I always find it odd that posts like this get any downvotes at all. Like, are people really that in love with Windows and or Microsoft?
The end of Windows 10 is approaching, so it's time to consider Linux and LibreOffice
Submitted 10 months ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2025/06/11/the-end-of-windows-10/
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the_q@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
millie@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
I imagine the downvotes are backlash against all the people who convince themselves that Linux is the only viable solution regardless of use case or workflow. There are definitely loads of people in the Linux community and the open source community in general who will pick a piece of software and proselytize it with no consideration whatsoever whether it fits someone’s actual needs. Like, personally, I like Linux but there are things I need to do that require me to have Windows. For some people this fact is absolutely unacceptable and they simply won’t hear it.
the_q@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
What can’t you do on Linux that keeps you on Windows or Mac?
pycorax@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Because the people that would or can switch would already switch after it’s been posted for the 1000th time. It’s not realistic because the vast majority of people simply don’t care. People hate windows updates enough as it is, to most average people this is good news.
the_q@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Not caring is why these corporations have the power they do.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Because mass recommending Linux to people with absolutely no nuance whatsoever is exactly why Linux users are seen as obnoxious and annoying. Not only does the website make no attempt to properly explain Linux it doesn’t clearly outline its usecase. Its the very definition of the Linux user stereotype, blasted right in front of your face, reposted everywhere, and with a simple INSTALL LINUX and EVEYONE CAN INSTALL LINUX.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 10 months ago
The first paragraphs on endof10.org tell you why you should install Linux followed by telling you how to get in touch with someone who can explain things to you and even install it for you. Most of them do it free of charge. I’m not sure how you can improve on that.
lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
It’s because we’ve seen this post 1000 times
toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 10 months ago
and yet you persist. why?
(sorry, this is totally a troll)
kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
[deleted]kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Honestly yes, this entire campaign is absolutely stupid.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 10 months ago
Perhaps if you ran Linux you’d less crankyyyyy
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Putting Bill Gates’ dick in my mouth is far too high of a licensing fee. I’ll just play Oregon Trail on an Apple IIe instead. But no judgment. You live your best life.
ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 10 months ago
That’s not the flex you think it is.
Your preoccupation with image here hurts you more than it helps you.
DemBoSain@midwest.social 10 months ago
It’s getting downvoted because it’s not realistic.
Libra@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
I thought so too, largely on the basis of some very bad experiences with ubuntu-based distributions (they seem to hate my bog-standard RTX3060 GPU for whatever reason), but in frustration I tried one last time to install a linux distro and went with something based on fedora and it has 95% just worked, it’s been great. I haven’t booted up windows in almost 3 weeks, all my games work (battle.net was a bit of a pain to get working), the proprietary windows software I use for work runs great in wine, etc. I’m at the point now where I’m transferring all my files off of NTFS partitions and reformatting them to btrfs and integrating them into the linux filesystem, cause I’m done with windows forever to the greatest possible extent that I can be.
tfowinder@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
I don’t understand how can critical buisness machines which work perfectly fine be switched to windows 11?
We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ?? Why would I take my risk breaking stuff. I am sure there are millions of critical systems running gon windows 10 which should not be distribed at any means, what would Microsoft do about them.
Engywuck@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I don’t know what kind of software that particular machine runs, but for server and backup Linux appears to be the go to tool. I’m not saying that you have to migrate everything to Linux. I just say that for servers and the like the transition is probably easier than for desktop.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 months ago
We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ??
Because you should be using a server grade os instead of janking things together with desktop OS installs that just make everything so much harder (and aren’t supported for as long).
Sorry, I have to clean up installs like this at least once a year when we take on clients from internal IT that just made things work instead of making something that works right, so I’ve got opinions.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
For that use Windows 10 IOT LTSC
grue@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The obvious conclusion is that Windows 10 is not fit for purpose in your business environment and the person in charge of IT procurement dun goofed picking it in the first place.
stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
If you are running business critical applications on Windows 10 that is a problem. Windows 10 is only meant for end user machines. Other services should be running on OS’s that are meant for the application such as Windows Server or server versions of Linux distros running LTS kernels.
Not to mention, near every piece of software I’ve been involved with at work has required specific versions of Windows Server and whatever database it uses, if you want to upgrade the software you use, then upgrading the OS is part of the task.
Hawke@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Because either way you’re taking a risk.
Security flaws and aging hardware are two obvious problems.
I’d very much question why you’d use windows 10 over something better supported— maybe not Linux but at least Windows Server OS.
Libra@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
The problem is that Microsoft is ending Win10 support so you won’t be able to get updates and such (especially security updates) for the OS anymore which will ultimately lead to things breaking or being vulnerable anyway. Microsoft wants you to change OS, you should change OS, but you don’t have to change to Win11.
funkajunk@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Their answer would probably be to run Windows Server 2022, which is supported until 2031.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 months ago
What Microsoft probably expects you to do is get your management to buy new computers that support Windows 11 and/or whatever the hell their current server OS is, and in the process give them and their hardware vendor partners a lot of money.
