Submitted 1 year ago by LambLeeg@lemm.ee to fediverse@lemmy.world
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Similar to Mastodon’s spikes last year, it seems. Anyways, there is data to think about. Source
At least there’s something to do here. Mastodon almost always feels like a ghost town to me. I only really keep it on my home screen because I like the icon.
it can very much depend on your instance, do you look at the ‘all’ option and or do you just stay on your instance?
I originally thought it would display everything from every instance by default, but if it isn’t, then I don’t know why you would design a social media platform to work in a federated manner if only stuff from your instance is shown.
Still waiting for the ability to block instances as a user.
What are people saying to be calm for? Nobody way raising alarm
Doing my part…
The very gentle slope towards normalization is quite good, actually.
yeah shows genuine "stickiness"
For sure. That gentle decline will likely level out and begin a gentle incline soon
Lemmy feels, some days, like its bots all the way down. Just reddit repost bots everywhere.
I feel like this was a lot of lemm.ee for a while, which is why sunarus is clamping down on that
Its actually very good
Still better at retaining its users than Threads.
Still a massive increase compared to a few months ago.
To be expected. I like it but it’s still quite an immature platform overall. There’s lots to be done to make it easier for an average user.
I’ve been wondering what Lemmy was like until Jun 2023. Quite cozy I guess.
All/New was the only way you could get an entirely new feed a couple times a day.
There was still some lore and beefs between servers (like with wolfballz, a right wing community taken down for hatespeech, or hexbear that became incompatible and headed their own way). Feddit.de has a still a bunch of old federated servers cached that came into and went out of existence.
Between Lemmy.ca (I joined there in March) and Beehaw, there were 10 people posting regularly as in a handful of posts a day. Lemmy.ml had a mix of general news and user “Yogthos” posting pro-China news/propaganda.
It was a quiet but nice little place. The admins running the instance would often be quick to reply and give you detailed answers whenever you needed them. Now many have their plate full with moderation actions and keeping their site up.
!Programmerhumor@pawb.social was one of the first communities to me that seemed based off a Reddit subreddit theme.
We knew the change winds were coming, slowly at first in May, then suddenly exploded after May 30th. Beehaw grew from 700 users to 14000 in less than two weeks (during the time the Reddit protest was being organized). That was a crazy change for Fediverse people, new people everywhere, minor trolls popping here and there, Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works being born, admins working overtime to accept new members. All very exciting.
Second half of June there was some trouble. Beehaw defederated because they couldn’t keep up with moderating users from instances with open signup processes (and I suspect it was triggered by a troll making a hateful post about his dick on the LGBTQ sub).
Then there was a torrent of accounts made on some instances that originally had one or two users. They had no comments or posts and had a username with a random word and a bunch of numbers. All of a sudden the instances with the “most users” were these completely inactive instances.
CAPTCHA was better implemented, and dbzero helped create a filter to monitor and defederate instances with hugely disproportionate number of accounts compared to activity.
There’s your mini-history lesson for Lemmy.
Been posting on masto since lemmy.world keeps getting outages. New posts seem infrequent on the sorting algorithms. I’m sure once the hardware hiccups die down it will stabilize
I’m doing my part!
This is not a bad thing. Lurkers have always been a significant part of the user base in all social media.
Posting smith so I count as an active user again
Lurker mainly but looking to get more involved!
Interesting data considering the climbing daily post/comment(?) numbers I saw yesterday.
Thank fuck, I was worried my hosting bills were going to keep escalating… xD
A platform can always be improved, always. Lemmy is alpha software now and the growing problems we had in the beginning may have annoyed some users.
I think the most important thing is to keep making improvements to attract new users. I’m already finding the content infinitely better than it was a month ago.
Number of active users slightly dips after expontial growth, surely the platform is dying, lets run around in circles and scream that the sky is falling.
Why don't we, instead, sacrifice u/spez to the gods, so they have mercy of us?
