Fuck that. The future fucken sucks.
Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Internet
Submitted 2 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/age-verification-is-coming-for-the-whole-internet.html
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Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 months ago
I'm literally now playing ps2 games on my modbo chip ps2 slim.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Glad I got a decent Xbox 360 collection.
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I played through Black for the first time this year on my old Fat with a sata hdd. How great was that game? It felt a generation ahead of its time, especially using the higher res display mode and the component video.
If you don’t already have a good controller solution, I highly recommend the Brook Wingman. I’m using mine with a Dual Shock 3 for the analog buttons (gotta have them for Ace Combat), but it supports so many controllers.
TommySoda@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And as soon as that happens, I’m out. I’d rather just opt out of the modern internet. I already have to deal with my information getting leaked from various different services at least once every couple years it seems. I can change a credit card or an password, I can’t change my ID.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 2 months ago
We'll build our own Internet.
With black jack and...nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We have already done that. It’s called Dreddit and not even major governments can stop it.
TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We already have gemini. A text based internet protocol like gopher.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Black jack anddddd…
hansolo@lemmy.today 2 months ago
I’m literally going around trying out old school forum sites this week.
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Why do you assume that the old school forums are going to get exempted? They are going to get on the bus or get run over by it just like everywhere else. Government has already proven that they can, and will, regulate those forums.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Car forums are still alive and well because they’re a great repository of knowledge. There are plenty of computing forums too still.
PushButton@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I am already browsing the “old way”, since the mess with reddit…
I found out there is a forum for everything. It’s not centralized in one website, but it’s not that different than browsing /r/whatever you know.
More often than not, the discussions are more intelligent and on point too.
For my doom-scrolling needs, Lemmy does the job.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Let us know what you find. I’m ready to go back to the 90s/early 2000s internet. Golden era of the internet.
Wooki@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Only once every couple of years! Man you’ve got it good!!
commander@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We’re heading back to the dreams of the 90s with people running websites on non-standard ports. Take a performance and usability hit for the return of a more decentralized Internet. Probably still more usable than the early internet with all the lessons learned and tools available to modern developers. We can also bring back the term: web master
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
There are already far more people in raw numbers on various federated/non-commercial/self-hosted/indie web stuff than there ever were on the early web- it just takes a little effort to find it.
oozy7@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You can start here Marginalia - Indie Web Directory
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If this happens they should check ID at church too seeing as how children are much more likely to be abused or groomed by someone there.
zer0bitz@lemmy.world 2 months ago
See you guys in I2P.
BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Or ZeroNet
quant@leminal.space 2 months ago
Is that project still alive? Their git repo hasn’t been updated in years.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What a throwback. I was on there but then it stopped suddenly.
planish@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
ZeroNet
What’s up on ZeroNet these days?
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What’s I2P?
sexy_peach@feddit.org 2 months ago
It’s the name of the invisible Internet protocol.
It’s pretty much like tor, but more geared towards services hosted as hidden services. It doesn’t have a proper way to hide you if you want to visit “normal” websites.
But it has its own torrents and stuff :)
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If it comes to Lemmy, I quit. I’ll go touch grass all day, I don’t mind.
sexy_peach@feddit.org 2 months ago
I will move to freenet, i2p and tor
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Tor was a U.S. government supported service and guess who pulled the plug on it.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I don’t see how anybody could come for lemmy
InFerNo@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
If they threaten server admins with legal action based on the global user count of lemmy rather than their local server user count I’m sure plenty of owners will fold.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Lemmy is still very centralized, sure there are many servers and that takes care of the /u/spez problem but very little else, most topic generally have one big community and it’s on the one big server
You can go elsewhere, if you like speaking into the void and nobody even hearing you.
ashenone@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Good bye corporate internet. I won’t miss you
oozy7@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Remember guys, they cared about the kids and their online safety as soon as Israel started a genocide in Gaza and they lost the propaganda war. But they didn’t care at all for the past 20 years when Epstein and his buddies were running rampant.
MITM0@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is why the Dark-web exists.
- Tor
- I2P
- Yggdrasil
- LokiNet
- FreeNet
- ZeroNet
- GNUnet (In the distant future)
StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Freenet is now hyphanet, fyi.
Jarix@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s fucking ironic that this article is waiting new to register just to read it.
Can was please fucking stop needing accounts to exist online? So fucking dumb
yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 2 months ago
web.archive.org/…/age-verification-is-coming-for-…
Way Back Machine is your friend. I don’t visit sites directly anymore.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The real goal is to eliminate anonymity from the internet.
renrenPDX@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s about control. They can grant you access or revoke it based on your id.
The powers at be hate that they can’t control the narrative as well as they used to so this is their solution.
flandish@lemmy.world 2 months ago
will a headshot from “thispersondoesnotexist.com” work?
VonReposti@feddit.dk 2 months ago
The first picture I got was a boy, so no, I don’t think it’ll work every time.
jaykrown@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No it’s not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the “whole internet” is clickbait hyperbole.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 months ago
For some people “the whole internet” is like half a dozen websites.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
They mean most of the internet for most people Only the vast socially relevant parts of the internet
eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
It’s the Internet. There are internets, but just one Internet.
JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Australians will soon be subjected to mandatory age checks across the internet landscape, in what has been described as a huge and unprecedented change.
