Gratuitous “the”.
Finally, Common Ground...
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Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
yeah needs to match on both sides either “the americans and the chinese” or “americans and chinese” not this weird othering mix.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
To be fair, they’re not entirely equivalent. I wouldn’t bristle at all at being called “an American,” but I would never call someone “a Chinese.” In the plural form with a definite article, it doesn’t feel as bad, but I’d probably prefer to say “Chinese people,” whereas “American people” feels a little clunky, though it’s probably the best option if you want to keep both terms the same.
I don’t think this is necessarily a racist thing though, because I’d probably tend to say “the English/ french/ spanish” and “Guatemalans/ Nigerians/ Tibetans.” Demonyms are definitely a weird area of language that feels biased when you see a direct comparison though.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
OK, so I’m one of the original SJWs
I’m old and have a bit of a reputation for getting in the face of the ignorant, which isn’t always wise, but I’m a principled cunt
But there is a point where the little things don’t fucking matter when the person clearly doesn’t have any malicious intent, and only someone trying to be offended would have a problem
To whit, I was asking an indigenous friend whether they prefer “indigenous” or “aboriginal” when I’m speaking to them.
They said “the fact that you’re even asking means that you’re obviously not a part of the problem, so pull the stick out of your arse”
I suggest you do the same.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Perhaps your indigenous friends opinion isn’t as valuable as you think?
SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’m going to start using “the american”
Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
We aren’t bringing back “Chinamen” if that’s what you’re asking.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.
TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Chinaman is not the issue dude.
And please Asian American is the preferred nomenclature
evthestrike@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
What do you mean by the second sentence 🤨
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
This post is misinformation.
[Statistical Communiqué for 2024 on national economics by the National Bureau of Statistics of China] (www.stats.gov.cn/…/t20250228_1958822.html):
“In 2024, the per capita disposable income nationwide was 41,314 yuan, an increase of 5.3 percent over that of the previous year or a real increase of 5.1 percent after deducting price factors”
Tell me how growing your disposable income by 5% a year is “not being able to afford anything”
marcos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
41,314 yuan
So, in average they had 5k dollars to spend on everything that isn’t food and rent… And you are proposing they are rich?
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
When you can get a fucking delicious and nutritious bowl of noodles and vegetables for 5 yuan or a metro/bus ride for 3 yuan in the USA let me know.
TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How much money do you think the median American takes home these days with cost of living and suppressed wages? -2000 in credit card debt once the budget gets tallied?
shneancy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
isn’t china struggling with deflation nowadays, though? they can afford things perfectly well, they just don’t do it
(correct me if i’m wrong i know fuck all about economics)
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It‘s not going well for the average Chinese worker in recent years from what I‘ve heard. The pandemic and crumbling real estate market followed by countries diversifying their economies away from China (albeit slowly) and Trumps arbitrary trade war aren‘t good prospects for China. Xi Jinping‘s rhetoric in speeches went from „prosperity for all“ before the pandemic to „prosperity in moderation“ to essentially saying people shouldn‘t expect anything at all in his „eat bitter“ speech last year and that was before tariffs. Order books are empty and unemployment is rising just like it is in many places of the world right now to be honest. These are economically turbulent times and export economies are struggling when nobody can afford shit.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
There was a YouTuber I like who went to view some of the new state of the art factories and they were operating at 1/6 capacity due to very low demand. The world economic terrorism trump is doing is making it tough out there for every country.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This is my gripe with tankies. One of the most salient points of 1984:
“It was now impossible for any human being to prove by documentary evidence that the war with Eurasia had ever happened.”
“Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.”
All war is fake except the class war.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s been so fun seeing USians freak out at the remote prospect that they might have to live like people in other countries do. USians on Reddit spent the entire 2023 complaining about prices of Doordash delivery, and then they’re also irked that games cost 60$ now. But cooking at home for a couple days instead of ordering pizza again? Not an option. “Ooh we have to work all day, we don’t have time for cooking.” Well guess how people eat in other countries? They cook at home after work. Boo fucking hoo.
Soulg@ani.social 2 weeks ago
It’s very funny how consistently ignorant you people are while you’re putting on your “me smart and better than those silly Ameridumbs”
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, so ignorant, we even know how to cook. Unlike the enlightened USians who just have someone else cook for them every day and have yet another guy bring it.
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Eww that’s so 1980’s though
mech@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I can only afford Amazon’s Choice Jiekeshidd Best Hi Qaulity American Car Raise Excrement
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Needs text alternative.
In terms of average purchasing power for the bottom half of their populations
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Interesting graphs. China does have a lot of very poor provinces, even if high number out of official poverty levels. PPP income per capita is much higher in China than US and growing significantly.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
PPP national income per capita in USA > 3-fold that in China
where China beats USA is personal wealth of the less wealthy as mentioned before
economic inequality
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
China has many more socialized services and their income level is far less indicative of overall quality of life
It has honestly been a long time since I heard someone in the west suggest the chinese economy is struggling at all - i thought maybe something meaningful had happened in the last week or something that changed that picture
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
An interesting question is which of these 2 numbers is most important. The PPP income measurements could be flawed if the poorest half of Chinese have been able to accumulate double the wealth as poorest half of Americans.
Even if “attitudes towards savings” are different/a factor, being able to survive while hoping for the upward mobility that savings/wealth provides is more likely than not, a sign that poorer half of Chinese are better off than poorer half of Americans, despite the standard measures of PPP income.
Obnomus@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I think it’s everywhere in the world.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Let’s get them, boys! Haha just kidding. Am I? Yeah. Haha.
Ha.
Bababasti@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
This
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DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I wish the average people realized this instead of bickering about which of their country is superior.
chunes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wish people would stop disparaging others just because they happen to live in a particular country.
Guess what, a single person can’t control everything their country does. Get over it.
SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Watching over-personification continues to become the death of our species. We deserve an AI apocalypse in many ways at this point. maybe everyone will snap out of it before some theoretical grand tipping point towards certain “dystopian” outcomes ends up coming to pass, though probably not, especially at this rate which I have been seeing continue throughout this year
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The game’s called “Earthbound”, right?
Gonzako@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Tho, I don’t believe this is a dialogue from the game.
tflyghtz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes it is