YSK about No Thanks, the app to trace products linked to Israel.

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨NONE_dc@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨youshouldknow@lemmy.world⁩

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bashsoftware.boycott

Our app simplifies the process of scanning barcodes and searching for products that is listed for the boycott movement.

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FelixCress@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Looking at the list of brands it is not realistic to entirely avoid them. What I wouldn’t mind is almost a traffic light system where I could avoid companies with ties to Israeli defence sector, illegal settlements etc as well as products manufactured in Israel.

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NGnius@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
This is the sort of app that really needs to be open source or at least open dataset. Right now there’s no way to see if their data is reliable. Aurora Store tells me that app has tracking in it (minor, but still, ewww), which is also concerning, so I’m not going to install it to find out if that information is at least provided in-app.

Oh also it’s developed by this super generic-looking company BashSquare. Overall not very confidence-inspiring.

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- Keeponstalin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I don’t know anything about BashSquare, but the developer is Ahmed Bashbash, a Palestinian software engineer from Gaza residing in Hungary.
  
  Here’s the About page:
  
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  As far as what’s on the boycott list, it follows the official boycott list from my knowledge and gives an explanation on why a brand is boycotted
  
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  It works without camera access if you have no need to scan barcodes, it does need network to access the boycott list information. It doesn’t need notification or sensor access to work. At least on grapheneos
  
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  - NGnius@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That’s quite compelling but I still can’t find any official confirmation of that information. The BashSquare website doesn’t mention any employees but does mention the app (and their website is on the G Play store). IMO the information you’ve provided is enough to confirm it uses some of the public boycott list, but could still be omitting things (though very unlikely; that would be a wild Israeli misinformation campaign).
    
    The boycott website doesn’t provide barcode prefixes for companies to boycott, which means there is still some information that isn’t verifiable, and it’s one of the more crucial parts of the app’s functionality (if you’re not scanning barcodes you could just use the website). I did manage to find a way to look up barcode prefixes but there was no mention of a public API so it makes me think that either they’re part of the app (see qualms about open/verifiable dataset) or the app is using some proprietary API/scraper to get that info.
    
    Thanks for the info!
    
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- kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  You can’t trust those “app has tracking in it” flags because they usually have scary wording for extremely basic and normal things that wouldn’t impact your privacy.
  
  An app anonymously tracks if an user clicks a button or not. This becomes “ThIs APp pHOnEs HomE tRaCkiNg uSErS”
  
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  - NGnius@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I’d be inclined to agree if it wasn’t broken down into more detail than what I actually shared. The app includes ads and one of the trackers is Google AdMob, so that’s definitely not anonymous tracking. It’s also impossible* to be sure whether the other two trackers, Google Crashlytics and Firebase Analytics, are anonymous.
    
    *without reading the source code, at least
    
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  - grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    An app anonymously tracks if an user clicks a button or not. This becomes “ThIs APp pHOnEs HomE tRaCkiNg uSErS”
    
    That is not normal and I absolutely object to it! Fuck anybody who wants to normalize that.
    
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- jimmy90@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  does it contain information on the leadership of these companies
  
  a lot of lemmy commenters support further action against chief executives and particularly genocide supporting chief executives
  
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ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Could it not just be a website? Trying to minimize the number of apps on my phone.

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- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Right? Why does everything need to be a goddamn app
  
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- Keeponstalin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  boycott-israel.org looks to have a search option, otherwise there is the BDS website bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-P…
  
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- jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  iirc you just have to memorize a few numbers at the start of the barcode
  
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Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
ben and jerrys, original owners tried to fight UNILEVER on thier ice cream being sold in israel? unilever ovverulled them.

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- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  After Unilever apparently guaranteed not to interfere in their political activism when buying the brand. I believe they’re currently in court about it
  
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- RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  And both men are Jewish men who are supporters of Palestine.
  
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  - Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Jewish antisemites I imagine they are being called by some of the baddies
    
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MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!

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- samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Stop right there, genocidal scum!
  
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  - JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    You’ve violated international law! Subject yourself to the ICC and pay your fine!
    
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PlaidBaron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
For my Canadian peeps, use Buy Beaver to boycott Israel AND US products.

Or whatever other shit-ass country you dont want to support.

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- Tronn4@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I’d buy beaver
  
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  - 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I’ve bought beaver.
    
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PostaL@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
What I do is have a ChatGPT conversation that I prompted so that when I tell it a brand name, it will answer with <Owning company> - <County of the company>

No need for more complications.

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- noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  What I do is have a ChatGPT conversation
  
  Nothing worthwhile ever happens after chatgpt is invoked. Why even mention it, as if for some reason you aren’t ashamed to admit to using it?
  
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  - PostaL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Do you think that app uses something else behind the scenes? Ha…
    
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humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I’m new to this but my app store uses exodus to rate privacy of apps. It rates this app at 6/10. You all trust or use exodus? Wouldnt use this app anyway as I agree it should be open sourced. Especially using camera to scan items.

Exodus privacy rating

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entwine413@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I wouldn’t install it in the US, since boycotting Israel is apparently antisemitic. Especially not if you’re not a full fledged citizen.

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- some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I’m a citizen and I have it installed. Agree that visiting guests shouldn’t have it for safety.
  
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JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Ah so cool, but is there an open source alternative?

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jeena@piefed.jeena.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
It wasn't on my bingo card that

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Would make a come back but this time the Israel state doing the genocide.

I understand auch that many Israeli people are supporting it, but not all of them. It's a fucked up situation.

At the same time,, somehow the 'don't buy from the russian' doesn't seem to be very effective, so I can't see this working either.

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- scott@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  The BDS movement is based on the movement by the same name targeted at apartheid South Africa, which did have a significant impact in getting rid of the regime. That said the amount of money Americans are compelled legally to spend on Israel vastly outstrips any changes regular people could make in their daily lives so idk how effective it can be in this case. The American empire seems inextricably tied to Israeli dominance these days.
  
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nokturne213@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
For iOS users apps.apple.com/us/app/no-thanks-app/id6476206516

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Maximumbird@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
The company I work for uses tons of tools from a company by the name “ISCAR” which I recently learned means “Israelian carbide”

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FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
This is useful information. Thank you.

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mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Your emails and download details have now been passed to the IDF.

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match@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
but that’s illegal!

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- chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  In Texas, government organizations not only can’t divest from aisrael, but also can’t award contracts to anyone who divest from Israel or speaks ill of it.
  
  It’s insane. When analyzing bids for janitorial services for City Hall a few weeks back, I was required to vett them for their stance on Israel.
  
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jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I wish there was an alternative for soda stream compatible gas tanks around me.

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- CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  You could potentially save yourself some money and get yourself a food grade CO2 tank and refill the cartridges at home.
  
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  - jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    That seems like a bit too much for my personal use…
    
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Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I know waze is but I’m keeping it

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- 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  There’s magic earth.
  
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- SulaymanF@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Waze was sold to Google though.
  
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  - Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I think the devs that built it still manage it and are Israeli. Google just owns the company. I haven’t really looked it up much since I read the news of the sale years ago but that’s how it was then. No matter I’m keeping it.
    
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