We are already there
How the US is turning into a mass techno-surveillance state
Submitted 10 months ago by Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
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RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 10 months ago
qweertz@programming.dev 10 months ago
Turnin?! into?!
ok delusional lib
y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Uh you mean since like, 2001?
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
And by US, the author means the world.
bricklove@midwest.social 10 months ago
Here’s a 20 year old album about it (it’s really cool that my favorite band is called ISIS. It’s neat how they broke up in 2010 but I still can only wear the merch at home)
teamevil@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Panopticon is fucking brilliant…hands down my Favorite ISIS album.
serenissi@lemmy.world 10 months ago
wait US is putting surveillance on techno producers?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Is there a word for when the media is constantly like 3+ years behind with “warnings” like this? I mean Jesus Christ, turning into?
danzabia@infosec.pub 10 months ago
Better that they cover it than not. And the recent ramp up is worth reporting on, it’s a new level of weaponization compared to previous administrations.
wewbull@feddit.uk 10 months ago
I’m sure German could do a compound of “spät erkennen” or similar for a late realisation.
xodoh74984@lemmy.world 10 months ago
[deleted]prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
True… Though things have accelerated at an alarming pace over the past few years
propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
There’s a pokemon for it.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 10 months ago
“turning”? 🤣🤣
You Yankees really do live in a bubble.
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
what happened here
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Somehow that was removed for Rule 3, I don’t see how.
Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 10 months ago
[deleted]qweertz@programming.dev 10 months ago
nice xebophobic take, yanqui (mb you should go home?)
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
That kind of irrational logic will no doubt serve you well. Enjoy your future!
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Definitely not a “all criticism of the US is literal soviet propaganda” coping mechanism
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 10 months ago
it’s already a surveillance state and both the red and blue party are complicit.
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Uh, do the kids these days really not know about the post-9/11 Patriot Act?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well Obama ‘fixed’ it.
Made it even more draconian but called it the Freedom Act.
Shit like that works every time.FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 10 months ago
God I miss the pre-9/11 US, when the worst thing happening was bad jokes on SNL about Bill Clinton and cigars.
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Where are all the “nothing to hide” people now.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 10 months ago
Probably realizing that Democrats can now trace who bought MAGA hats and they too have guns.
nullPointer@programming.dev 10 months ago
kinda been that way since 2001
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Since a bit earlier or so I’ve read.
peereboominc@lemm.ee 10 months ago
How hard did Musk press his fingers on his other hand? Or does his blood not flow that hard?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 10 months ago
“Turning into” lol. The USA and all their partner countries like the ones in the 5 Eyes program have all been mass techno-surveillance states for decades.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The 5 eyes countries are not allowed to spy on their own citizens, but they can freely share data.
Isn’t there an obvious loophole here.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 10 months ago
It’s almost like it was by design.
They also just spy on their own citizens anyway, because who is going to stop them?
propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
The 5 eyes countries are not allowed to spy on their own citizens
I mean, they do it anyways.
elvith@feddit.org 10 months ago
Shhhh… Don’t make it even more obvious. The fig leaf covering it is already so flaccid, that it might instantaneously turn into dust at the slightest disturbance.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Every part of the world is. It’s not unique to the US. Laws need to be passed to stop this.
ogmios@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Laws aren’t enough for something of this magnitude. The general population needs to grow to match the much greater challenges presented by modern technology, or we’re going to descend into another dark age until we do learn how to behave.
kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Yes. Unfortunately, these systems are also a great gift for any upcoming fascist regime (like the Trump junta currently) which will not only happily continue using the existing infrastructure but also extend it like mad.
Maybe humanity’s greatest weaknesses overall: the lack of foresight and the lack of wisdom learned from historic precedents. Everything’s always about short-term goals, ignoring any long-term disadvantages. See also: climate disaster.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Bet you $500 that the next democrat president won’t tear down the system and will in fact give even more contracts to Palantir & co.
CitizenKong@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That’s a capitalism weakness, not a human weakness though.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Are these people retarded? Did they forget Edward Snowden?