Do you think people who illegal street race are ‘bad people’?
If they are doing their thing on a closed course, I have no problem. But if it is on public roads, then they are endangering others and that makes you a bad person.
Are Street Racers "bad people"?
Submitted 5 months ago by Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’ve had Windows machines since Windows 3.1, when it was time to start looking at buying a new machine to run Windows 11 I noped once I saw the Ads etc. etc.
This year I bought a Mac for the first time.
Bo7a@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Wrong thread, duder.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Not bad people but bad choices. But you can street race right if you close off the routes still illegal tho.
x00z@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Nope.
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Yes the are bad people. Why? Because they only care about their thrill over everything else. They cost everyone money when they inevitably have accidents. Even if they had to pay the cost of repairs for their car, they don’t pay all the other costs - police, emergency, road closure, road damage, etc. They willingly put others, innocent others, at life threatening risk. They never, ever drive as well and as in control as they think they do. Racing is fine but do it on a track that is meant for it. Then if you crash and maim or kill yourself, anyone else involved willingly agreed to be part of it.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yes. It puts other people - uninvolved, innocent people - in mortal danger. Also it puts other people’s property in danger. It’s selfish and ignorant.
stoly@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There are no “bad people” but plenty of people who do shitty things. Here are some of those that street racers do:
- They endanger themselves and others
- They make a lot of noise
- They pollute, scar, and mark the streets
So probably “yes” if you want to define it that way.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They are about the worst you can get in a car. For me, they are right next to those terrorist who drive into groups of people in order to kill them: they have no respect for other peoples lives.
Seleni@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Y’all are assholes who do asshole things.
Seriously why do y’all do this? You can rent time on tracks for cheap!
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There is nothing cheap about track days unless you mean drag racing. And even still, you know most people’s cars won’t pass tech inspection.
Seleni@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The one held in my city is pretty reasonable. And if they’re not passing inspections to race on a track then they shouldn’t be racing on the street either.
count_dongulus@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Sorry what? I couldn’t hear you because of the fucking
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
outside
ValarieLenin@midwest.social 5 months ago
I wish we had a week long national holiday where the Cannonball run was legal and you could raise hell all the way across America on I80.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The Purge, but for street racing?
ValarieLenin@midwest.social 5 months ago
Yes
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 months ago
No
If we didn’t want people to abuse their giant metal death machines then we shouldn’t let people have them in the first place
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
In my community, street racing seems to be the entertainment du jour for people with nothing better to do. I live about a half mile (800m) from a major roadway, and very often am jarred by the noise of people racing full tilt. There are a few people who even have modified their cars to be louder, and you can distinctly pick out the sound of their cars.
I’m a light sleeper, and these people will wake me up in the middle of the night with their ‘shotgun exhausts,’ racing down the street. They kill about 5 people a year. Earlier this year, a street race injured over a dozen people, and killed a kid.As a result, the city has re-timed the lights so that when traveling at normal speeds, traffic is stopped at every stoplight, which means that most drivers now just wontonly disregard speed limits to beat the light timing and not get trapped in a frustrating cycle where a 2-mile drive down the road takes upwards of 15 minutes instead of 5. This just causes the street racers to race later, when they can run the lights and wake everyone up. Plus the increase in speeding by normal drivers decreases safety on the road.
Both the direct and network effects of their stupidity are pretty significant.
So - yes. Street racers are bad people. They are callous, immature, and both actively and passively endanger other motorists. Also, I’m fucking tired, and my dogs are traumatized.jaemo@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Bad AND selfish. In generous quantities.
remon@ani.social 5 months ago
Of course. At the very least. Actually I have some other words for them.
Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 5 months ago
A lot of them are assholes, yeah. You can safely assume some of those people are also lawbreakers if they're already breaking a few dozen laws by doing stupid street racing. Probably drug dealers too. Doing something like illegal street racing, is like a criminal's side-hobby. You won't know what else they've done until they've gotten arrested.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Weirdly puritanical view. Drug dealers aren’t running like moonshiners.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Well, they do run like moonshiners, but that’s different from street racing for the fun of it.
