I'm bored and desperately search for a proper game

Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨LordWiggle@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

So, I’ve spent over 2 hours on Steam searching for a nice game to play. But it’s all junk, as far as I’m fed with Steam recommendations. I liked ksp2, cities skylines 1, age of empires 2, baldurs gate 3 a lot, I just finished Divinity original sin 2. I like rpgs and management / factory games like workers and resources, satisfactory etc. I’m having a lot of fun with split fiction when I play with a friend, but I need a proper singplayer game. Anything I could get which isn’t a total ripoff due to lack of gameplay or it being a bug simulator or dlc purchase mania?

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borax7385@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Dyson Sphere Program is a great factory game. Check it out.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  256 hours on record. Loved it, don’t want to start a 3rd game.
  
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teft@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Have you tried Kingdom Come Deliverance 2? It’s really good and difficult. It’s a history simulator with a really kick ass story and the hero is just a guy. I really like it a lot.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah but I’m stuck after 2 hours. I got into a battle through a quest I stumbled upon, but there’s an enemy I fail to win from. I seem to be unable to get out of the quest. I played 1, which was really nice although I didn’t completely finished it due to bugs.
  
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  - teft@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I would suggest to load up an earlier save. The beginning is the hardest part of the game (like brutally hard combat sometimes) and if you don’t train Henry up (either find Tomcat or Captain Gnarly, they are trainers) you’ll just die. Or you can do what i did and just brute force the fight with save scumming. The combat is not intuitive until you practice for a bit.
    
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Duenan@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Expedition 33 is a turn based rpg with some slight action elements. Just came out to glowing reviews and might be worth checking out.

Story might not be to your liking though.

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reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If you’re up for ARPGs, simething like Titan Quest or Grim Dawn have many hours worth of gameplay.

Worth looking at as well is anything in the Monster Hunter series. World and Rise are both amazing along with their expansions and Wilds just recently released.

All of my recommendations are long-term games with many hours worth of playtime.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Thanks will look into them!
  
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neidu3@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Ksp2 was severely botched by Take2… but if you’re into the genre you might want to check out Juno. In addition you might want to keep an eye out for KSA currently in early stages of development.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ksp2 was a typo, I meant ksp1. Juno I didn’t like that much, I can’t want for ksa release! Watching closely the development.
  
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- pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The KSA team keeps showing off incredibly impressive demos. I have no doubt they will be able to achieve a worthy KSP successor.
  
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  - snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah I hope they do, ksp1 is a very important game. I’m still mildly concerned about their choice to avoid steam though.
    
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Gnugit@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
At the thrift store today I picked up an original disk copy of Prey (2006) and the thief trilogy.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Played them all but not a great fan
  
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  - Gnugit@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I remember enjoying Prey on release but never finishing it and being distracted by Q3A
    
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burntrealm@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Going Medieval is a pretty great building/management type game! It gets updated often with new content too

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I have 247 hours on record. But because it’s really slow, I stopped playing it.
  
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SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Check out Elin.

Basebuilding/dungeon crawling/pixel art/roguelike. Kinda like ADOM meets stardew, but weirder and more Japanese.

VERY in depth systems in the game. Mutations, crafting, prayer, it’s a deep game.

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slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Factorio. If you like satisfactory and w&r then cracktorio is right up your alley.

There is also a free demo on Steam.
store.steampowered.com/app/427520/Factorio/

If you enjoy the base game I would 100% recommend the expansion called Space Age with adds 4 more planets and space flight between them.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I played several factory games which is right up my alley. I know Factorio is the best of all by far, but I couldn’t get in to it somehow.
  
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  - Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I couldn’t get into it either, but I loved mindustry (that someone else mentioned)
    
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Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
As far as management goes x4 foundations is an awesome space game! I have hundreds of hours in that game spent just messing around with an industrial empire, buying mining ships, setting trade routes, all that fun stuff. You don’t even have to fight anything if you don’t want to.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I played it too! Was a bit overwhelming at first but such a great game. I used to play Eve, X4 gave me a bit of the same feeling but without the toxic people haha
  
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CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Tropico 6 is on sale 65% off on GOG right now.

