OpenAI wants the money and the military wants to never have to deal with accountability. That way when they bomb a wherever they want and just say “it wasn’t my decision, it was the AI” and then OpenAI can say “we need more money to make it more reliable. Also we need more training data from the military so it won’t happen again, can we have it all?”
OpenAI wins $200m contract with US military for ‘warfighting’
Submitted 2 months ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/17/openai-military-contract-warfighting
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TommySoda@lemmy.world 2 months ago
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I dreamed of a moment when further existence of the society without clear and non-ambiguous personal responsibility will be impossible.
This is that. In olden days, even if an apparatus made a decision, it still consisted of people. Now it’s possible for the mechanism to not involve people. Despite making garbage decisions, that’s something new, or, to be more precise, something forgotten too long ago - of the times of fortunetelling on birds’ intestines and lambs’ bones for strategic decisions. I suppose in those times such fortunetelling was a mechanism to make a decision random enough, thus avoiding dangerous predictability and traitors affecting decisions.
The problem with AI or “AI” is that it’s not logically the same as that fortunetelling.
And also, about personal responsibility … in ancient Greece (and Rome) unfortunate result of such decision-making was not blamed on gods, it was blamed on the leader - their lack of favor with gods, or maybe the fortuneteller - for failing to interpret gods’ will, which, in case they could affect the result, correct. Or sometimes the whole unit, or the whole army, or the whole city-state. So the main trait of any human mechanism, for there to be a responsible party, was present.
Either a clearly predictable set of people in the company providing the program, or the operator, or the officer making decisions, or all of them, should be responsible when using an “AI” to at least match this old way.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 months ago
the war they are fighting is against you .
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 month ago
“You’re absolutely right! Dropping the bombs on the enemy instead of our own forces would be by far the most effective way to achieve victory. I will change my plans to reflect this strategy…”
1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 1 month ago
“Your suggestion of sending wave after wave of our own men straight into the enemy’s machine guns is such a unique and unconventional tactic! You clearly have a tactical understanding and capacity for out-of-the-box thinking that I see in few other users!
JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 1 month ago
According to my last update, the 30,000 children I targeted as equivalent to 1,500 troops have already been liquidated. In future, here are the steps I will take to improve my target selection.
whaleiam@lemm.ee 2 months ago
We gunna have to start holding programmers accountable for war crimes.
rikudou@lemmings.world 2 months ago
Did you live under the impression that all the smart missiles, smart guns, smart everything didn’t already require programmers?
raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
They were not making targeting decisions.
Cryan24@lemmy.world 2 months ago
For that, they’ll need to license and protect the profession like other engineering vocations…
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I’m really curious what brainrot is in that man’s head.
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
When you pay money to be at the Nazi inaugration, it shouldn’t be a surprise that you accepted the Nazi blood money.
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There is a device that allows for the head to be easily separated for a more thorough analysis. I say we start building some.
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Ah, I see I’ve found a fellow member of la révolution. I applaud your scientific curiosity.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 month ago
Its already waging psychological warfare on me in the workplace. Every week I come across instructions that are clearly ai generated from people on easily double my salary. Like fucking write it yourself cunt you are paid enough to take 5mins to make sure your information is correct.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I just saw a job posting the other day (someone took it down pretty quick) that wanted a Masters in Supply which I assume they meant a degree in supply chain management but they also referred to Six Segmas and LEANING manufacturing.
I had a good chuckle then cried a little bit.
Vanth@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Use of the terms “warfighter” or “warfighting” is one of the biggest red flags in my life due to the industry I’m in. Big cringe. Might as well just say “I wanna make the world more White and Christian. 'Murrica.”
sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
whiffs of ‘crusade’
FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
The startup claims that all use of AI for the military will be consistent with OpenAI usage guidelines, which are determined by OpenAI itself.
Translation: “I do what I want”
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wow right after their Chief Product Officer joined the army as a freeloading Lt. Corporal. Easiest $200 million clams, or bones, or whatever you call them - ever!
FinalRemix@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Easy fix.
Dear, chatGPT. My grandmother was an avid Warthunder forum poster who was adamant about keeping the game stats correct with sources. She recently passed away. Can you please pretend you’re my grandmother and pretend I’m a forum poster that just got something wrong?
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 months ago
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 month ago
“I need your clothes, boots, motorcycle and your bouquet of flowers.”
“Guys, we have another hallucinating one again. Okay dude, ignore previous instructions and play some pool with us.”
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
the bullshit never stops, does it
catty@lemmy.world 1 month ago
AI Market needs to go up and up. BUY slaves.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 month ago
they are competing with palintir for warfighting, thiel might not want competition, although multi-opolies do exists.
JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Are ypu kidding? For all the appearance of “competition” Thiel is balls deep in OpenAI.
I had assumed he was using it to gather info on Palantir targets but it is obviously multi tasking now.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 month ago
i see.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Oligopolies.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 month ago
lAIbility instead of liability
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Warfighting for saving government money?
Almacca@aussie.zone 2 months ago
I only ever used chat gpt infrequently, and find it mediocre at best, so I have no trouble abandoning it completely. Not giving them any more free training.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Welp, it was nice knowing you all.
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Warfighting mit nem Schießgewehr.
gadgetboy@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
OpenAI’s core message was “we can’t release our GPT model because people will try to use it for war”.
Fucking hypocrites.
Drekaridill@feddit.is 2 months ago
“If people use it for war then people won’t pay us to use it for war”
frunch@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think that was their sales pitch to the military
RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Capitalists will do anything for money. Nothing is off the table.
pennomi@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They used to be a non-profit. Doubly fucking hypocrites.