripherals can be used for surveillance, gaining bank account details that way, or to dox content creators, kids, etc.
This is assuming this leak can pivot into malware for userspace in the console, I haven’t read yet.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I wonder if PS5 emulation would be less troublesome than PS3 due to it being closer to the regular PC iirc.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
That’s a lot of work to play the like two games that aren’t already on PC
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Some of those on PC are under Denuvo, are different versions than console releases, not to say PS5 plays PS4 games too.
One of my main gripes with PC releases is that they almost never translate offline co-op playability, from GTA San Andreas (yeah) to recent Borderlands titles.
Besides, I do love a chance to deny temporal/permanent exclusives and half-baked ports my money, not for I’d play them, but for Sony and the likes knowing this tactic is not working anymore.
Ah, and Bloodborne. I hated Dark Souls, but the drive of that game is wild.
Hond@piefed.social 1 day ago
I’m not particularly deep into the emulation scene or even a dev with actual knowledge. But from what i’ve read over the years X86 doesnt have to be a beneficial because the instruction set is ridiculously big and complex. While the chips are based off of PC hardware there still is a lot of custom fuckery going on which isnt publicly documented.
Prominent example is to look at the state of OG XBOX emulation vs PS2. Based on a Pentium 3 and some semi custom Nvidia GPU of that time and you would expect it to be perfectly emulateable. But even after almost 25 years xbox emulation is still in a rough spot. While PS2 emulation with its weird custom architecture thrives.
Widespread interest in a plattform is probably a far more important factor.
With that said PS4 emulation is already pretty mature considering how young the shad4 project is. Even though its also x86, but they’re using an approach more like WINE i think(!).
PS5 has almost no exclusives though. Like GT7, Astrobot aaand uh? I dont see put effort into it too soon.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
There has been attempts to do an emulation layer for Xbox One games on Windows with XWine1.
Will be interesting.
boaratio@lemmy.world 1 day ago
When I was in grad school, I had to take an Intel assembler class, and the manual for their x86 instructions was over 1000 pages. It’s insane.
pelya@lemmy.world 1 day ago
PS5 emulation is a long ways off, because you generally need 2X faster processor to emulate any console processor.
PS5 has the same x86-64 CPU architecture as PC, but you still need 2X faster graphics card to emulate those fancy raytracing units.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 1 day ago
We also only just recently got a capable PS4 emulator. I’d imagine it’ll be a decade or two before the PS5 can be emulated in any sense
KittyCat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not necessarily, you can do it with equivalent hardware power if you have a good translation layer like proton
Hond@piefed.social 1 day ago
I dont think you can put a general number on that. But even if you do 2x is way to slow. Try maybe atleast 5-10x.
You can emulate a SNES so accuratly that you need atleast 2,4ghz to run the emulator at all.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Would there still be a 2x multiplier? PS3 was weird, but does it translate to future Sony systems too?
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Blood born remastered PC port 2027?
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
One can wish
AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 12 hours ago
Is this a good moment to buy a cd reader for ps5 slim?
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I wonder if now is the time to get a PS5, under the assumption that ones produced in the future will have a different root key and thus be non-exploitable. I have a Xbox now but that platform is dead in the water. And Steam Machines will be hideously expense due to insane hardware prices.
joyjoy@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I think it’s a bit early to assume traditional consoles won’t be effected by hardware prices.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Another potential reason to buy a PS5 now, I guess?
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Been wondering the same. If the console gets opened up I’ll be rushing to get a PS5 to get one with old firmware that hasn’t had the exploit patched out.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Don’t forget to firewall it or you’ll get a patch anyways
eleijeep@piefed.social 1 day ago
Does anyone else get a certificate warning when visiting this site?
q5VtXnYt@infosec.pub 1 day ago
I did not get a warning
tabular@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How dare users have control of their own hardware!
TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Silly consumer, you don’t own anything! You’ll take your license and follow these terms.
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
If Cory Doctorow’s talk on Post US tech is accurate I suspect users may be able to take quite a bit of control back from corpos soon enough.
FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
tbf, most Consoles sold at a Loss, so Consoles would have to become more expensive if that wasn’t the case.
Just join the PC Masterrace
tabular@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I’d rather pay more money for a freer system but that option isn’t offered. Either I’m too niche or locking users down is more valuable than raw sale profit (or both).
I’ve not bought a console since they got internet and needed updates. Been Windows-free for a while too.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
The raised the price after market to make more money
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Not really anymore, these days consoles are sold at a profit