Submitted 1 year ago by LemmyBe@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
i’m doing it because I want to make the fediverse more friendly place, in hopes of making it more welcoming for new users, and the nicer place in general. But I wonder how much is just less bots.
Fuck off you cunt. My upvotes are for ass and titties only. :-)
Yes its nice when a fake internet point is really a fake internet point.
I got a “who asked” amongst more productive banter this morning and I actually laughed and said “thank god, people can talk without a filter”.
I’m okay with some stuff being toxic. Reddits moderation rules were so restricting that you couldn’t have a genuine conversation or sometimes just post something that was clearly originally intended to be posted to a sub; moderation was too tight.
Freedom of speech shouldn’t be inconvenienced by a fedora wearing subreddit mod. And if one Lemmy instance does, there’s others you can enjoy!
Ok but who asked?
Curses! Foiled again!
Yah, what this cunt says.
I’ve made some dumb comments and posts and no one has yelled at me yet. It’s really nice.
Am still having a good weekend
Life nor Internet (Lemmy) has got me down yet
As someone who holds some opinions which don’t directly fit into the mainstream on Lemmy, I actually feel like people have been more aggressive to me when I share my opinion here when compared to Reddit. I will admit, I think I was also too aggressive in some of my interactions due to this unfortunately.
It’s tough because I hate Reddit for ideological reasons, and have been hoping for a viable alternative for a while, but now that it’s here I feel like it might just not be for me.
Hopefully as it grows it will become better in this regard.
This is a very leftist online space. And proudly so. And it’s not like there’s a lack of disagreement among leftists. But any vagueries about having “controversial” opinions is gonna come across as fascist dogwhistling or at best liberal snobbery.
If you truly want a “leftist” online space lacking disagreement, you’re just asking to be put in an echo chamber. Differing opinions are important and should be encouraged - hell this is one of the core principals of democracy.
The only opinions I don’t respect are those advocating violence or violating basic human rights.
I hate fascism and I honestly don’t know what liberal means in this context since “leftists” seem to use it as a catchall term often.
There are some, let’s say fringe, political beliefs on some of the instances. I’ve just learned to keep out of their spaces and the arguments are easy to avoid.
There are some IMO extreme political beliefs which seem to be considered valid on mainstream instances and communities.
I’ve seen, multiple times, people openly supporting terrorism as a solution to oppression/occupation on Lemmy since I joined.
There are some IMO extreme political beliefs which seem to be considered valid on mainstream instances and communities.
I’ve seen, multiple times, people openly supporting terrorism as a solution to oppression/occupation on Lemmy since I joined.
There are some IMO extreme political beliefs which seem to be considered valid on mainstream instances and communities.
I’ve seen, multiple times, people openly supporting terrorism as a solution to oppression/occupation on Lemmy since I joined.
There are some IMO extreme political beliefs which seem to be considered valid on mainstream instances and communities.
I’ve seen, multiple times, people openly supporting terrorism as a solution to oppression/occupation on Lemmy since I joined.
As someone who shares your desire for a better alternative, I find it disheartening to witness aggression. Although my experience with Lemmy was similar to Reddit (perhaps it’s just a matter of how I express myself or the communities I engage with), I genuinely hope you can also find comfort in Lemmy. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Well the basic rule of persuation is to state what you agree with already, I assume an arguement can be productive and civil if you follow a similar pattern. State your points of agreement, then the diagreement.
I don’t try to argue though, usually.
I just share my opinion and people start arguing with me.
Tbh I never really commented or upvoted anything on reddit. I was always a lurker but when I started with the fediverse I feel like I can actually interact for some reason
Same! I used Infinity for Reddit without an account for a few years until the whole API controversy. The fediverse is more niche and caters more to my interests, so kinda glad that all happened tbh.
The cordiality of a mob is inversely proportional to its size.
It seemed like a honeymoon for the first week or two, like everyone was in a good mood and would upvote whatever, and overlook things they disagreed or disapproved of. My least favorite reddit interactions were posting well intentioned, detailed comments, then it gets shadow-deleted by a mod or get a response like “no it isn’t lmao”. That entire thing of using “lol” or “lmao” to laugh at someone is really quite rude, like, it would be very confrontational to do that to someone in person.
Not sure about that, it was better a couple of months ago. Now I see an increase in negative and hostile content. Sadly.
Yeah I hope it’s just users who are still used to Reddit that will eventually calm down, but I can see it going in either direction
There is no concept of karma, or karma whoring here. And no reward system or reason to farm karma to pretend to be a RealLiveHumanPerson with feelings.
not yet anyways.
It seems that there is, and some people are again caring about that number. If I had written Lemmy i would remove any karma shit.
There is.
There is? I didn’t pay attention to my karma on Reddit but I wouldn’t even know how to find it out on Lemmy!
I personally like looking at the number of posts and comments I’ve made rather than karma (I can’t even see karma tbh, but iirc some apps can display it, it must be available under the hood somehow or the app is just calculating it idk).
I think the exodus from Reddit is also a factor here. People are united in a cause of finding a new home.
