Substack prompted a Nazi blog again

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨InfiniteHench@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.usermag.co/p/substack-sent-a-push-alert-promoting-nazi-white-supremacist-blog

Substack sent a push alert encouraging users to subscribe to a Nazi newsletter that claimed Jewish people are a sickness and that we must eradicate minorities to build a “White homeland.”

This has been a problem for years: Substack has a Nazi problem - The Atlantic

Substack won’t commit to removing Nazi content - TechCrunch

I don’t think this can be ignored anymore. If you’re on Substack, please consider one of its many fine alternatives. Plus, it’s easy to move these days. Wired wrote about just a few last year

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Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I cringe everytime someone’s like “subscribe to my Substack”. No, fuck off with your substack, everyone knows they’re nazi supporters, you’re complicit.

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- Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  No such thing as a Nazi supporter, my friend. That’s just a Nazi.
  
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RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
“I’m not a Nazi, but twenty bucks is twenty bucks.”

–Substack, probably

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- DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  “I’m also not not a Nazi”- Substack founders, definitely
  
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glorkon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
As a German it’s completely mind boggling to me that some societies tolerate an ideology that is responsible for plunging the world into its biggest humane catastrophe (so far), for the sake of free speech. Nazi ideology wants to kill free speech. If you truly want to protect free speech, you have to at least limit it to all the things that do not threaten it.

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- Maroon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Note that the largest Nazi groups today are in the “allied” nations that “won” WW2.
  
  I read a piece (can’t find the source now, sorry) that blamed this squarely on the lack of education and remorse given the colonial backdrop in which WW2 was fought.
  
  Most parts of the world view WW2 as very much a European war that was imposed on unwilling participants. The axis powers lost and Germany has since tried its best to reinvent itself while acknowledging its chequered past (check out: Vergangenheitsbewältigung), but the allied powers failed to recognise their colonial atrocities. For example, British history textbooks will loosely allude to the British empire saying that they were once a dominating global entity, but will make absolutely no mention of the numerous massacres and genocides for which they were responsible.
  
  When wars are framed as competitions rather than tragedies, you will see the emergence of false victors instead of acknowledging lost generations.
  
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  - floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Over the decades since WW2, the popular culture of the allied countries has typically portrayed Nazis as caricatured crazy monsters. They are treated as strange, other, and non-human. This seems to have thoroughly undermined people’s ability to recognize Nazism as a destructive force that lurks in people, whether they’re German or American or any other nationality. Any society has the potential to fall into this. But the unreflective complacency of the WW2 victors after defeating Nazis once has led to a complete lack of awareness that it’s an ongoing job to keep your society from falling prey to fascists.
    
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- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s amazing what you can accomplish when you successfully gut public education.
  
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  - goatmeal@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    what on earth are you talking about?? holocaust instruction is not “gutted,” it increases year over year. the people you imagine are doing this gutting of public education are consistently some of the most vicious advocates for increasing holocaust instruction.
    
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- simsalabim@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  And Nazis still get free public promotion via ARD Sommertalk 😔
  
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  - BenLeMan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Hey, at least the music was good.
    
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- Bubbey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Free speech means free speech. Otherwise you end up in a UK situation, where you can illegally enter without ID, but if you want to complain about someone illegally entering without ID you have to provide your ID to twitter
  
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- IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Germans saying this while their government is one of the biggest advocates for the ongoing genocide in Gaza will never not look stupid.
  
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- goatmeal@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  if we are being completely honest with ourselves, most people believe in free speech only in moderation. nazism is most certainly not the only ideology that sharply reduces free speech.
  
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Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Liberals: “Oh so everyone you disagree with is a nazi?”

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- KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Some of them, most are just assholes
  
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Paradox@lemdro.id ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Substack just annoying as can be anyway, with the constant spammy pop-ups about subscribed to my newsletter and whatever the hell else. Absolutely atrocious blogging platform

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- tisktisk@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Can't criticize unless an alternative is provided tho, can you?
  
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  - wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You absolutely can and should regardless.
    
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  - Paradox@lemdro.id ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Ghost, tumblr, WordPress, any of the self hosted SSGs out there.
    
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  - Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Lol, I can absolutely call a website (or argument) awful or absolutely moronic without providing an alternative.
    
    As a wise man once said, I don’t need to be a pilot to know a helicopter doesn’t belong in a tree.
    
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  - Guidy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Fucking watch me.
    
    Nazis bad. <- note the period that makes that a full sentence.
    
    Don’t use substack. Or Twitter.
    
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  - prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Maybe I’m mistaken, but couldn’t you just use like… Fucking SquareSpace or some shit, and just make a blog on your own site?
    
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  - iii@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Jekyll
    
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  - null@lemmy.nullspace.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Lol what? Are you saying Substack is the only blogging platform that exists?
    
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Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Wtf even is substack anyways?

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- _thisdot@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Kinda like Medium or WordPress (the .com variant). Gives you your own subdomain and lets you blog. Their policy is that they absolutely will not editorialise anything. It’s used by a lot of reputable good bloggers too
  
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- InfiniteHench@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Unfortunately popular newsletter service that also puts your issues online to look like a blog. Has a lot of startup capital behind it so they’ve been paying some of their largest writers on top of subscriber revenue.
  
  Big “marketplace of ideas” idiots who have allowed a lot of white supremacist and - as this and other situations exemplify - straight up Nazi content.
  
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obbeel@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I see a pattern here…

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datavoid@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I deleted substack back when I randomly got porn in a push notification. You’d think they would address this - I’m no expert, but this doesn’t seem good for them.

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- drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Oh no, how did you ever recover from that?
  
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  - datavoid@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m still having nightmares :(
    
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  - Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The fuck?
    
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Bubbey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
My only cursory knowledge about substack is that if someone has one they’re insufferable. Have yet to be wrong.

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individual@toast.ooo ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
what are the fine alternatives?

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- teolan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’ve heard good things about ghost.
  
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  - cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    also buttondown
    
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- lime@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  a blog
  
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- InfiniteHench@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I ended the post with a link to Wired about alternatives
  
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- forrcaho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Beehiiv is an option.
  
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PattyMcB@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Hey look at that… actual bad socialists. (As if they’re actual socialists)

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heliophane@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s a shame there are some people I like on there. I can live perfectly fine without ettingermentum though.

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cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
if i had a nickel for every time substack promoted a nazi blog.......

... i'd have a shitload of nickels.

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- xinit@lemmy.coffee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Enough to put them all in the toe of a sock and swing it at some Nazis.
  
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burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
dip dip dip just got a phone notif, Top Ten Things That Didn’t Happen But If They Did Happen It Was Good

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interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Is there a substack self-hosted replacement

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- InfiniteHench@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Ghost can be self-hosted. Even WordPress these days has newsletter and payment systems that sound fairly easy to drop in.
  
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- bigfondue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The main benefit of having a substack vs just running some blog software is that substack manages monetization/subscriptions for you. Hosting text-based content is very easy, but getting paid for it isn’t.
  
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  - Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yeah, and you just have to sell your soul to the Nazi platform so you can get paid easy.
    
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- tux0r@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Blogs?
  
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  - interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Is substack a list of blog website ?
    
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