No. I can’t. And probably neither can most of us. That’s part of the plan. Anybody.us could be disappeared into the gulags.
Could You Prove You’re a US Citizen?
Submitted 2 months ago by destructdisc@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-ice-detained-citizenship-proof.html
Comments
SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 2 months ago
workerONE@lemmy.world 2 months ago
How can you do anything if you’re detained by ICE? If you have your birth certificate or passport in a safety deposit box you can’t access it when you are detained.
SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 2 months ago
And if there’s no more birthright citizenship, how will any of that help anyway?
At some point very soon, I see everyone having to appear before some official, fill out pages of forms, pay a few, and take an oath in order to be registered as a citizen.
Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Only American citizens are able to hold a passport so that would be a way to prove it. In fact, for most people, your passport is easily the most valid form of government ID that you can get.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Start shooting.
workerONE@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Maybe without basic rights but not dead
RedditAdminsSuckIt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Can’t do any better than my birth certificate.
If that’s no good then no
destructdisc@lemmy.world 2 months ago
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
That didn’t even work for a President.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Probably but that’s because I’m privileged to have a space secure enough to store the magic documents that mean you’re allowed to occupy the volume required for me.
Nations are dumb and imaginary.
unmagical@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
And when ICE says your passport or birth certificate is fake and they confiscate it?
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ll guess I’ll die.
Magic isn’t real and you shouldn’t expect it to protect you.
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Do you carry those documents on you?!
codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Waffle@infosec.pub 1 month ago
I can’t wait to get deported (I’m brown) while my son, who is white as fuck (but technically Latino) stays behind. 🫡
ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I have all my various types of IDs going back to high school. State, student, passports, two birth certs, name change paperwork, old and new social security card. I’ve got so many ways to prove my identity. They’d probably just steal my shit and lose it then say I must be lying
13igTyme@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They wouldn’t even go that far. They’d just say it’s all fake. No need to take it.
Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They’d be suspicious of you having so many forms of ID, they’d call them fake and fist bump each other
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 months ago
I could pretend I like guns and don’t know what a meter is. Would that be enough?
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 months ago
You mean like a parking meter?
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Depends on how much due process they’re willing to allow.
I’m very white, so that’s something.
I almost always have my drivers license on me, that should be worth something. However I’m pretty sure my state gives out licenses regardless of immigration status. Also, while I paid for RealID, I didn’t get it
In case due process and constitutional rights were allowed, I have a passport and may be able to dig up a birth certificate. You can’t really do any better although I believe they’re already ignoring that
lunarul@lemmy.world 2 months ago
always have my drivers license on me, that should be worth something
AA5B@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Seems like fairly established case law that you can film police and they can’t just call that “interference”. I hope he has a successful lawsuit.
More importantly for me imgur.com/t75V7oe
Jumi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nein
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Presumably yes, birth certificate. But based on seeing news of citizens being wrongfully deported I honestly don’t know what kind of proof ICE demands.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
yeah but why would you want to? talk about embarassing
Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Now that I’m no longer in the US, I’m so glad I can claim heritage to a third country (I was born there). I will never ever introduce myself as an American. If anything I refer to the state I came from since there is a lot of good there, but fascism is trying to drown it.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
no kidding
Evotech@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nah, I don’t even live there
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Probably not without a ton of money and the willingness to pretend to be one…
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Could you really prove anything, reality is relative and all.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 1 month ago
I’ve needed to email my birth certificate a few times, so I could probably find it in my emails.
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Squirrel
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 month ago
Thankfully not.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 months ago
No
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t see posts with apologies to sovcits for ridiculing them. Not the part about somehow proving you don’t owe money, but the anti-centralist parts.
flandish@lemmy.world 1 month ago
what is a sovcit? anti-centralist? put down the drugs and ramble less.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’d rather tell them to get fucked. Though, not sure if have the stones.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Holy fucking shit. The injustice in this would cause me have a violent meltdown.
TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 months ago
“Would?” This is what’s happening.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I meant if I was the affected person