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Windows 11’s 2025 problems are getting impossible to ignore

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨handnutaschnitte@feddit.org⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/2025-has-been-an-awful-year-for-windows-11-with-infuriating-bugs-and-constant-unwanted-features

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  • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And looking like they are impossible to solve. It seems that the OS is more and more a black box of vibe coding and marketing wank as time passes.

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  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Windows recently “hung up” when opening “network and internet settings”, just a blank square.

    Also, blank square when opening “file explorer”.

    Both are working now; my point is I couldn’t accomplish basic tasks in the usual way, fundamentally basic settings. First time this has happened to me. I am old and have been using Windows since there were screensavers. That you would buy. For money. On a floppy disk.

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  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I was there since the first dos and windows emerged. I was a MS-enthusiast. Kinda. I have all titles and certificates MS offers, just for fun. I know what I’m doing.

    I hated 95, I hated vista, I hated win8…but 11? The only good thing is HDR and…err…yes. Everything else pisses me off so much. And wouldn’t it be due to aggressive anti-cheats I probably would’ve mained Linux and would just have the servers for the domain. I have 18 machines running and 15 are Linux already.

    I don’t understand why they have to fuck up so badly. The horrible crappy “new” Startmenu alone gives me STDs. Would be even survivable if they gave me the option to not use it. I absolutely despise changes I have to gulp down without options.

    Even the server versions…I loved winnt and everything up to 2019. Then that went downhill too.

    Ah, who cares. Win12 will be decent again, win13 the absolute total nightmare garbage that makes you long for having win11 back and will probably be the end of microsoft’s consumer market. So stupid fucking apple can take over the last remaining sheeples.

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    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Win12 will be decent again

      Windows 12 may stabilize a lot of the functional problems occurring in 11, but it will also have all of the new AI-powered end-user surveillance features they’re currently trying to implement fully integrated.

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      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Sure. That stuff will stick. And because everyone forcefully tries to include it everywhere, you can’t even blame them for wanting a piece of the cake. Even sucksuckgo now has an “AI”.

        I’d just wish for a simple opt-out outside of firewalling it hard.

        Also, I was just hoping they’d follow their shitty, good, shitty, good principle in releases 😐

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    • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Curious what was wrong with 95. Did you like 98 better?

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      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yes. I can’t nail the reasons after that time though. I think it was mostly the stability for me, but wouldn’t swear on it 😁

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  • Mrkawfee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I had Windows 11 on my Asus ROG Ally that I was too lazy to remove. Bitlocker locked the system randomly and would not accept the recovery key from my Microsoft Account.

    I installed Bazzite the next day.

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  • DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Windows is getting so bad, people are finally looking more to Linux

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  • Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Lol

    Lmao even

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  • leavemealone@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I am not Linux savvy at all but I was ready to switch for me gaming pc.

    Well I actually did for a month with nobara, which was great. What shocked me was it seemed much more modern than windows ! It took me some time to get how things worked and I could do everything I wanted with no command line. I still think it can be hard to get started at first to install some windows games/programs not on steam(everything is fantastic on that part), it could use a tutorial for newcomers… But overall, fantastic experience.

    Until I tried to use my thrustmaster wheel and I had problems (and I am not the only one it seems). Apart from that (didn’t try to use my flight stick or VR headset yet but maybe it could have been problematic too) it was absolutely great. I went back to win11 for now but with a very barebone ltsc version (no win store, no game bar, no ai, and no online account). It’s far from perfect and I’d rather be on Linux as I think it will be better in the long term.

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  • GaryGhost@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Why are the windows updates always so massive and resource intensive

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      AI.

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  • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s unusable and they vibe coded the entire thing.

    We had to switch back to windows 10 at work due to the issues we had with 11. Now my computer is permanently broken with many default applications that simply do not work and my IT department can’t figure it out.

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    • ranzispa@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Wow, this is astounding. I don’t love windows, but last time I used it it was at least reliable enough that you could work on it with little problems. If they lose that, then there’s little more value that windows still brings to the table, except software which is only developed for windows.

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  • PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Oh no. They’ll still ignore it. They don’t care.

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  • PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I switched to Manjaro and it’s like nothing has changed for the work I do now.

    At work we use windows and I don’t imagine that will ever go away. I don’t know enough about this stuff anyway, but I think there is to much work and risk involved to change.

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    • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The biggest problem is training all the employees to use the new system. Even if they’re still using the same programs, 80% will complain just because the Start Menu logo is different and the other 20% will complain about something only slightly less irrelevant. Then there’s the IT department having to change their workflows (their complaints are actually valid). Then there’s the downtime during the transition and the sunken costs of whatever support packages the company had hired previously… Yeah, transitioning a company to a new OS is hard.

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      • PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I work a a software company that mainly develops one online software and people are used to work with computers. But even here I feel like there is some strange invisible barrier.

        IT was trained to work on windows. What we do - everything works. The cost is there, calculated, it’s actually pretty small compared to everything else.

        Changing is just unimaginable for a company like that - to take this risk, and for so little upside.

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      • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Proper accounting would consider the costs of retraining against the existing vendor. After all, that’s vendor lock-in, which your vendor will use to raise prices…

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If Windows crosses a the threshold of “bug OEMs start shipping Linux,” what happens to windowscentral?

    Do they split the staff to linuxcentral? Winecentral?

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    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If Windows crosses a the threshold of “major OEMs start shipping Linux,”

      Does Valve count?

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I ignore them from Linux land. :)

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  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Been pretty happy with Linux for the past year or two.

    A few minor problems here and there. I was struggling to figure out how to adjust the screen brightness (pop!_os defaults). Found a command line tool to adjust gamma - my girlfriend was a little baffled. Then I realized I should just adjust the brightness on the display itself, on the hardware.

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  • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Give us back 7, with the 8.1 back end!

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  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Windows seems to be transitioning from being software you run to being an experience that Microsoft provides to you. The pattern of pushing new features to users unpredictably and without the option to refuse is clearly inappropriate in the first model but natural in the second. As a power user I strongly prefer the first model, but I recognize that most people these days might be ok with having their computer work like a website they access or an app they run on their phone - something they have no control over the state of.

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  • LostWanderer@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I've been reading about the problems that Windows 11 has had for years, from the safety of being on Linux for good after Recall was announced (and floundered like a fish out of water). I missed how just about any Linux Distro got out of my way and let me work in general peace. It let me know when updates were needed and waited until I decided to install them. Occasional donation asks (probably once or twice a year) to KDE, which I do not mind because they are open source and awesome, I donate due to their work in the Linux space! Sure, I've had occasional problems, but, there's been a solution for every issue I faced!

    Windows 11 problems are directed caused by Microsoft, until they shift their OS in the right direction, those fundamental issues will never be solved (not that I would ever willingly use anything Microsoft made again after this fiasco).

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  • Minimac@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    🤦🏻‍♂️

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  • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Is there real time support communities around wine? I have some software that doesn’t work. (X-tool Studio, not yet in WineHQ). 

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    • elfin8er@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It looks like winehq has a few IRC channels. Never tried any of them myself though: gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/IRC

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    • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Wine is honestly shit for most things outside of gaming. It looks like it works in Wine though.

      appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applica…

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      • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Unfortunately that is the previous iteration of the Xtool software

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ve been doing it since about 2009

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