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Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Internet

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mesamunefire@piefed.social⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/age-verification-is-coming-for-the-whole-internet.html

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  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hell no. Just use decentralized apps, fediverse etc. It's not about "protecting" children. It's about full control and power. So don't give up.

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    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      decentralized apps, fediverse

      Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There’s nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there’s nothing stopping them from “harmonizing” identity verification restrictions among other countries. They’ve already done it once with Intellectual Property law.

      This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn’t new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.

      It’s generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.

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      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        If only there was a non-commercial, decentralized way of doing the same thing we are already doing. Perhaps make it free too. Hmmm

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      • Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world ⁨33⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        You’d need to decentralize the Internet itself. Good luck with that one…

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    • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s about the information vacuum. Now every service will get your ID or photo, giving them both age and a whole sort of other metrics to build a profile on you. And yes, Lenny.ca doesn’t know that about me.

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      • TheMonk@lemmings.world ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        I gotta be honest I thought I’d never be able to quit Reddit. But it was a lot easier when I just did it. If this shit becomes the norm, I’ll back out of a site first time they try that shit and block the site. Maybe I’ll just have to stop using the internet. Wouldn’t that be a net positive on my life. You made me do this, capitalism.

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      • RightEdofer@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Sure but it would be trivial for a company to build profiles on people using public apps like Lemmy.

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  • ashenone@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Good bye corporate internet. I won’t miss you

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  • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fuck that. The future fucken sucks.

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    • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I'm literally now playing ps2 games on my modbo chip ps2 slim.

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      • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Glad I got a decent Xbox 360 collection.

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  • TommySoda@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And as soon as that happens, I’m out. I’d rather just opt out of the modern internet. I already have to deal with my information getting leaked from various different services at least once every couple years it seems. I can change a credit card or an password, I can’t change my ID.

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    • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We'll build our own Internet.
      With black jack and...

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      • nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We have already done that. It’s called Dreddit and not even major governments can stop it.

        https://www.torproject.org/

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      • TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We already have gemini. A text based internet protocol like gopher.

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      • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Black jack anddddd…

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    • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m literally going around trying out old school forum sites this week.

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      • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨26⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Why do you assume that the old school forums are going to get exempted? They are going to get on the bus or get run over by it just like everywhere else. Government has already proven that they can, and will, regulate those forums.

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      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Car forums are still alive and well because they’re a great repository of knowledge. There are plenty of computing forums too still.

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      • PushButton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        I am already browsing the “old way”, since the mess with reddit…

        I found out there is a forum for everything. It’s not centralized in one website, but it’s not that different than browsing /r/whatever you know.

        More often than not, the discussions are more intelligent and on point too.

        For my doom-scrolling needs, Lemmy does the job.

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      • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Let us know what you find. I’m ready to go back to the 90s/early 2000s internet. Golden era of the internet.

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    • vodka@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Sneakernet is gonna be back with a vengeance

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      • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Among us nerds, I’m sure.

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  • commander@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We’re heading back to the dreams of the 90s with people running websites on non-standard ports. Take a performance and usability hit for the return of a more decentralized Internet. Probably still more usable than the early internet with all the lessons learned and tools available to modern developers. We can also bring back the term: web master

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    • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There are already far more people in raw numbers on various federated/non-commercial/self-hosted/indie web stuff than there ever were on the early web- it just takes a little effort to find it.

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  • zer0bitz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    See you guys in I2P.

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    • BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or ZeroNet

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  • whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Google already changed logged out YouTube to a single row of recommendations and a button to login on roku and Android shield when it used to look like the logged in version just a couple weeks ago. Probably the kick I needed to get off, mostly just using it for a couple smaller call-in/debate streamers I can switch to a podcast or other version.

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  • UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    They intend to tie a name to every keystroke

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  • balder1991@lemmy.world ⁨45⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    That won’t matter when everything becomes paywalled.

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  • flandish@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    will a headshot from “thispersondoesnotexist.com” work?

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    • VonReposti@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The first picture I got was a boy, so no, I don’t think it’ll work every time.

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  • WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Maybe the whole corporate internet. Unless we’re forced into aol style portals by the death of net neutrality i think most of the lemmy user base will be fine. Shout-out to /c/self selfhosted for those looking to get ahead of the permission gate.

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  • badbytes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I will cancel my subscription

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  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tor, and mesh networks. Every article brings me closer to going hard just for the lulz.

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    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ok, do any good mesh networks exist today that people actually use? I’d love to invest in some hardware and join some form of this.

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  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Lol no it isn’t.

    I will kill for this

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  • gigachad@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Better start downloading the important documents now

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  • Jaded99@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Good!! Lets jail all the pedos too

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  • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Article is paywalled.

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    • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There we go again. The internet is already broken.

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    • WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      archive.is/…/age-verification-is-coming-for-the-w…

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    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You must provide your age and DNA sample too

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    • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah I tried to get archive.org working with it but no dice.

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      • WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        archive.is/…/age-verification-is-coming-for-the-w…

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  • AJ1@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    oh no, the world will find out I’m 50. oh the shame, oh the horror.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Problem is, this isn’t about getting your age, it’s about identifying you online.

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    • Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And they will know what you look like. And with some data extrapolation where you are, where you go, your searches, what you’re into, your payment methods, where you live, your schedule, who you interact with, and the list goes on.

      This is one more data point for big brother to collect and share with the highest bidder, or to get leaked to people who do not have your best interests in mind.

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      • balder1991@lemmy.world ⁨32⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        And when some data is leaked, your id will be with it.

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    • tane69@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Dumbest possible response someone could’ve made. How have you made it to 50 without a handler?

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    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      50 and this naive?

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      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Plot twist: they’re 17 and covering their tracks

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  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Lol no

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