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Ok but you guys are we really so sure that subjecting others to the coercion of a prison-industrial complex is justified when all they’re doing is following their instincts? How do we know that we’re not the ones who are actually bad people?
jaemo@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
A quick scan reveals I’ve never committed a vehicular homicide, and do not engage in activities that are statistically likely to improve the odds that I will commit a vehicular homicide. I’m fine with with jailing someone who’d risk everyone around them with death and dismemberment for their entertainment.
There is no such thing as an “instinct to drive dangerously”, it’s called “a choice”.
Annnnnd fuck that choice.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
but you guys are we really so sure that subjecting others to the coercion of a prison-industrial complex is justified when all they’re doing is following their instincts?
Assume we’re not talking desert highway street racing - or places that no one cares:
Their instincts could kill my kid. The prison industrial complex is the nicer response.
People who routinely behave in ways that endanger children are unaware of how many of the rest of us own a good shovel and know a spot to get rid of their body.
How do we know that we’re not the ones who are actually bad people?
Oh. The ethical implications are truly complex, but they don’t matter because we won’t agree to live with them. Child endangerment doesn’t routinely lead to deep ethical introspection. People tend to just go with the instincts that allowed children to survive over so many generations.
And yes, this is also why so many bad laws get passed “for the children”.
My advice for street racers: do it out of sight of any parents, and we’ll away from anywhere that children play.
YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Yes. There are race tracks. You’re pretending there are no secondary effects or bad consequences.
“Police say two of the victims were innocent bystanders who were killed when the alleged street racer struck their vehicle and it burst into flames …He said the couple leaves behind four kids — ages 10 to 16… “They are deceased because of street racing. We also have one of the drivers who was street racing, he also lost his life,” said Fort Worth Officer Buddy Calzada. “We just can’t understand why somebody would continue to street race at a high rate of speed at the risk of losing their life or taking the life of someone else.””
SuiXi3D@fedia.io 5 months ago
Road laws exist to make driving predictable. Breaking those laws makes you unpredictable, and thus a danger. If you want to race, find a track.
stoly@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This is an aspect of driving that people don’t get. It doesn’t necessarily matter WHAT the laws are–there are so many ways to drive all around the world. What matters is that everyone follows the same ones so that they know what to expect from others. If people routinely ignore one law in a region and that’s part of the expectation, then everyone is just fine. It’s that one person who doesn’t follow the norms that is dangerous.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
They will never go to a track. There are track days but that’s not racing. You can’t actually take your slammed 2002 Honda civic with the TEMU spoilers to race. Races are within controlled series with safety and technical requirements, as well as minimal driver training.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Uh…
You and I have visited very different speedways.
Where I come from, if the engine turns over, it is race eligible.
And if the engine doesn’t turn over, there’s a cool giant fire breathing robot we can still feed the car to.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Will you stfu already?
Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world 5 months ago
100% yes!
Strider@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Even needing to ask… I mean, there are no stupid questions and I know nothing about you, so, fair.
But imagine this. Streets are public transport paths with agreed upon rules. These rules are there for (likely more than but also) survival and safety.
So willfully ignoring that and racing there is risking the safety of others on purpose.
Now the answer should be clear.
twice_hatch@midwest.social 5 months ago
Sure
adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Are people with no moral compass, no imagination, a demonstrated lack of intelligence and a demonstrated lack of care for anyone but themselves bad people?
Do we even need to consider labeling them as such? The other descriptions of their behavior should be damning enough on their own, surely?
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
it turned out that there are, in fact, stupid questions…
P1nkman@lemmy.world 5 months ago
100% yes.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 5 months ago
Do you think murders are “bad people?”
chunes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yeah
hakkinen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
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