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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨FundMECFS@quokk.au⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Does anyone want to talk about the “share with Facebook” and other similar social media links that track you?

    No?

    Cool. Cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool

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  • moseschrute@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Telling people to remove them isn’t very practical. Educating people is step 1, but step 2 is finding a browser extension or browser that scrubs the identifiers from URLs. You will inevitably forget to remove the tracker from the url if you do it manually.

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  • yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No no no no, keep em up, I can hack them and decrypt and do nasty things with that silly part of code link, to learn so much about our lovely friendship. And I promise I would never use that to harm You, really! hahahahahahahahaa

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    • yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh source from newsletters? emails? oh that means You actively are using email adres, do any big spam company want validated email adres they can spam on? yeah, sure, 0.30€ each! (afaik, black market value is 100-600€ per 1000 valid addresses, just searched)

      Tbh, unsure if si=Aa1Uc_fRHXC0ay85 or similars can be decrypted, or are just individual, one time identificators, never tried, but bet some do know how to pull value out of them.

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  • Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This tip really doesn’t let me down, turns around and desert me

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  • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t some browsers do this automatically?

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    • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I would assume there’s an extendion/add-on for than already

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      • matlag@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes, at least for Firefox:

        addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/clearurls/

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  • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “everything after the ? Symbol can be removed without issue” is a bold statement to make. Reminds me when the TV news had a specialist telling people to look at urls before clicking and check if it ends with “.php” as that would mean it is a virus.

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    • REDACTED@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Youtube.com/watch?v=[Video ID]

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    • SuluBeddu@feddit.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Difference being that the ? in URLs separates the resource from additional information

      So unless some website decides to identify the resource in those query field (for example search results pages in a web search), you are generally safe

      In any case, messaging apps will try to navigate to the site to create a caption for your message, and that can be a way to check if it works or not

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  • rosco385@lemmy.wtf ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve been using URL Check on Android to clean links of crap like this.

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    • umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s also Léon the URL Cleaner.

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  • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why is this a shitpost? It’s absolutely correct and factual.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It is correct and factual. Unfortunately it doesn’t really explain anything. There’s plenty of situations where you wouldn’t want to delete content because they are necessary for functionality.

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    • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Must be the giant red circles and mixed fonts

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  • Shape4985@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is also copy clean link option in firefox and brave

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  • RagingRobot@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are called query parameters and they are used for other things as well. So you can remove the ones you see similar to these but sometimes there might be important stuff you need to get the page to load in those parameters.

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    • bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      After removing them (or even if there was nothing to remove) I test out links I’m sending in a private browser window to check that they would work for other people.

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  • MissingInteger@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Add this URL Shortener filterlist to uBlock Origin.
    This removes the fast majority of these query parameters.

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    • Sarothazrom@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can I ask how do use this? Do I just copy/paste this into the “my filters” tab in uBlock? ;

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      • oatscoop@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Go to the “Filters” tab in the dashboard. At the bottom of the list click “Import” and paste the URL ( raw.githubusercontent.com/…/LegitimateURLShortene… ) in the box. Then click “Apply” to save it.

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    • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I honestly couldn’t determine if it was a typo or not, but it’s not “fast” but “vast majority.”

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      • Sidhean@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        my brain autocorrected it to “vast,” but I like “fast majority” as a phrase

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The only way to be safe and private online is to not be online.

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  • Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How about I just don’t use you tube? I should be ok.

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    • CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s on a lot of links

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      • Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It is and it should stop. I’m honestly almost to the point of leaving so much interneting behind so I can regain my skills at old school communication and information gathering. It must be so hard to do that now. It used to be so normal.

        I already have bonked all traditional social media including for my small business for reasons like this. I went back to posters and flyers and only promoting online solely in spaces like the fed. It’s been hard but worthwhile I feel and after only about a year I am again getting more traffic. It’s just a small income source but it’s been an interesting foray into change.

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  • NutWrench@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This. The question marks and ampersand in youtube URLs are separators and can include your entire playlist, as well. If you just want to share the video, then everything from the first ampersand onwards can go.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Legitimate concern, called URL tracking. There’s browser extensions for that.

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  • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Add made up data to those parameters. Like source=ericsschmidtspedoisland

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  • Muehe@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    PSA if you are worried about link parameters giving away where you came from, you should really be worried about HTTP Referrer headers, which are of course turned on by default in most browsers. Be advised turning them off may break some (parts of) certain websites, but most still work fine in my experience.

    In Firefox go to about:config page and set network.http.sendRefererHeader to 0.

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    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or change them to 127.0.0.1 and get rid of some web app firewalls and restrictions

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not everything after the ? can be removed. Obvious and well known example, YouTube videos use the video as part of the query parameters (on non shortened URLs). youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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    • hacktheegg@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fun fact, YouTube has backwards comparability for its video links, so youtube.com/w/dQw4w9WgXcQ will go to the same video (granted, it will change format to the up to date one, but it is one way to go to a yt video without URL arguments)

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      • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Even better: youtu.be/PtSGclOlVmg

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    • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I judge people based on whether they can understand youtube (which you should be changing to invidious or something else anyway) urls. It’s a useful and very short way to see if people have ever paid attention to repeated patterns. The moment I saw the t=XYs, I was amazed.

