Submitted 7 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/age-verification-is-coming-for-the-whole-internet.html
Seems to me, there’s no real way to age verify people. This is pointless.
Want ID? Kids can just upload a fake one.
The app wants access to your phone’s camera, so it can use ai to assess your age? Well I don’t know for certain, but I’m 99.9% there’s probably a way to trick your phone into using a virtual camera, showing images of a middle-aged man.
What ever method of age verification, someone will figure out a way to trick it, and kids will be onto the trick very quickly.
Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Corporate Internet
There, FTFY
Yeah, probably not.
What a failure of an idea.
What sucks is that once these laws are in place repealing them will probably never happen. There are far too many people who will benefit financially from this to allow that to happen.
There are far too many people who will benefit financially from this to allow that to happen.
Orly? Can you give me a couple of examples?
I’m opposed to this trend myself, btw. But I just interpreted as a bit of pointless over regulation by a bunch of populist nanny-statists. You’re telling me there’s financial interests involved as well?
There are companies to store and process IDs on behalf on the sites. Also it will give a hell of a lot more information to marketers who will pay tons for it to sell you crap they think you need. They already have far too much information on everyone already, but this will give them even more.
They’re making it so that vigilante justice is the only form of justice the ruling class can receive.
Gotta show me the relevant RFC for BGP first.
No it’s not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the “whole internet” is clickbait hyperbole.
For some people “the whole internet” is like half a dozen websites.
I worked in tech support. For some people Facebook is the internet
It’s the Internet. There are internets, but just one Internet.
Australians will soon be subjected to mandatory age checks across the internet landscape, in what has been described as a huge and unprecedented change.
Search engines are next in line for the same controversial age-assurance technology behind the teen social media ban, and other parts of the internet are likely to follow suit.
They mean most of the internet for most people Only the vast socially relevant parts of the internet
elite nerds who use lemmy will be able to circumvent
if the snobs are fine, why care?
those people kvetching about how the endless September ruined everything will have their wish
this is backwards. why can’t publishers mark pages as child-friendly and then browsers and operating systems can have a child-friendly mode that parents (or whoever the authoritarians are) can use. Laws can target people misusing the child-friendly mode.
It’s not about actually protecting children. It’s about data.
The purpose is to protect the mainstream media.
They’re using children as human shields while they attack our human rights.
This is the correct answer. Notice that they have no compunction about punishing parents who secure gender-affirming care for their trans kids, but there has been zero discussion of holding parents responsible for their kids’ internet usage.
Far-right groups in the US have been crying “Big Brother” about everything for years because their whole plan has been to create a surveillance state where to gather information about dissenters. Every accusation is a confession with these people.
The real goal is to eliminate anonymity from the internet.
It’s about control. They can grant you access or revoke it based on your id.
The powers at be hate that they can’t control the narrative as well as they used to so this is their solution.
I think we need to organise a massive campaign for people to cancel their entire Isp for at least a month, I’m betting all this would get reversed almost overnight.
Anything but that I fear they win and we all end up on the darknet.
I work from home. If I cancel my Internet connection, I can’t work.
Hahaha
Good luck doing that.
People can’t even delay their non-essential shinies to make a statement against price gouging bullshit… You think they’re gonna willingly sacrifice something like internet? for a month?
Not sure about what the norms are where you live, but most people in the US have to sign 1-year agreements for Internet service, and those who don’t typically either pay more or would pay before because they’re on a cheaper, older rate that is grandfathered in and is no longer offered by the Internet service provider.
I pay for mine in cash, they don’t even know my name.
I mean, wouldn’t lemmy qualify as darknet because it isn’t the top 10 websites? We should be growing the Federation anyways so I’m down for that. At least they won’t ban me for making Trump jokes.
No, Darknet is just a website that’s not listed anywhere. Lemmy is listed in many places.
If it doesnt show up on page 2 it doesnt exist lol
I think thats more the deep web than the dark web 😄
Nah the government would love for nobody to have access to the internet lol
The US government created the internet
Uh huh. People are addicted. I’d bet even the people with petabyte home media systems will go into withdrawal within picoseconds after not being able to get more more more more more more
Better would be to reject sites like reddit. Make them suffer instead.
Does anyone vaguely remember those internet licenses from that Star Trek DS9 episode when they went back in time but it was the near future from the 80s perspective meaning that it’s actually today?
We’re going to have internet licenses soon
We’re going to have internet licenses soon
They’re called contracts with your ISP, they’ve been around for a while now.
It’s fucking ironic that this article is waiting new to register just to read it.
Can was please fucking stop needing accounts to exist online? So fucking dumb
Dunno why the advice was deleted, but thanks anyways
web.archive.org/…/age-verification-is-coming-for-…
Way Back Machine is your friend. I don’t visit sites directly anymore.
