Similar to Mastodon’s spikes last year, it seems. Anyways, there is data to think about. Source
These are natural growing pains of any new platform. A lot of people will come over, check it out, and then go back to Reddit.
Lemmy is popular nowadays, yet is losing its active users
Submitted 1 year ago by LambLeeg@lemm.ee to fediverse@lemmy.world
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art@lemmy.world 1 year ago
VediusPollio@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m on the fence about sticking around. I don’t see myself going back to Reddit, so I’ll probably just leave and be productive.
sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 year ago
What do you miss? I use both, reddit obv has way more users so still some unique content. But I want Lemmy to improve so that’s where I am “investing” my efforts ☺️
Tesco@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not the person you replied to but personally I’d like to see some kind of random communities feature so I can discover new ones.
Most of the stuff I see is memes of US politics that I’m just not interested in.
Ninjajosh@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because every post is just Lemmy users jerking themselves off raving about how much cooler they are than Reddit.
It’s so fucking cringe I I can’t scroll more than 5 minutes without giving up.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
This comment is so ironic seeing as how I didn’t see a comment like you are saying besides yours. Come on. We’re all here together. Get over yourself.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Bruh all you’ve contributed so far are a couple snarky comments yourself. You’re not really in a position to be criticizing what others are posting. It’s a new site, you gotta grow the communities you want to see. If that’s not something you want to be part of then check back in a few months. You don’t like the programming, get up and change the channel.
Venomnik0@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Don’t go to c/memes. Thats all really. Block the community because thats where 99% of the circlejerk comes from (and app shaming somehow??)
Madbrad200@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t see that on my front-page. You need to curate your own experience on Lemmy just like you do on Reddit.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
It’s natural progression once initial hype wears off. As long we manage to keep core amount of users it should grow slowly over time.
quicksand@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I just swap between lemmy.world and lemm.ee whenever one of them goes down. They’re the first two options on the app I use lol
ahimsabjorn@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lol! Same here. Solid strategy that works.
kite@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think that app choice makes a difference, too. I would guess that most people on mobile picked one or two apps to try, and if their picks weren’t great (or the user was too impatient to wait for improvements) they called the whole experience shitty and bailed. Those of us committed to the move hung on and waited for our apps to get better.
In my case, I grabbed every ios app I could find and tried them all. Some were not so good, some were good and improving at a lightning rate. Living through those growing pains is worth it to me, especially when the improvements are crazy fast. I’m mostly using Memmy now, and I’m really happy with it. I only have one tiny, unimportant issue with it involving text selection, but it’s nothing compared to how good they’ve made this app so quickly. Memmy is a large part of why I stick around.
Uplink@programming.dev 1 year ago
I tried only Jerboa and that’s what I stuck with. It loads fast and has every feature I want. Compare that to the official Reddit app, which is a slog on even high end devices. Seriously, what are they doing that it loads SO SLOW?
Galaxyboy3598@lemm.ee 1 year ago
If you have the opportunity now, download Sync for reddit. It’s out now and it’s a wonderful experience!
andrefsp@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Here! I’m another active user!
Cinnamon3431@lemmy.world 1 year ago
same here ;)
Cinnamon3431@lemmy.world 1 year ago
annoying that only posts and comments count :/ I’m your classic lurker and up/downvoter
Badass_panda@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I keep forgetting you have to comment or post to be considered active
Default@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Upvotes don’t count?
Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe it’s just my feelings but conversations and participation is booming. I rather a small and active community than a millions of users who lurk.
sadreality@kbin.social 1 year ago
Communities are getting seeded so when next wave comes, we will be ready. Build decentralized economy won't happen over night.
ren@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s normal. Chill. Not like Threads that lost 80% of its active users.
sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 year ago
Especially for decentralized services. Threads or the latest google service will get shut down if it doesn’t attract billions in like two years.
These open source projects are run and used by some people as passion projects so you will probably not find Lemmy completely empty, even if it would largely fail in a traditional sense.
We’re stubborn in a way. Where would I go instead… I was here when only like 50 people were active ^^
ren@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Agreed! Less pressure or need to scale. Even if growth stopped today, we have millions of people to interact with!
HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sync’s already had over 10k downloads, but the ability to post (apart from comments) hasn’t yet been added. Once that happens I imagine there’ll be a decent spike.
Thatman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lemmy put my 1st post here
LollerCorleone@kbin.social 1 year ago
The number of users are just stabilising. This is expected after a sudden spike in users.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 year ago
How much is Threads down in DAU?
LollerCorleone@kbin.social 1 year ago
Their daily active users declined by 82 percent from its peak https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/threads-user-base-has-plummeted-more-than-80-metas-app-ended-july-with-just-8-million-daily-active-users-/articleshow/102435552.cms
brunchyvirus@kbin.social 1 year ago
I think a better comparison would be mastodon after the twitter acquisition, but I would agree everything always has a huge surge at first and then there is a drop.
BCat70@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The novelty has worn off. Contributions are going to fall to the baseline for this platform. Question is, is the Lemmy space going to expand from that point?
nihilist_hippie@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I will admit, I was hard into Lemmy at first, but then gradually slipped back into the Reddit habit. This is my first visit to the site in a few weeks.
youthinkyouknowme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I’ve been dipping on both. What gets me more there are niche stuff though.
areyouevenreal@lemmy.fmhy.net 1 year ago
A big issue was loosing all the .ml lemmy instances. I lost mine and had to create a new account. lemmy.ml is the only one that’s still up.