Search engines are next in line for the same controversial age-assurance technology behind the teen social media ban, and other parts of the internet are likely to follow suit.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 months ago
the simulatenous legislaiton from all countries seems very suspicious of a certain foreign adversary backing such motives. this isnt the first things like this happened. just a hunch.
queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
“The horrible things being done to me byy government must be the fault of evil foreigners.”
squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If by “foreign adversary” you mean the US, that might even be true.
Teknikal@eviltoast.org 2 months ago
I think we need to organise a massive campaign for people to cancel their entire Isp for at least a month, I’m betting all this would get reversed almost overnight.
Anything but that I fear they win and we all end up on the darknet.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hahaha
Good luck doing that.
People can’t even delay their non-essential shinies to make a statement against price gouging bullshit… You think they’re gonna willingly sacrifice something like internet? for a month?
TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean, wouldn’t lemmy qualify as darknet because it isn’t the top 10 websites? We should be growing the Federation anyways so I’m down for that. At least they won’t ban me for making Trump jokes.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Uh huh. People are addicted. I’d bet even the people with petabyte home media systems will go into withdrawal within picoseconds after not being able to get more more more more more more
NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not sure about what the norms are where you live, but most people in the US have to sign 1-year agreements for Internet service, and those who don’t typically either pay more or would pay before because they’re on a cheaper, older rate that is grandfathered in and is no longer offered by the Internet service provider.
System_below@lemmy.myserv.one 2 months ago
Nah the government would love for nobody to have access to the internet lol
AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I work from home. If I cancel my Internet connection, I can’t work.
UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They intend to tie a name to every keystroke
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Maybe the whole corporate internet. Unless we’re forced into aol style portals by the death of net neutrality i think most of the lemmy user base will be fine. Shout-out to /c/self selfhosted for those looking to get ahead of the permission gate.
DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Get your coat, we’re leaving.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Tor, and mesh networks. Every article brings me closer to going hard just for the lulz.
ard@lemmy.world 2 months ago
this is backwards. why can’t publishers mark pages as child-friendly and then browsers and operating systems can have a child-friendly mode that parents (or whoever the authoritarians are) can use. Laws can target people misusing the child-friendly mode.
sexy_peach@feddit.org 2 months ago
i2p lemmy is going to be great!
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 months ago
What sucks is that once these laws are in place repealing them will probably never happen. There are far too many people who will benefit financially from this to allow that to happen.
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Google already changed logged out YouTube to a single row of recommendations and a button to login on roku and Android shield when it used to look like the logged in version just a couple weeks ago. Probably the kick I needed to get off, mostly just using it for a couple smaller call-in/debate streamers I can switch to a podcast or other version.
victorz@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Article is paywalled.
Glytch@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Time to buy Death Stranding 2 I guess
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 2 months ago
Whever this happens, fuck this shit im out…
BigTrout75@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Can you have age verification and anomaminuity?
gigachad@piefed.social 2 months ago
Better start downloading the important documents now
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Corporate Internet
There, FTFY
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 months ago
Hell no. Just use decentralized apps, fediverse etc. It's not about "protecting" children. It's about full control and power. So don't give up.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
It’s about the information vacuum. Now every service will get your ID or photo, giving them both age and a whole sort of other metrics to build a profile on you. And yes, Lenny.ca doesn’t know that about me.
TheMonk@lemmings.world 2 months ago
I gotta be honest I thought I’d never be able to quit Reddit. But it was a lot easier when I just did it. If this shit becomes the norm, I’ll back out of a site first time they try that shit and block the site. Maybe I’ll just have to stop using the internet. Wouldn’t that be a net positive on my life. You made me do this, capitalism.
SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 2 months ago
To be fair, that’s not how it will work. The site and the identity verifier will be two different things, the verifier only attests that you are not underage and the site doesn’t get your identity.
Still harmful though, because you can be sure that there will be scamsites redirecting people to fake but real looking verifiers for blackmail and identity theft purposes.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 months ago
Yeah so what could possibly go wrong when every site you want to use has your ID and passport etc.
RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Sure but it would be trivial for a company to build profiles on people using public apps like Lemmy.
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There’s nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there’s nothing stopping them from “harmonizing” identity verification restrictions among other countries. They’ve already done it once with Intellectual Property law.
This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn’t new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.
It’s generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
If only there was a non-commercial, decentralized way of doing the same thing we are already doing. Perhaps make it free too. Hmmm
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’d need to decentralize the Internet itself. Good luck with that one…
Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Last time I checked, the p!rate bay still exists. In fact there are many of them. Because the website itself is open source. The same could be done with any other site. If one gets taken down, two more pop up in it’s place.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Time to self-host your own instances. Sites like yunohost try to make it easy.
belit_deg@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Also apps that don’t need servers. Switched to this for staying in touch with family p2p, works surprisingly well keet.io
deafboy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
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johntash@eviltoast.org 2 months ago
Do they publish their protocol or how it works anywhere? Their site didn’t seem to have much technical info at first glance
peripheralneuropathy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
All it takes is one snapshot of legislator’s IDs put online to poke a hole into this balloon.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Back when the govt here started incentivizing people to ask for receipts the Prime Minister’s fiscal ID was made public and the fucker starting having a lot of receipts in his name.