What you can do instead is switch to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC which is what I did at my workplace recently. It’s supported until 2032 with security updates. Not feature updates, but I suspect that business users probably don’t care about those much. In fact, most people would probably treat that as a benefit. It also comes with basically no bloatware (except goddamned Edge), which is surprising. No Copilot, no Cortana, no Recall. None of that shit.
We have a fleet of machines that “can’t” be upgraded to Win11 because of hardware shortcomings, at least without overriding the requirements with Rufus or similar. Unfortunately we also rely on a small but important spread of proprietary Windows-only applications which have no open source or Linux replacements, and at least two of them absolutely will not run in Wine. Believe me, I tried.
The only wrinkle with this is that you cannot upgrade or license swap in place. You have to do a full reinstall, which for us is not a problem because we have a modest number of computers and I have physical access to all of them. None are bricked up behind a wall or anything.
Eheran@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Why should the financial sector ever switch away from their amazing COBOL code base? Why should anyone switch away from VGA, works just fine? No need for USB, PS2 etc. work just fine.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Your business critical system will no longer be supported with security updates which will leave it vulnerable to attack.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Hahahahahaha, I still periodically see win2k/2k3 on the network at some clients, with SMBv1 enabled across the domain to make the CISO’s eye twitch
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You would be amazed and the industrial world. There are tons of large and incredibly expensive special purposes machines that are operated by super antiquated PC architecture computers running geriatric operating systems, sometimes still even DOS or Windows 3.x.
Think industrial CNC mills and lathes, presses, pick-and-place machines, specialty lab testing equipment, electron microscopes, etc.
Process control, i.e. production line automation, is usually driven by dedicated PLCs. But the user interfaces connected to them are almost invariantly some old ruggedized panel mounted PC running Windows. An absurd number of them in my experience are still on 2000 or XP. NT4 is pretty easy to find, too.
Granted often these are not networked, and in cases where they are they’re not connected to the internet, or may even talk to other workstations via RS-485 serial (!) or some other gimcrack method that is unlikely to be a vector for modern malware.
LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I really need to stop putting it off and install Linux on my PC and laptops
OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Linux Mint would like a word. Best choice tech wise I ever made. Shit just works and it’s dead simple, polished, easy to learn and read programs. Fuck Windows. I will never go back. Make the jump!
LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That’s good to know. Mint was going to be my distro of choice
sixty@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I recently jumped on pure Mint after buying a new desktop PC with no OS pre-installed. Within a week I was dual booting it on my laptop too. It’s so much faster and efficient. Battery feels like it lasts 50% longer.
And the control is amazing.
I was very skeptical of Linux, as I had a shitty experience previously with OpenSUSE where nothing worked. Mint is the way to go tho, been so smooth.
Marthirial@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I dual booth Win11 and Fedora Desk 42. It feels gross starting windows but there are 2, TWO! Apps that don’t have Linux version that I still need.
When Linux wizards figure out a way to use win apps without the intimidating complexity of installing Wine or virtualization, more people will switch.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I would give that a shot. The full guide is install wine and winetricks the same way you install any other software you use. Then in winetricks, tell it to run an arbitary executable and point it to your .exe. That’s it.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Haven’t booted windows in over a month now. If I want to play pubg or bf1, thats about the only reason I need windows. And I do a lot of gaming, just not aaa multi-player. But I am enjoying computing again just like when I was younger and computers were interesting and fun and not corpo ad stations on your machine.
Landless2029@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m between living locations and can’t carry my desktop around.
So I grabbed an old laptop and put Linux mint on it. It’s been near perfect. Extremely smooth experience.
It detected my printer and auto installed. I installed steam and played Terraria without issue. Small performance problem but I don’t have a GPU. Even works good with my docking station.
My only complaint is the audio device doesn’t switch automatically when I dock/undock.
I’d recommend making a USB and boot into it for a test drive.
LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Awesome, thanks for the insight. I was actually looking at Linux Mint myself. I need around 4Gb on a USB to boot it, correct?
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 10 months ago
How many laptops do you own lol?
Landless2029@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I end up with all the “broken” laptops my family replaces after they buy new ones.
I’ve got like 9 laptops. Active ones are my Linux one, work one (windows 11) and my wife’s school one (windows 11). We both have win 10 desktops still.
LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 10 months ago
2, though they are both quite old
ISOmorph@feddit.org 10 months ago
Families exist. I’m the “IT guy” for 3 people
NotProLemmy@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Yes, exactly.
(Kinda unrelated side note: Nobody around me is getting that all these apps are STUPID and MAKES YOU THE PRODUCT. Just why are they critisizing without even trying them?)