I really need to stop putting it off and install Linux on my PC and laptops
The end of Windows 10 is approaching, so it's time to consider Linux and LibreOffice
Submitted 11 hours ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2025/06/11/the-end-of-windows-10/
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LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
NotProLemmy@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
Yes, exactly.
(Kinda unrelated side note: Nobody around me is getting that all these apps are STUPID and MAKES YOU THE PRODUCT. Just why are they critisizing without even trying them?)
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
How many laptops do you own lol?
ISOmorph@feddit.org 2 hours ago
Families exist. I’m the “IT guy” for 3 people
SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 4 hours ago
Call me when Libre doesn’t suck/feel like it’s stuck in 2003.
I won’t hold my breath.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 hours ago
Call me when Windows doesn’t suck and it’s not getting worse year by year. I will laugh every time they add more ads and more tracking.
RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
If you don’t like it, try OnlyOffice.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Baby duck syndrome.
Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
I’ve had windows update disabled for years so the fact that it’s “end of life” don’t mean shit to me. It’ll keep chugging along for years more.
That said, I installed Mint a week ago and love it!
prof@infosec.pub 1 hour ago
EOL means no more security updates, which means attack vectors don’t get patched.
If you keep using a Windows installation (or any OS for that matter) that isn’t patched regularly you are very likely to be victim to some malicious actor eventually. It’s not manual hacking anymore, it’s bots scraping the whole internet exploiting known vulnerabilities completely automated.
The risk is much lower if you’re in a home network with NAT, where your PCs IP is not publicly reachable, but if you communicate with any webservices you’re still vulnerable.
As example. If you nowadays put a Windows XP machine live on the internet with a public IP, it will be compromised within minutes.
So yeah. Good call switching to Mint, but please don’t use unpatched Windows.
HakunaHafada@lemm.ee 3 hours ago
Mint was my first Linux OS, and it’s been really nice.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 hours ago
Not my first, but the one I landed on after years. It’s just so good.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Can’t wait for the “The end of Windows 11 is approaching…” article in a few years. Keep me posted.
the_q@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
I always find it odd that posts like this get any downvotes at all. Like, are people really that in love with Windows and or Microsoft?
lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
It’s because we’ve seen this post 1000 times
toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
and yet you persist. why?
(sorry, this is totally a troll)
pycorax@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Because the people that would or can switch would already switch after it’s been posted for the 1000th time. It’s not realistic because the vast majority of people simply don’t care. People hate windows updates enough as it is, to most average people this is good news.
the_q@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
Not caring is why these corporations have the power they do.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
Because mass recommending Linux to people with absolutely no nuance whatsoever is exactly why Linux users are seen as obnoxious and annoying. Not only does the website make no attempt to properly explain Linux it doesn’t clearly outline its usecase. Its the very definition of the Linux user stereotype, blasted right in front of your face, reposted everywhere, and with a simple INSTALL LINUX and EVEYONE CAN INSTALL LINUX.
DemBoSain@midwest.social 10 hours ago
It’s getting downvoted because it’s not realistic.
Libra@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
I thought so too, largely on the basis of some very bad experiences with ubuntu-based distributions (they seem to hate my bog-standard RTX3060 GPU for whatever reason), but in frustration I tried one last time to install a linux distro and went with something based on fedora and it has 95% just worked, it’s been great. I haven’t booted up windows in almost 3 weeks, all my games work (battle.net was a bit of a pain to get working), the proprietary windows software I use for work runs great in wine, etc. I’m at the point now where I’m transferring all my files off of NTFS partitions and reformatting them to btrfs and integrating them into the linux filesystem, cause I’m done with windows forever to the greatest possible extent that I can be.
kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
[deleted]Hadriscus@jlai.lu 8 hours ago
Perhaps if you ran Linux you’d less crankyyyyy
ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 8 hours ago
That’s not the flex you think it is.
Your preoccupation with image here hurts you more than it helps you.
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Putting Bill Gates’ dick in my mouth is far too high of a licensing fee. I’ll just play Oregon Trail on an Apple IIe instead. But no judgment. You live your best life.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
Honestly yes, this entire campaign is absolutely stupid.
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Installed Linux Mint a few months ago and have been dual booting. Hardly use Windows at all now.
Linux is exactly what an OS should be.
slumberlust@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
If you find yourself not wanting to switch, there are third party options for patching. I’m going to try zero patch, but I have no experience with them to date.
tfowinder@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
I don’t understand how can critical buisness machines which work perfectly fine be switched to windows 11?
We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ?? Why would I take my risk breaking stuff. I am sure there are millions of critical systems running gon windows 10 which should not be distribed at any means, what would Microsoft do about them.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Your business critical system will no longer be supported with security updates which will leave it vulnerable to attack.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
You would be amazed and the industrial world. There are tons of large and incredibly expensive special purposes machines that are operated by super antiquated PC architecture computers running geriatric operating systems, sometimes still even DOS or Windows 3.x.
