I believe Waymo’s strategy has always been to shoot for level 5 autonomous driving and not bother with the others. Tesla not following that strategy has proven them correct.
Move Fast and Break Nothing | Waymo’s robotaxis are probably safer than ChatGPT.
Submitted 1 day ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to technology@lemmy.world
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melfie@lemy.lol 17 hours ago
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 58 minutes ago
From what I’ve seen, most issues with Waymo are that they are too careful, too rigid with laws and too easy to fool with things like traffic cones and lines of spray paint. Meanwhile Teslas speed past school buses mowing down children and crash in to walls and parked cars at highway speeds.
Imma take my chances with the car stuck in the middle of the road because someone plopped a traffic cone on the hood, thank you very much.
SulaymanF@lemmy.world 34 minutes ago
Waymo is currently level 4 autonomous driving. The difference between levels 4 and 5 is that level 4 is geofenced and level 5 is not. (And level 5 has no steering controls).
Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
But they didnt move fast at all. I saw people driving Waymo’a for years before I saw the first automated one hit the streets. They took their damn time which I am sure was expensive and worth it.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 19 hours ago
And a orange safer than a knive.
Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 day ago
LIDAR, baby!
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
lidar Deez nuts
gottem
Maeve@kbin.earth 1 day ago
They're mobile spyware belonging to an alphabet agency.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
This article is a little light on thesis, but legit.
Personally, I’d like to tie a vision of autonomous vehicles to a broad rethinking of transit and public ownership. What if training data was shared, so instead of allowing Google to create another monopoly we deliberately cultivated a diverse market? What if we designed roads to accommodate autonomous van pools and also bikes and more light vehicles?
We can dream better than this.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I for one believe we’re capable of building trains
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
autonomous van pools
We could even call them busses
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 10 hours ago
I love buses too, but a van pool is materially different. Buses travel fixed routes. A van pool can act as a shared taxi that shuttles people directly between points of immediate departure, transit stations, and final destinations.
glimse@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Years ago, Microsoft was doing some R&D on autonomous vehicles in a mock city built for it. Instead of each vehicle doing all of the processing, the fake city was built with wireless markers to GIVE the car the information. Like instead of having to “see” a stop sign, the stop sign told cars it was there.
It would be complicated and expensive to implement on a mass scale but I thought it was a really cool idea.
FatCrab@slrpnk.net 18 hours ago
Effectively, this has been an ongoing initiative across DoTs for a long while now. The issue is that it’s a hodgepodge approach baked piecemeal into various grants and other programs. But, yeah, digital, vendor agnostic, secure transit infrastructure is always on a lot of DOT folks’ minds.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
That test sounds like a model trainroad but for billionaires.
wewbull@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Safer than ChatGPT you say? Wow…
That isn’t a high bar.
beemikeoak@lemmynsfw.com 16 hours ago
Except for people just walking around getting irradiated at a high enough level to provide feedback for the taxi’s radar. I assume people will start getting cancer… The cancer levels might be funny like 98% on people’s left side or maybe only on people who walk on the sunny or shaded side of busy streets.
I’d give it a few years for the cancers to start showing up.
suigenerix@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
The sustained dose from a class 1 lidar is well below critical safety levels. You’re no more likely to get cancer from car lidar than you are from regular use of household LED lights. But sure, let’s just add lidar to the long list of things that people will irrationally scaremonger about.
bobbiguy2122@lemmynsfw.com 10 hours ago
They’re using lidar not radar, it doesn’t cause cancer, but prolonged exposure can damage your eyes because it’s basically just blasting IR rays 24/7
silence7@slrpnk.net 15 hours ago
Here’s the thing: wavelengths shorter than visible light cause cancer. Wavelengths longer…don’t. They’re using the long wavelengths.
beemikeoak@lemmynsfw.com 13 hours ago
Not exactly how that works. But go ahead.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
yea right. time will tell.
silence7@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
There is a very large safety difference between Waymo and Tesla robotaxis right now.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
teslas looked safe for a while though. imma take my time.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Move fast, break laws, escape repercussions.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 day ago
These days they call it “disrupting the market”. Same thing really.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 3 hours ago
10x!!!
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
Yeah but they didn’t move fast. autonomous road vehicles have been in development by one company or another for what, twenty years at least? It’s only in the last couple of years that they’ve started hitting the road.
suigenerix@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yep, the DARPA Grand Challenge of 2004 spurred the modern self-driving car era. But attempts at self driving cars were made as early as the 70s - earlier, depending on how you define autonomous driving. And Waymo has had driveless cars on roads since 2017.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That probably is not so comforting when one of them is in control of half a ton of metal, plastic and glass in public.
Kissaki@feddit.org 25 minutes ago
Baffling to see god mentioned as a possible cause.