The ME mini features 12GB of LPDDR5-4800 memory, which means the RAM will be soldered to the mainboard and not user upgradeable.
Aaaaand I’m out.
Beelink ME mini is a NAS with an Intel N200 processor and support for up to 6 SSDs
Submitted 2 days ago by Lemmchen@feddit.org to selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Ulrich@feddit.org 2 days ago
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah that’s just so dumb. Also, i wouldn’t be comfortable with the OS on MMC storage. That’s hardly known for reliability. So close and yet so far.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
If it was cost effective maybe but I think this is a bit pricy
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Eh, 12GB is plenty for me. I’m currently using ~3GB out of 16GB, so I’m nowhere close to that cap.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 days ago
I mean, that’s fine if that works for you, but consider more than just your current situation. If you ever wanted to upgrade it or it ever failed sometime in the future, you’d be boned. Personally I have had RAM fail and it cost me about $8 and 10 minutes to repair, rather than several hundred dollars replacing the entire machine.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Solderer ram is slightly more power efficient. And this is probably a laptop board.
That said, 12gb is slightly too low for my liking.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 days ago
That may be true but I don’t really care either way.
shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Hmm. Let’s say I add 6 SSDs, 2TB each, for a total of 600€. In a RAID6 configuration, that gives me 8TB of storage. Compare that to a classical NAS with 2×8 TB HDDs for a total of 350€.
The HDDs will draw around 4W idle each, 8W in total. Assuming 0.3€/kWh, over a span of 5 years, that is approximately 100€. The power consumption of the SSDs will be negligible.
So, just in terms of storage, the SSD solution is around 33% more expensive over 5 years. If you include the cost of the NAS itself, the price increment is even less noticeable.
Takumidesh@lemmy.world 2 days ago
But that is neglecting the performance aspect.
Something like this can be very good for offloading large amounts of data onto a parity backed array either to be moved to a proper long term storage solution later or to be actively worked.
High resolution / bitrate footage comes to mind, where you may be offloading multiple cameras at once and need high write performance.
It’s pretty unlikely that SSDs will have price parity with spinning rust anytime soon, but the value in them has always been performance.
shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Yes, absolutely. Right now, SSDs are probably superior in comparison to HDDs in every category except for price (and long-term data integrity when switched off). But when you consider large parity raids and take into account the cost of electricity, even the price difference might only be small, making SSDs even more attractive.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
[deleted]pipes@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Exactly, it’s very small for a “NAS”, that’s the main advantage. Sub 1liter if my math is right.
jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 days ago
You didn’t count the cost of size and environmental damage.
adoxographer@feddit.dk 2 days ago
Are people really doing NAS with SSD? Not just for cache?
alehel@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
If you live in a small place and dont have massive storage needs, it can make sense for the sake of the quietness.
gaael@lemm.ee 2 days ago
This. I can’t afford reliable always-on storage now, but I plan to build for SSDs rather than HDDs because I don’t have a separate room to put it into.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I’ve been on the lookout for a quiet, inexpensive NAS that I can put under my bed and forget about. I currently have 2x8TB in a mirror, and I’m only using 2-3TB.
In fact, I might even feel comfortable eliminating the RAID w/ SSDs once I clean up our backup strategy (yes, RAID isn’t a backup, I know and I feel bad).
Allero@lemmy.today 2 days ago
I have a long-term dream to build a fanless SSD-powered NAS
Self-hosted, silent, fast - what’s not to love, aside from steep price tag?
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 days ago
More reliable, less power draw than HDDs, faster and far more space efficient.
Unless you are data hoarding random torrents, 6 to 12 TB is plenty.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
More reliable
Heavily depends. If you want to use it as long-term cold storage you absolutely should not use SSDs, they’re losing data when left unpowered for too long. While HDDs are also not perfect in retaining data forever, they won’t fail as quickly when left on a shelf.
adoxographer@feddit.dk 2 days ago
Are they really more reliable than NAS “grade” HDD - and a ssd cache? I always saw SSD with a max write on them, and a NAS does plenty of I/O.
Admittedly I’ve never had an SSD go bad in my computers, but for some reason I never considered them as a good enough alternative for a NAS.
Are there any data you know of the top of your head before I go searching?
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 days ago
Yes, for purposes of noise, size, speed and power efficiency
aspoleczny@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I did, because of energy efficiency and quietness. But also I heavily compromised on the amount of space.
Pyotr@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yep. Smaller, more energy efficient (extremes expensive electricity here, over 1€/kW at peak time summers), and more temperature resiliant (had to shut the rust based nas down in peak summer months as it could not keep drives cool enough with 3k rpm ippc fans)
11x 4tb drives in mine. Raidz3. Paired with a Xeon and 64gb of ram. All in a 5L case.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I’m considering it. Our storage needs are modest (8TB capacity, 2-3TB stored), our HDDs are getting long in the tooth, and I want to downsize so it can fit under my bed and plug directly into the router (it’s currently connecting over wifi). So something relatively inexpensive could convince me to switch.
vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 2 days ago
I was just thinking “bah ssd, that’ll be expensive” but a quick search on Amazon suggests prices have dropped quite a bit.
12Gb soldered on memory though. That’s a shame.
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s quite the RAM for a NAS, no? I think mine has 512MB.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Using a machine like this just as a NAS is a bit of waste. It’s a full blown PC that would work very nicely as a home server for Jellyfin etc. The RAM will limit the utility, though.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 days ago
Depends on your usecase. This could very well be more than just a NAS.
vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 2 days ago
I was recently told that 16GB wasn’t much for ZFS…
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Yeah, my NAS uses 3GB out of my 16GB total. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it use more than 5GB.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 days ago
If it’s less than $200, it might be worth it. Doubtful though.
SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Curious what pricing will be like. I use a beelink as a router rn
Lemmchen@feddit.org 2 days ago
Ihope for it to be somewhere in the $200-250 range. Everything above kinda makes it unattractive when the Flashstor 6 exists.
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 days ago
This would be perfect if I could fit 24th NVMe devices in this, but not looking to pay more then 500-600 in a device with no hdd/ssd
themachine@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Thanks for posting. Would like to use this for multiple reasons.
IllNess@infosec.pub 2 days ago
Just in case the only thing you’re looking for is the price, I’ll save you a click.
weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
The hero we need