Zeth0s@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Can bot cleaning explain this?
kaotic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thats the case for most new platforms you get a surge of users and then some titer off and stop using the platform. But don’t look at the small dip look at the massive growth compared to a few months ago.
MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Could be something to do with frequent outages. Every now and then I will have error jump out. I then give up for a day and then try using tomorrow.
hark@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Growth is not always consistent.
TimD553@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
It needs a solid app like Apollo was for Reddit to help it keep active users.
QHC@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sync and a Infinity just launched…
woozlle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sync is what made me finally use Lemmy regularly.
TimD553@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Unfortunately those are android clients. Apollo was an iOS client. Voyager looks pretty good though…
art@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Liftoff is pretty slick, tho.
emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Connect is so good I’m surprised I don’t hear about it more.
nostradiel@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The problem with lemmy is that it’s not 100% stable. I like it more than Reddit but at least 20% of time lemmy is overloaded, down, not refreshing or else.
westyvw@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I haven’t had that problem at all. Maybe a month ago, but not its stable. On the other hand I suppose if might be relative to the instance you joined?
mayo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think people who’ve only ever known reddit/instagram/twitter will find it dull, but this is still a relatively active place with quality users and mods.
The bigger and more reddit-like it gets the harder it will be to moderate and the more expensive it will be to run. Things are fine right now.
ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
quality users
[citation needed].
mayo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Generally speaking anyway… Have you been to reddit lately? The comments in the subs I used to go to are a mess, unhinged.
ComputerSagtNein@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s because Reddit is still alive and well and Lemmy just doesn’t offer enough to be a serious alternative (yet)
ijeff@lemdro.id 1 year ago
This is how the Digg to Reddit migrations worked. Initial wave wasn’t a death blow but things will keep maturing on Lemmy. By the time Spez upsets people again on Reddit, we will likely see another big wave - hopefully moderating tools are improved enough by then.
Dave@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
Digg and Reddit were roughly equivalent platforms, it wasn’t a David and Goliath situation. Killing reddit will be a long hard road, but have we considered there are lots of people (maybe even most of them) that we would prefer to stay on reddit?
mojo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
This is normal. We’ve gotten a big enough surge where we have consistent content now. Lemmy was a bit rough when the migration started, but hopefully improvements will go a lot faster now. We’re definitely missing a lot of core features and polish still. But Lemmy is a long term social network that is grass roots. All we need to worry about is creating a sustainable community now, and polish up the experience to newcomers so we can sustain the next exodus and be more of a viable platform.
Strangle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As a new user, I kind of can’t get over the idea that bots just seem to scrape links and repost them here.
That seems to be most of the contributions to communities to me.
Burp@kbin.social 1 year ago
Unpopular opinion: bots might be a good thing for now.
I’m speaking from a growth perspective. Assuming users want to use social media to…socialize… you need active users and constant content. New social media platforms have a lack of users and content. Bots can bridge that gap until enough users are contributing and using the platform.
If you really think about it, it comes down to a platform using bots effectively. Let’s say the bots will only submit content when user submitted content falls below a threshold. Maybe it will auto generate threads for breaking news.
What if bots are used to ask questions and further conversations, like a social lubricant. Employed in a way to pull more useful information from users or to keep people engaged.
This all hinges on the ability for a bot to appear real.This sounds super fucked when you think about it. I’m not a fan of bot content. If you didn’t know it was a bot, what difference would it make? LLM might be able to make it engaging and natural.
FuzzChef@feddit.de 1 year ago
Imho that’s a horrible idea. A large part of content on the instance I’m on has become bots just reposting news articles without any own contribution, no discussion, nothing.
Nepenthe@kbin.social 1 year ago
The go-to counterpoint being that people come to social media to socialize with other humans. The moment another "human" hits me with "As an AI...." or are otherwise unmasked for any reason is the exact moment I lose a little bit of faith in the platform.
It's not enough faith to make me stop using it the first time or even the fifth, so long as the promise of almost always interacting with another person is dangled in front of me. But that little bit can't be regained and eventually it's going to hit zero and I will leave.
I already have chatbots if I want to talk to myself. Talking to the cat makes me feel less lonely than chatbots do, and given the choice between fedi forever remaining niche or retaining the bot "activity" of reddit....I'd just move to tildes.
The only halfway good argument is the use of a breaking news bot, but I've found I tend to get tired of those very fast for the rest same reason. They just make me sad and irritated, and I end up blocking them. If the news is interesting enough, I expect humans will spam it.
ExcessivelySalty@kbin.social 1 year ago
DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Bots are on every social media platforms.
Nepenthe@kbin.social 1 year ago
Doesn't make them good. When I see bots, I tend to block them pretty fast regardless of contribution, and my experience has been pretty damn nice here in very large part because the bot users are (to my knowledge) mostly or entirely dormant.
Nobody wants to interact with a known bot, or post where that's the main contributor. The bot is never going to engage with them, and it somehow feels worse than posting into the void.
Osirus@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Yeah cuz the shot is down constantly. I have 2 apps and one usually doesn’t work.
nl4real@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not surprising that the initial hype from the Reddit meltdown is wearing off, the question is how much momentum can be retained and how to attract users organically.
xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lurkers not counting probably has something to do with that.
mo_lave@reddthat.com 1 year ago
With the fediverse’s known for its opposition to infinite growth, this feels ironic