Yakuza Kiwami is a remaster of the original and is a beautiful and hilarious rpg

Subnautica is kinda a perfect mix of both RPG and management games
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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Played them all already :)
  
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tatann@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The first Witcher game is quite old but you could like the gameplay (it’s not action oriented, unlike the 2 following Witcher games)

It’s honestly not great looking but the story is great, and who knows, you might fall in love with a great franchise :)

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I played all with er games but never finished any of them as it’s just not for me weirdly. I played elder scrolls games which were nice but the Witcher just doesn’t catches my attention.
  
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INeedMana@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

management / factory games like workers and resources

Maybe Frostpunk would be up your alley?

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I liked 1, didn’t like 2 that much.
  
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anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
A classic one would be to go for BG1 and BG2
Then either play the enhanced editions with EET or play the originals with Baldur’s Gate Trilogy to allow you to play all three games as a singular campaign (as well as running BG1 in the same engine as BG2 if you go for the originals)

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I played them all already :)
  
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  - anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Switching to management then, have you played Banished?
    Have you played the mod CC New Frontier?
    
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tal@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I liked ksp2

If you’re saying that you liked the (unfinished, abandoned, poorly-rated) Kerbal Space Program 2, you might play the original, which is better-regarded.

On the “factory” side, maybe some colony simulators? Someone else mentioned Rimworld. That’s got a bit of DLC, but I think that even the base game has pretty good value for money. Oxygen Not Included is another colony sim that focuses more on the building/automation side; I think that you’ll get a lot of hours out of that.

Dwarf Fortress is another colony sim, has a freely-available classic version or a commercial graphical build on Steam. Big learning curve, but lots to explore.

I like Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, though it has a pretty punishing learning curve. Open-world roguelike. It touches on both the RPG (well, not much by way of plot, but in terms of building a character) and the factory (build buildings, faction camps with NPCs, and vehicles) side. You aren’t going to run out of gameplay complexity to explore any time soon on that. Open source and freely-available, though there’s also a commercial build on Steam.

I have not played Elin, the successor to Elona, but it might be worth a look too if you are looking for both a sandbox aspect and RPG aspect.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Wups, that was a typo. I liked ksp1, 2 was a massive disappointment and shitshow and they scammed me out of my 40 euros.
  
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LMDNW@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Oblivion remaster looks pretty good. Have you played through that game before?

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I played all elder scroll games (except online) and fallout games but Bethesda lost me. They scammed me with fallout 76 (I have the special edition with power armor helmet) and their games after Skyrim just flatline imo. Fallout 4 got fixed somewhat, but that’s it. They won’t get my money anymore. Screw Todd Howard.
  
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- anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Original is on GOG for 1/10th of the price too, tons of great mods to improve both graphics and gameplay.
  www.nexusmods.com/games/oblivion/mods?sort=downlo…
  A must have for me is the All Plus 5 mod so I don’t feel forced to power game my starting skills.
  
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  - LMDNW@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Nooo! Don’t do that. The initial leveling is my favorite part of every RPG. It really gets my dopamine receptors running.
    
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rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You might enjoy Sid Meier’s Civilization games. I’m partial to Civ 6, but they’re pretty much all in the same vein of management games.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Played them, we’re fun but don’t feel like playing them anymore.
  
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linkinkampf19@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Always gonna recommend Project Zomboid. Yeah it may look like the Sims (which oddly is where TIS got their art influence from), but it’s pretty darn unforgiving. Hell, I lost my last character without realizing how, chalking it up to some strange drug interaction (aka don’t drink and take sleeping pills, kids). Resource management, while not a direct focal point for PZ, is still important as you are watching every aspect of your character’s health and wellbeing.

The latest beta build 42 has incorporated some new mechanics and a nicer lighting system so things feel proper spooky when slinking around in the darkness. And don’t even get me started on the modding community. Infinite possibilities and a constant influx of new content, some which gets so popular it’s adding into the base gameplay. Look up Week One if you want more than just a zed simulator.