We’ll see how it goes, hopefully it keeps growing, but a user loss seems to be quite common after the initial wave of new users for new platforms
Well, everybody kinda knows each other a little bit here, whereas on reddit unless you are one of those accounts nobody even bothers reading your username.
Lol
Lemmy didn’t take off like all my other moves and that’s ok. Can’t stand what Reddit stands for. I won’t ever contribute there but I’m forced to visit to get commentary I need to see on the war and other niche topics.
The robots have filled the content problem but not the commentary problem. And no, I don’t want bot commentary.
Interestingly I’ve actually seen comments go way up in the last month despite the user count going down.
I expect it is natural that there is a tipping point, where there is enough content that it becomes engaging for others. It’s like going to a house party. The first few people to arrive at the party awkwardly stand around and might leave early. Once there is the right number of people, the group dynamic shifts and the entire energy of the party is elevated. The Exodus brought a lot of curious visitors, but everyone was standing around. Now there’s engaging content and comments are growing. Some of those who stopped by in June will likely come back at some point if they left early – I did the same thing in the early days of Reddit. I think there’s been a large enough influx to kick things off and I expect things to continue to grow, but the active user count was probably inflated significantly over the past couple of months and will be resetting to more reasonable numbers.
Well I’m here and I like it. So there.
A good part of that can be explained by the low time resolution of the graph. 1 month.
Let’s assume 1 month ago, 100 new people signed up. Let’s say 20 of those made a comment or post, which is the requirement to be counted as an active user.
Many of those 100 didn’t stay for various reasons. Of the 20 ‘active’ users, only 15 were coming back the next day.
But the graph still counts 20 active users for a whole month. Only 1 month after a user last commented or posted, this user is no longer counted as ‘active’. So now we see a drop of -5 (all numbers made up).
I think it’s perfectly normal that not everyone who signs up makes a post or comment. And that not everyone who tries out something new will stick around the next day, or the next week.
With a large number of new signups, which we had in the last months, it can be expected that another a large number is only active for a short time. Due to the low resolution, we probably see what happened 1 month ago.
What I don’t get are the people who’d join new communities and just do nothing with them. Like, you’re the lifeblood of said community, it’s nothing unless you contribute to it. But they join them, see nothing or nobody and just abandon. It’s annoying and sad. It’s almost expectant that there must be things going on within the hour or it’s just best forgotten.
And that’s probably the only thing playing to Reddit’s advantage right now. Even if most of the content is shallow and empty with nothing useful being said, there’s always something running within minutes.
We don’t really need the users who used Lemmy as just a brief spot because they wanted to feel good about going elsewhere, knowing that they’ll succumb back to Reddit’s shit and they’ll be all defeatist again. Must be a masochistic thing.
You say this, but people have the right to be lurkers if they want. No one is forced to keep a community going.
Moving one over here was fairly hard for this reason. I admittedly should be keeping it up still, but where realizing I had nine whole subscribers made me really happy (there are tens of us!), realizing nobody was ever going to make a move of any sort even to comment and that I was going to continue carrying this entire community by myself has made me very discouraged.
I know most people are content to lurk while they look for something that's interesting enough to post/interact with. I do that too. But come on, guys. Don't do me like this.
I mentioned this in another thread but I think it’s regression to the mean
Maybe that’s because it’s a terrible platform full of self-important geeks and incels?
Why are you here then? Shoo
You are getting heavily down voted but honestly there is some truth to it, just may be phrased less extreme. There are too many people here who are really stuck in their techie bubble and seem to have little to no understanding of what the general population actually wants or likes or needs.
I’m just incompetent all around 💁
Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m active with comments, but not posts. That’s all I can offer.
salient_one@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 year ago
Me too. What’s your reason not to post? I don’t post much because I’m anxious about the possible low quality of my contributions.
Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I just have nothing I want to post. I was on reddit for 8 years and only made like 10 posts in total. Just can’t be arsed.