Remember guys, they cared about the kids and their online safety as soon as Israel started a genocide in Gaza and they lost the propaganda war. But they didn’t care at all for the past 20 years when Epstein and his buddies were running rampant.
No one needs the interet outside of work. The moment I’m forced to show my ID or get my face scanned, I’m done.
No one needs the internet outside of work.
As someone with a disability (and no car), the internet has played a massive role in allowing me to live independently, which in turn has a profoundly positive impact on my mental health. There are a wide variety of circumstances in which the internet has enhanced life experience - let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I’m sorry. I suppose I should have said “I don’t need the internet outside of work.”
I don’t know what they are thinking, but i protect my ID data more than i protect my credit card data.
Get your coat, we’re leaving.
The ruling class is eager to make it so the only way to fight back against them is with bullets.
They don’t know what they’re in for.
This is why the Dark-web exists.
Freenet is now hyphanet, fyi.
There’s fucking off, then there’s what the government can do. It’
Time to buy Death Stranding 2 I guess
Yes, the EU with their draconian and dystopian plans just go over our heads and do it.
All quiet and sneaky, no articles in the sold out press, only small specific outlets or sites that investigate privacy or tech.
Suppose true, then we’ll reduce the use of “the whole Internet”.
OK, we won’t, no tools yet.
I really love Briar, except it’s functionally not quite there yet, and the desktop kind of such application synchronized with neighboring ships, so to say, with a delay-tolerant Web alternative, would be good. Over various links and media.
Anyway, it’s not a technical problem, it’s a social problem. Not really different from ID checks on the streets and everywhere you go in the city, except much of the city got virtualized. And ID checks on the streets are automated by cameras everywhere and face recognition.
Social problems are resolved in the legal, social, protest, civil war fields.
ID checks on the streets and everywhere you go in the city, except much of the city got virtualized
Except on the internet, you can still create your own street with your own rules.
If you buy\rent a house (suppose) intended as, well, housing, and make a family diner there without registration, you will break the law.
They can easily do this with the Internet.
i2p lemmy is going to be great!
Whever this happens, fuck this shit im out…
If that isn’t already shorthand for “whenever, wherever, whatever” it should be.
If it comes to Lemmy, I quit. I’ll go touch grass all day, I don’t mind.
I don’t see how anybody could come for lemmy
Lemmy is still very centralized, sure there are many servers and that takes care of the /u/spez problem but very little else, most topic generally have one big community and it’s on the one big server
You can go elsewhere, if you like speaking into the void and nobody even hearing you.
If they threaten server admins with legal action based on the global user count of lemmy rather than their local server user count I’m sure plenty of owners will fold.
I will move to freenet, i2p and tor
Tor was a U.S. government supported service and guess who pulled the plug on it.
the simulatenous legislaiton from all countries seems very suspicious of a certain foreign adversary backing such motives. this isnt the first things like this happened. just a hunch.
If by “foreign adversary” you mean the US, that might even be true.
“The horrible things being done to me byy government must be the fault of evil foreigners.”
“We need to flood the zone, to overwhelm and burn out the activists!” - Steve Bannon
If this happens they should check ID at church too seeing as how children are much more likely to be abused or groomed by someone there.
Can you have age verification and anomaminuity?
Yes, but the legislation specifically rules out that technology. The purpose is to remove anonymity.
No.
Well, technically yes, but that’s not happening.
And that kinda sucks, because that could actually be useful. For instance, you could set up a forum for people above the age of 40 or whatever while still letting everyone post pseudonymousy. A third party public service that can blindly attest that a person is over a certain age could be a great and convenient thing. It’s difficult to imagine such a thing happening, though.
the fuck happened to you at the end there
Ha ha ha, 🤣
Sounds like they’re asking about anonymous amicable anuities, and the answer is no, those are regulated by the SEC (or whatever investment governing body in your area), so you can’t legally buy an anuity anonymously, even if it’s amicable.
That won’t matter when everything becomes paywalled.
Lol no it isn’t.
I will kill for this
Google already changed logged out YouTube to a single row of recommendations and a button to login on roku and Android shield when it used to look like the logged in version just a couple weeks ago. Probably the kick I needed to get off, mostly just using it for a couple smaller call-in/debate streamers I can switch to a podcast or other version.
logged out YouTube to a single row of recommendations and a button to login
I got this update on my smart TV, and I don't think Google realizes how much of an improvement it is. It's unintentionally the best thing the app has ever done.
Finally, no more fucking clickbait clutter all over the screen. I already just search for the channels I want to watch anyway. I love it.
BigTrout75@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s what I’m thinking. There goes the Internet.