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  • Memetic@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not always nefarious.

    I work for a non-profit. Sometimes it’s helpful to understand the click rate on a mass message.

    We don’t provide data to third parties and use a self-hosted oss analytics platform.

    So I think folks should understand tracking and manage it but it’s not all bad. Just almost always bad. Really bad.

    Worse: a lot of links can’t be fixed or modified since they use click-through services to obscure the destination.

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    • Soulcreator@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m a web developer in a marketing department and agreed UTM tags aren’t really nefarious. We generally use them to track campaigns, and to see the effectiveness of our paid campaigns. (As in how much of a return on investment did we have, are people continuing to traverse the site after hitting the landing page, etc) That said those codes generally don’t give us any info about the user other than what parts of the site you are hitting, (which we can find out through other means anyway). There are tools out there which can give us a creepy amount of data about the users on the site, but UTMs aren’t it.

      Removing them when sending out links is good practice as you probably only really need a fraction of the characters in order to get to the site, so your links are cleaner, you look like less of an idiot, and ironically marketers will end up having cleaner data (I doubt you care about this, but it’s true.)

      That said, if you really want to prevent sites from getting your data when browsing turning off JavaScript in your browser would probably have the biggest impact.

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  • Tick_Dracy@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    On iOS / iPadOS , you can use a Siri Shortcut called Clean URLs.

    Just share the URL with the shortcut, through the share sheet option, and your clean url is automatically copied into the clipboard.

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  • gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I usually change the parameters to things like utm_source=yourmom, just for kicks.

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  • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Everything after the “?” symbol can be removed without issue

    youtube.com/watch?v=XfELJU1mRMg >>> youtube.com/watch

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  • artiman@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    this isn't a shitpost this community is being dragged through the mud by non-shitposts

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    • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s shitty advice masquerading as something useful and/or insightful.

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    • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Actually, it’s a a bit of a shitpost. Anything after the ‘?’ is an argument for the html request. Can and is used for tracking, but is also used for website functionality.

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      • Master167@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        IMO, any developer who uses URL parameters for required functionality is short sighted. They should use the path as required parameters.

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  • Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Time to put new privacy laws in place or force politicans to do it

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  • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Check out this cool video

    www.youtube.com/watch?

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  • Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are URL shortener Apps on F-Droid. Simple share the link to this app and get a short link without this privacy mess.

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    • smiletolerantly@awful.systems ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Make sure you choose a proper open source one, else the app might collect data as well…

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    • CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Are you talking about this app?

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      • Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes

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  • gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I did not know what those were for before seeing this but I remeber seeing “source=chat_gpt” next to a link to a source in a news article and thought that it was odd.

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    • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That just means that the idiot writing the article got the link provided to them by chatgpt during their research. All it does is tell the website that you visited that you followed a link from the given source. They can aggregate the data from all visitors for metrics, to see where they lag behind in exposure. But they can’t associate users to each other with this method.

      Unlike the “igsh” tag in instagram post/reel urls, which when opened, will immediately create a popup stating “join <user that shared the URL with you> on Instagram today!”

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is kinda true but also kinda fear mongering. UTM parameters are just to track where you clicked the link from, and don’t contain anything about you personally.

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    • ericatty@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As someone who has link tracking in our business, yes, some of the stuff after the ? isn’t nefarious tracking, like the utm mentioned above.

      All the “list-unsubscribe” options you may have noticed starting about a year ago, are actually required to be there for any company that sends out any kind of email newsletter over a certain threshold. (Lists around 5k or more)

      If the unsubscribe links aren’t there, with the required url-encoded parameters (along with some other requirements with DNS) the email will not be delivered to any of the majors (google, yahoo/aol, hotmail, big ISPs) and we get blocked.

      The unsubscribe parameters are being tracked, yes, but we have to have them so we can unsubscribe you “in one click” We are not allowed to require you to sign in to unsubscribe you. (Not that we ever did that, but now there must be a one-click option.)

      (We used to just be two clicks to unsubscribe off an encoded link. Click -> this you? If yes, click -> you are now unsubscribed. Or sign-in and manage subscriptions without an encoded link.)

      Again, the point is that not all url encoded tracking is nefarious. Some of it is now required to try and minimize spam and nefarious emails.

      Source: …postmark-testing.com/…/2024-gmail-yahoo-email-re…

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  • nieminen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I use an app called “Leon URL Cleaner” from F-Droid. Does a really good job removing tracking params, and only adds one extra step to sharing a URL.

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    • speq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s also URLCheck:

      f-droid.org/packages/com.trianguloy.urlchecker

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  • dharmacurious@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Most of my internetin’ is done on mobile, because I’m very rarely at my desk, and when I am, I’m normally working on school. Are there any solutions to handling this easily on mobile without having to manually erase part of the pasted link when I go to send it to someone? A few people have mentioned that’s it’s not 100% guaranteed that the anything after ? Is worthless, so I don’t know how to ensure I’m not breaking a link

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    • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Firefox mobile has plenty of add-ons that will just remove it for you

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    • nieminen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I posted a comment above, but if you’re android, check out leon. Super easy to use.

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