Think industrial CNC mills and lathes, presses, pick-and-place machines, specialty lab testing equipment, electron microscopes, etc.
Process control, i.e. production line automation, is usually driven by dedicated PLCs. But the user interfaces connected to them are almost invariantly some old ruggedized panel mounted PC running Windows. An absurd number of them in my experience are still on 2000 or XP. NT4 is pretty easy to find, too.
Granted often these are not networked, and in cases where they are they’re not connected to the internet, or may even talk to other workstations via RS-485 serial (!) or some other gimcrack method that is unlikely to be a vector for modern malware.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Hahahahahaha, I still periodically see win2k/2k3 on the network at some clients, with SMBv1 enabled across the domain to make the CISO’s eye twitch
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ??
Because you should be using a server grade os instead of janking things together with desktop OS installs that just make everything so much harder (and aren’t supported for as long).
Sorry, I have to clean up installs like this at least once a year when we take on clients from internal IT that just made things work instead of making something that works right, so I’ve got opinions.
stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
If you are running business critical applications on Windows 10 that is a problem. Windows 10 is only meant for end user machines. Other services should be running on OS’s that are meant for the application such as Windows Server or server versions of Linux distros running LTS kernels.
Not to mention, near every piece of software I’ve been involved with at work has required specific versions of Windows Server and whatever database it uses, if you want to upgrade the software you use, then upgrading the OS is part of the task.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
For that use Windows 10 IOT LTSC
grue@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
The obvious conclusion is that Windows 10 is not fit for purpose in your business environment and the person in charge of IT procurement dun goofed picking it in the first place.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
What Microsoft probably expects you to do is get your management to buy new computers that support Windows 11 and/or whatever the hell their current server OS is, and in the process give them and their hardware vendor partners a lot of money.
What you can do instead is switch to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC which is what I did at my workplace recently. It’s supported until 2032 with security updates. Not feature updates, but I suspect that business users probably don’t care about those much. In fact, most people would probably treat that as a benefit. It also comes with basically no bloatware (except goddamned Edge), which is surprising. No Copilot, no Cortana, no Recall. None of that shit.
We have a fleet of machines that “can’t” be upgraded to Win11 because of hardware shortcomings, at least without overriding the requirements with Rufus or similar. Unfortunately we also rely on a small but important spread of proprietary Windows-only applications which have no open source or Linux replacements, and at least two of them absolutely will not run in Wine. Believe me, I tried.
The only wrinkle with this is that you cannot upgrade or license swap in place. You have to do a full reinstall, which for us is not a problem because we have a modest number of computers and I have physical access to all of them. None are bricked up behind a wall or anything.
Hawke@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Because either way you’re taking a risk.
Security flaws and aging hardware are two obvious problems.
I’d very much question why you’d use windows 10 over something better supported— maybe not Linux but at least Windows Server OS.
Eheran@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Why should the financial sector ever switch away from their amazing COBOL code base? Why should anyone switch away from VGA, works just fine? No need for USB, PS2 etc. work just fine.
funkajunk@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Their answer would probably be to run Windows Server 2022, which is supported until 2031.
Libra@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
The problem is that Microsoft is ending Win10 support so you won’t be able to get updates and such (especially security updates) for the OS anymore which will ultimately lead to things breaking or being vulnerable anyway. Microsoft wants you to change OS, you should change OS, but you don’t have to change to Win11.
Teppichbrand@feddit.org 8 hours ago
Squizzy@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
What is the highest spec pc I am likely to find for sale when people realise it cant go to windows 11?
unwillingsomnambulist@midwest.social 7 hours ago
Unless the requirements have changed, you’re looking at 2016-2017 era. Intel 7000-series, AMD Ryzen 1000-series. Newer may be available if there’s no TPM installed.
RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 7 hours ago
TMP 2.0 released in October 2014, so I don’t think that you can find particularly powerful systems up for grabs.
Lulzagna@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
The only time I use Windows is for Fusion 360
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
I wish I could make parts in FreeCAD anywhere close to as good as I can in Fusion 360… I REALLY miss it since the move to Linux. I’m not anywhere near as excited about my 3D printer anymore since designing parts is a slog and the end result I am generally un-proud of. :( I feel like my only option (which sucks) is buy a second GPU for pass through and install windows 10 in a VM that only touches the internet once every 2 weeks to keep Fusion happy.
Professor_Piddles@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
It’s possible to pass thru a single GPU. I followed this guide on my Fedora desktop
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
wishful thinking. i mean i get where the sentiment is coming from, but normal users are going to have a lot of problems if they make that switch. especially if they need particular types of software.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
The end of windows 10 support is approaching. Windows 10 will go on for a while yet.