I also second Stardew if you are also looking to scratch that cozy gaming itch.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Project zomboid was a lot of fun, but single-player it gets boring after a while. I don’t feel like playing on a public server and I don’t have friends willing to play it.
  
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  - linkinkampf19@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You aren’t wrong about the SP getting boring at times. I’ll usually find myself kitted out after a week in game and bored and then asking “what next?”, and then I’ll either create a new character in that same world but on the other side of the map, and see how far they can get. Still waiting for mods like RV Interiors to be released, as they are holding out until a proper stable beta of B42 is released… so that could be some time. Granted I’ve also been using Week One as a baseline mod for PZ, as it revitalizes the baseline start to be more in line with “how does this apocalypse truly go down?”. Is it perfect, far from it, but it adds just enough plausibility to make you feel immersed even further. As for MP, I’m not a fan at all. I tend to play most all games SP, as I’m a very patient gamer and usually jump onto the MP bandwagon too late to feel included.
    
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- tal@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Always gonna recommend Project Zomboid.
  
  It does have a sandbox aspect, but much as I want to like the game, I always find myself dropping it and playing Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead instead, which is a similar “zombie survival” genre, but has vastly more stuff and game mechanics. The big selling point for Project Zomboid, in my book, is the far gentler learning curve and lower barrier to entry; it’s got an adorable tutorial racoon, and doesn’t hit you with too much at once, but…
  
  The combat in Project Zomboid frustrates me. It’s very simple, not a lot going on, but because a zombie infection is incurable, a single mistake in timing can have catastrophic effects, so it requires no errors.
  
  The character builds. Project Zomboid has a lot of perks and such. Cataclysm’s got vastly more, plus mutations, bionics, all that stuff.
  
  I prefer the Cataclysm turn-based play to the Project Zomboid real-time play. I don’t have to wait in the real world for actions to complete, and I can stop and think about what my next move is.
  
  To try to illustrate the game complexity difference, take firearms as an example. Project Zomboid has six handguns, four shotguns, and four rifles. Each has one type of ammunition. There are ten weapon mods, each of which can be placed on some of those weapons. There is a firearms skill.
  
  Cataclysm has, to look at just one firearm class and caliber category, 41 rifle-class weapons chambered in .223 (and that’s by default, as chambering can be modified). Each of these can take something like six different classes of weapon mods (replacing the stock, sticking things on the barrel, adding secondary weapons like underbarrel grenade launchers or flamethrowers, etc), multiple fire modes. There are 18 sight mods alone, and it’s possible to have multiple sights on a weapon. Recoil is modeled. Firearms can fit in various types of back/ankle/hip holsters, and draw time and encumbrance is a factor; these also have volume and longest-dimension characteristics, so that a large revolver can’t fit in a small holdout holster. For those .223-caliber rifles alone, there are 13 types of ammunition, including handloads, tracer rounds, armor-piercing rounds, etc. There are 63 different calibers of weapons. Energy weapons, flamethrower/incendiary weapons, chemical weapons, explosive projectile weapons, flechette weapons, illumination rounds, EMP weapons. There are multiple-barrel weapons, including some in different calibers. You can load specialized ammunition in a specified order. Different types of reloading mechanisms (revolver, magazine, belt) are modeled. Some weapons use compatible magazines, and high-capacity and drum magazines exist. Speedloaders for revolvers exist. Weapons can be installed mounted on vehicles (fired manually from a mount position, or with an automated weapons targeting system installed, set up to fire automatically). NPCs (friendly, and hostile) can be armed with them. Bore fouling is modeled. When you fire a weapon without hearing protection, you’re temporarily deafened to some degree. There are multiple stances one can take when firing those weapons. Some of the game’s martial arts forms permit use of firearms. There are firearm melee modifications, like bayonets. There are skills for different types of weapons. The game has all sorts of exotic real-world firearms (e.g. to pick a random one, the American-180, a submachine gun firing .22 rounds with a 180-round pan magazine); the game probably has more real-world firearms than any other video game out there; my current source tree says that there are 555 in total.
  
