The aws outage is so funny, I can see which companies are amazon scums.

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My schools entire assignment system is out today.

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Triumph@fedia.io ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You'd be hard pressed to find an online service that isn't associated with AWS in some way.

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- kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Sadly, there are some who don’t even know it, because they’re buying services from someone else that buys them from someone else that buys them from Amazon. So they’re currently wondering what the fuck is even going on, since they thought they weren’t using AWS.
  
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  - darvocet@infosec.pub ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Well those people are fucking idiots.
    
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- nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I’m pretty sure most of Azure (Microsoft), OCI (Oracle), and GCP (Google) have all been fine.
  
  Bezos is a craven beast but I don’t see many companies above with CEOs that I’d feel comfortable babysitting my teenage daughter
  
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  - Nighed@feddit.uk ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The company I work for is an Azure shop. However, our provider for customer OTP tokens uses AWS… So still in trouble.
    
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  - SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Once Larry Ellison owns TikTok he's going to be babysitting all the teenagers and a whole bunch of other people!
    
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  - Triumph@fedia.io ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Sure, but online services can certainly leverage multiple modules, from multiple companies, hosted in multiple places. So maybe your site mostly works fine, but a key aspect of it is broken.
    
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- DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Lemmy seemed fine, Reddit did not.
  
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  - nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    Lemmy seemed fine
    
    Federated, open source
    
    Reddit did not
    
    Centralized, corporate
    
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  - vegals@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Amen to that, good thing though. Got me to learn what Lemmy was. Apparently I’ve been under a rock.
    
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- higgsboson@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Walmart.com would work fine, as they are rabidly anti-Amazon, especially AWS.
  
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  - bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Can confirm, about 10 years ago, the company I worked for migrated to AWS, and I managed the transition. We planned everything meticulously so that there would be no downtime, and used it as excuse to fix a lot of tech debt. No one was supposed to even notice the cutover, and when we did it, I expected the only feedback to be that things seemed faster and were working as expected. A few hours later, we get a complaint from an Account Manager for Walmart that they can’t access the platform at all. There was a lot of confusion and back and forth, turns out their IT department had an allow list or something in the corporate DNS to not resolve to AWS owned IPs unless approved. We eventually got them to add our domain to their allowlist, but it seemed insane that they would spend the effort to implement and maintain that level of control.
    
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betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I brought down all my department’s services to take a day off and blame it on Amazon. Next year when negotiating a raise/budget increase, I’ll point to this incident and take credit for migrating us off AWS after six months of in-person training classes (either in places I haven’t visited or would like to see again) and another six months of hard work in the office (napping in the server room).

2026 is looking pretty good already and I definitely won’t regret tempting fate by saying that.

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- vegals@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Legendary.
  
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- mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  show us your nap setup!
  
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- HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It’s sad that none of these people you deal with don’t know what service they use or vendors they deal with? That sounds fantastic for you, scary for everyone else.
  
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slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The really stupid thing is that even if you weren’t in AWS east us 1 you were still boned because that is where AWS does it’s service authentication.

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- nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I love it when Cloud companies pretend there are “serverless” services that are “location-transparent”
  
  You know, they sell this crap to governments and have to follow compliance regimes like FedRAMP but yet… this happens
  
  But the only way to do this is to have a CSO willing to invest heavy in red-teaming – for attacks of every kind the team can brainstorm – and a CEO willing to spend the $$ and attention to get their recommendations implemented.
  
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Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I just want AWS, Azure, Google, & Cloudflare to go down at the same time.

And maybe stay down.

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- ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  If a nation wants to go to war with the US … this is how they do it, they just shut down one, two or all of these systems down and watch the country go crazy. It wouldn’t destroy the country, just disrupt it enough to make them go nuts and then do more things to them in other ways.
  
  It’s amazing when you think about, first the US invested in heavily defending and arming itself in the 60s, 70s and 80s … then it spent billions more in the 90s and 2000s to try to come up with ever more inventive ways to screw itself from the inside.
  
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  - JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    No. Everyone always focuses on the flashy stuff like datacenters but the truth is that the most vulnerable, overtaxed, and underfunded weak-spot for the United States is the electric grid.
    
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  - justsomeguy@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I feel like you got it backwards. Letting them run is doing more damage than turning them off would.
    
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  - Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    If the way someone goes to war with the US is by freeing us from the overly-centralized landlords of the Internet, maybe whoever they are isn't so bad.
    
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- Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Cloudflare in particular can fuck off and stay fucked off.
  
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WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
We all fund the devil pretending we don’t know.

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- fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Do I have any choice?
  
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taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Same, Canvas is perhaps the most used Learning Management System in the US and they apparently are entirely hosted on AWS East. The real kicker is I had my students midterm due date literally today for two classes. I’ve been swamped with panic emails (and I made clear my due dates aren’t even that important when there isn’t a national outage lol).

My head canon is someone wished for a miracle due date extension somewhere in the country and they monkey’s pawed AWS into non existence.

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- mlg@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I thought Canvas was self hosted? Or do they offer service instances too?
  
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  - taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I thought that too until today, it’s never clear until a quarter of the Internet is down randomly.
    
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  - roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I’m sure there’s a self hosted option but no way in hell it’s as popular as it is without being a turnkey solution. Most smaller districts wouldn’t touch anything self hosted with a 10 foot pole. They don’t have the resources.
    
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Zikeji@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I wouldn’t look at it that way. Even companies not leveraging AWS directly will be impacted.

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- 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Sounds like those companies are not properly looking at their supply chain then.
  
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- nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Especially Microsoft, Google, and Oracle, who are all at this very moment probably sending out sales droids in vast numbers
  
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  - bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    There’s so much vendor lock in with AWS, migrating to another provider over an outage even lasting 24h would be a tough sell. This isn’t unique to AWS either, each of the cloud vendors have their own lock in and their own problems. If you had the money you could run in multiple clouds, but for most businesses who were only running in a single region, I can’t imagine they’d choose this option.
    
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MrEff@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
EBSCO was down. Ask me how my dissertation writing progressed today…

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- a_person@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  How did your dissertation writing progress today?
  
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  - MrEff@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Half the articles I needed to read couldn’t be accessed due to aws. I figured I would grade assignments in the mean time, up until I learned e-learning was down as well. Nothing came back up till about 3.
    
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hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
My wife and I are at Disneyland today, and their site is down. xD

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popcornpizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
In my country, a lot of the non-traditional bank apps are still down, with millions of people having lost access to their money. Can’t even buy groceries, pay the bills, or anything.

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ohshit604@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
MS-365 next!

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corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

scums

Not a plural/countable word.

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- degen@midwest.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  *Amazon’s cums
  
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- Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  One scum. Two scums. Three scums. Four scums.
  
  Seems countable to me.
  
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  - nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    A summation of scums
    
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dumplingry@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
fr i cant believe clash royale is a part of that

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obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yep, I just love how one service provider goes down and way to much of the internet goes down with it.

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bochy992@lemmy.ml ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I haven’t been able to use Flickr for 10 hours. I’m so mad

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