No. I can’t. And probably neither can most of us. That’s part of the plan. Anybody.us could be disappeared into the gulags.
Could You Prove You’re a US Citizen?
Submitted 2 days ago by destructdisc@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-ice-detained-citizenship-proof.html
Comments
SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 2 days ago
workerONE@lemmy.world 2 days ago
How can you do anything if you’re detained by ICE? If you have your birth certificate or passport in a safety deposit box you can’t access it when you are detained.
SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 1 day ago
And if there’s no more birthright citizenship, how will any of that help anyway?
At some point very soon, I see everyone having to appear before some official, fill out pages of forms, pay a few, and take an oath in order to be registered as a citizen.
Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Only American citizens are able to hold a passport so that would be a way to prove it. In fact, for most people, your passport is easily the most valid form of government ID that you can get.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Start shooting.
workerONE@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Maybe without basic rights but not dead
codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Waffle@infosec.pub 20 hours ago
I can’t wait to get deported (I’m brown) while my son, who is white as fuck (but technically Latino) stays behind. 🫡
RedditAdminsSuckIt@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Can’t do any better than my birth certificate.
If that’s no good then no
destructdisc@lemmy.world 2 days ago
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
That didn’t even work for a President.
ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I have all my various types of IDs going back to high school. State, student, passports, two birth certs, name change paperwork, old and new social security card. I’ve got so many ways to prove my identity. They’d probably just steal my shit and lose it then say I must be lying
13igTyme@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They wouldn’t even go that far. They’d just say it’s all fake. No need to take it.
Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They’d be suspicious of you having so many forms of ID, they’d call them fake and fist bump each other
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Probably but that’s because I’m privileged to have a space secure enough to store the magic documents that mean you’re allowed to occupy the volume required for me.
Nations are dumb and imaginary.
unmagical@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
And when ICE says your passport or birth certificate is fake and they confiscate it?
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’ll guess I’ll die.
Magic isn’t real and you shouldn’t expect it to protect you.
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Do you carry those documents on you?!
AA5B@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Depends on how much due process they’re willing to allow.
I’m very white, so that’s something.
I almost always have my drivers license on me, that should be worth something. However I’m pretty sure my state gives out licenses regardless of immigration status. Also, while I paid for RealID, I didn’t get it
In case due process and constitutional rights were allowed, I have a passport and may be able to dig up a birth certificate. You can’t really do any better although I believe they’re already ignoring that
lunarul@lemmy.world 1 day ago
always have my drivers license on me, that should be worth something
BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 18 hours ago
I’ve needed to email my birth certificate a few times, so I could probably find it in my emails.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Presumably yes, birth certificate. But based on seeing news of citizens being wrongfully deported I honestly don’t know what kind of proof ICE demands.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
yeah but why would you want to? talk about embarassing
Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Now that I’m no longer in the US, I’m so glad I can claim heritage to a third country (I was born there). I will never ever introduce myself as an American. If anything I refer to the state I came from since there is a lot of good there, but fascism is trying to drown it.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 day ago
no kidding
Evotech@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Nah, I don’t even live there
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 days ago
I could pretend I like guns and don’t know what a meter is. Would that be enough?
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 day ago
You mean like a parking meter?
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Squirrel
Jumi@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Nein
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Probably not without a ton of money and the willingness to pretend to be one…
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 day ago
Thankfully not.
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Could you really prove anything, reality is relative and all.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 day ago
No
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I don’t see posts with apologies to sovcits for ridiculing them. Not the part about somehow proving you don’t owe money, but the anti-centralist parts.
flandish@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
what is a sovcit? anti-centralist? put down the drugs and ramble less.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’d rather tell them to get fucked. Though, not sure if have the stones.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Holy fucking shit. The injustice in this would cause me have a violent meltdown.
TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 day ago
“Would?” This is what’s happening.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I meant if I was the affected person