There is also no karma whore. So even if you say something offending to some, who cares?
you are penis
Then you haven’t posted enough and/or love the “herd mentality” – it’s my 1 month in and two randoms massively downvoted me with multiple accounts.
In my experience it depends strongly on the comunity. Those meme comunitys are on their way to become reddit two, command wise. But most communities that are made to have a discussion have been realy nice so far.
Um…it actually happened on non-“meme communities”. Can’t mention their names for obvious reasons, but yeah.
Tbh these instances feel alot more like an echo chamber than most subreddits did
tbh I was misusing upvotes on Reddit to save interesting posts, while the proper save function was instead used for NSFW ones. Here there’s nothing to keep track of my upvotes, so I can use them more freely :3
You are all wonderful humain beings!
It that a Firefox? It’s so cute
It is hit or miss. I just got into a fight with a MAGA troll claiming that wikipedia vote totals are completely made up. I thought I wouldn’t have to deal with stupidity like that on lemmy.
I had a pretty curated feed on reddit where I basically got rid of most subs that allowed toxicity. So I’ve actually noticed more toxicity since the switch. But I’ve also noticed that posts have more of a personal vibe hear that I’m all for.
I’ve generally found that avoiding the biggest crowds seems to also avoid some (though not all) of the worst behavior. More specialized subreddits, communities, and magazines tend to be more chill, and also more focused on their topics.
Those people are like sand. It’s coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
Do you know that the earth is flat?
Hogwash you son of a bitch! Now, take my upvote.
BADABAMM BADABAMM
You are being watched. FAANG has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know, because… I built it. I designed the machine to detect spikes of dopamine but it sees everything. Violent emotions involving ordinary people. People like you. Emotions upper management considered irrelevant. They wouldn’t act so I decided I would. But I needed a partner. Someone without the spine to intervene. Hunted by privacy advocates, we work in secret. You’ll never find us. But lurker or contributor, if we can rile you up, we’ll find you.
I recognise some of that, what was the name of that series again? - just so I can binge watch it again. It was relevant way before it’s time
Pissed off people are more likely to interact. And we dont have it here yet.
I am trying to be nice and polite here. Makes a more inclusive place for us to share content and information.
I totally agree. Folks are much nicer here and I feel more free to make a comment, no matter how mundane. I’m commenting and posting more than I ever would before because no one beats me up here. I still have the fear of posting anything because of the backlash, but I think that’s ptsd from the other site and I’m getting over it slowly but surely. I love this place.
Going to add some negativity here and sorry in advance. I’m hoping I’m being more sensible than mean. The biggest problem with lemmy for my personal experience is that there are are too many posts about itself. We have enough users to thrive as something good. Let’s just do it and enjoy moving on from reddit. If new people come here and all they see are posts about lemmy, fediverse, reddit, they will feel like it’s one note, but I feel like we all have more to offer. I think when there’s some news or something that impacts the platform it’s great to discuss. (Or if there are discussions around actual development and stuff.) In my opinion, there are just far too many. “Lemmy people are less toxic”, “isn’t it nice here”, “reddit is not as good”, “lemmy just feels fresh”,“loving lemmy so far vs x”. clogging the feed with low quality content. I just feel there are already enough existing posts people can comment on instead of starting new posts.
I feel like that will even itself out in time. With a huge influx of Redditors, comparing the services is going to be a hot topic for awhile. The communities need to settle and the people who will stay will stay. Over time, it’ll be less self-referential and more original content I think.
I know right! I often get more than 5 upvotes here, while on Reddit most of my comments would have only gotten 2, maybe 3.
It’s almost like all the nice people with actual moral compasses have ditched Reddit for the likes of Lemmy, Tildes and Kbin. Reddit has been left to become a toxic shitshow.
Disagreement and acceptance of controversial but well thought out opinions is really good here. I’ve seen it sour a little over the last few days, but considering just how contentious the overall topics themselves were, that’s perhaps reasonable.
What I can say with certainty however is that even those I have most vehemently disagreed with seem like good people at the end of the day. They aren’t bigoted trash nor do they delight in people’s suffering. If I had interacted with them in another space, I couldn’t have guessed we’d disagree so bitterly.
It’s refreshing. On Reddit, the person/bot/shill would just consistently be awful. Here, I can have intense arguments with people about global issues but I can also see myself grabbing a casual beer with them afterwards.
I also have that perception. When people disagree, instead of becoming toxic, they stay oddly cool and nice to each other here. Let´s hope this lasts when more and more reddit users join …
Typically, yes, but the brigaders have found their way here, so don't expect it to last long.
What brigaders? I genuenly want to know since i have seen a small amount of posts that reek of brigading. Could you enlighten me please?
Well, it depends on your instance. Some of them aren't popular, and some of them don't allow downvotes at all. But, over here, it's apparently hip to just click into a profile and downvote everything they've posted because they said something you disagree with. I won't name names, because that'd be just as bad, but you can look through my profile if you're really interested.
I’m with you. We need more positive thinking instead of the instantly thinking someone means the worst, like Reddit saw. Unfortunately, many people are just happy being sour and ruining everything.
tram1@programming.dev 1 year ago
I downvoted your post and laughed, but then I took it back. Sorry