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  - linkinkampf19@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I will say that CDDA has piqued my interest, but I’m not a huge fan of turn based anything, although weirdly I will get into some of them. May have to give this a shot myself… once I have time.
    
    I think I’ve been spoiled by the massive modding community with PZ, as I feel there’s always something that’s added that feel right within the game world. Sure, there are plenty of non-lore friendly mods, but stuff like adding all the classic consoles into the loot pile, or real world foods keep the immersion up quite well.
    
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- zecg@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Also Barotrauma
  
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idyllic_optimism@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I don’t see Bioware titles on the list. Dragon Age series for fantasy, Mass Effect for sci fi. Since BG3 is on the list, I wanted to mention in case you haven’t gotten to them yet.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I loved dragon age games and mass effect 1. Even 2, but 3 was shit.
  
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- tatann@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’ll second Dragon Age since it’s less action oriented than Mass Effect (which is great but OP seems pore interested in strategy/management than shooting)
  
  Mass Effect has a “tactical pause” feature though, but it feels less Baldur-like :)
  
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Delta_V@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Aviassembly.

Its fun in the way that building airplanes in KSP is fun. The game is small, and the physics are simple, but for $10 its a good value.

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MrNesser@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Stardew if you want a comfy game to play Timberborn for colony sim

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Timberborn I played, was nice but don’t feel like playing that anymore.
  
  Stardew I’ve heard great stories about, but doesn’t look like something for me. But I’ll for sure check it out!
  
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  - snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah similar here, I could never get into stardew and I played timberborn a while ago but haven’t felt like picking it up again since
    
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Glitterkoe@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Railway Empire 2 hard to put down once you get going.

Wasteland 3 is awesome and akin to DOS2 and BG3!

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Thanks, will check them out! Railway empire 2 doesn’t look like something I’d like but I have 2 hours to try before refund and if you say it’s good, I’ll go check it out :)
  
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  - Glitterkoe@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    With Railway it’s the typical anticipation of strategy games that gets you. Just one more expansion of your network, one more resource to connect to a town, one more logistical puzzle to solve. It’s way more intricate (in a good way) than just managing the budget and I’ve sunk hours and hours into some of those missions to figure them out.
    
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BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Hmm, how about mindustry (its open source and free outside of steam)? It’s like factorio with tower defense. Note: after playing for few hours you might get access to many more stuff in game which might feel overwhelming

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Nice thanks, will try!
  
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Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Have you considered Rimworld or 4x games? Stellaris, in particular, might be up your alley.

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- LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I played Stellaris, also HOI4 but those games were hard to learn, even harder to master.
  
  I’ll go check Rimworld, thanks!
  
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- tal@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Stellaris, in particular, might be up your alley.
  
  I like Stellaris quite a bit, but I should note that OP mentioned how he didn’t like spending money on DLC. Stellaris follows the typical Paradox approach of creating a lot of DLC to expand and extend the game as long as people are interested in buying it, and winding up with a large game that’ll cost you a lot if you want all the DLC. It may be worthwhile, but if one wants to get all the DLC, it’s gonna add a fair bit to the price.
  
  (checks Steam)
  
  The base game is $40. Buying every available piece of DLC is another $429.
  
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- bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  ++++1 for Rimworld. The first time I really committed to learning to play that game, I lost almost 100 hours in ~3 weeks (which is a ton for me, since I have kids and a job… I lost a lot of sleep). The best part of Rimworld, is if there’s a vanilla mechanic you don’t like or wish was fleshed out more, there’s a 98% chance someone has made a mod for it.
  
  But yeah, it isn’t for the faint of heart. It definitely has a learning curve and it isn’t super easy to just pick up and play for small amounts here and there. It’s a game that you really need at least 1-2 hours per session.
  
  I’d recommend watching a quick start tutorial video before you start playing, as that’ll also give you an idea on whether or not you’ll like it.
  
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  - pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I almost religiously play games without modding, but Rimworld is the major exception - it is simply too good to ignore.
    
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- idyllic_optimism@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  +1 to RimWorld suggestion.
  
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