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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨cm0002@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • bleistift2@sopuli.xyz ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Relevant xkcd:

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  • Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Mice are excellent models for many diseases but not all. When possible we study cell culture, then mice, then humans and there are rigorous ethics committees that require justification for the study, we don’t just do these studies for no reason. Their metabolism and physiology is pretty similar to ours, which makes them useful to study inflammation, cancer, diabetes and other malignant/metabolic/genetic disorders. They have a 21 day gestation period and research mice are essentially all clones which eliminates genetic variability as a factor (making them excellent for reproducibility in a timely manner)

    some drawbacks include the spine, they’re haunched which makes it difficult to study something like scoliosis, we do this in zebrafish actually. Also I believe they have some mild immunological differences like ratio of circulating white cells and bone marrow differentials and minor differences in some proteins. Basically anyone doing these studies has years of training and really knows what they are doing, they would not be allowed to conduct them unless it was absolutely necessary to answer a specific question. Mouse work is a lot more complicated/interesting than this but I think I’ve made my point for now.

    Source: wrote a portion of my thesis on justification of using an animal model for obesity research, then an 8 year career in a pathology core/phenotyping lab.

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  • Jilanico@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Mice have the best healthcare.

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    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Er, yes but also this…

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      www.braintreesci.com/…/decapicones/

      Make injections and decapitation quicker and easier with Braintree Scientific’s DecapiCones. Tapered plastic film tubes provide quick and easy restraint of rats, mice, and other small animals. I.P. injections can be made directly through the film! DecapiCones restrain post-decapitation kicking and prevent personal contact with feces or urine. A unique dispenser holds DecapiCones open and ready for use. Simply hold the DecapiCone in one hand and introduce the animal with the other. Animals enter readily, heading for the breathing hole at the small end. Roll and squeeze the large end closed. They may be used repeatedly for injections and simply discarded when soiled. For decapitation, hold at the rear and insert the small end into the decapitator.

      They come in quantities of 200, in handy pre-loaded dispensers.

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      • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Can’t believe that name. Wow.

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      • Hadriscus@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Good god, this text is real

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      • WagnasT@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Man, my oldest kiddo is going into neuroscience, there are paid internship opportunities, which is awesome but I worry she’ll end up using something like these to snuff mice all day. I don’t think I could do that job.

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    • TheFogan@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Well they better, in california everything gives them cancer.

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Mice in LSD trials:

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    • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Relevant PBF comic

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Got to start somewhere. Can’t jump directly into human trials.

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    • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, yes you can, but it’s considered „inhumane“ and „unethical“

      …wikipedia.org/…/Unethical_human_experimentation

      (German „quotation marks“ for stylistic purposes)

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  • xep@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Those pesky ethics committees…

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  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The success rate in humans for something discovered in mice is about 1 in 100.

    So a lot of the scientific journalism presenting a mouse model as a major discovery that will revolutionise [X disease] is straight up bad faith clickbait.

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  • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Skaven using humans to develop the latest health care.

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  • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We’ll make mice immortal before going extinct…

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  • bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Vitro la Vida and Death and all his Friends

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