Are those stupid antivaxxer parents also dumb enough to join sick and healthy kids for “measle parties” in the US?
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Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m 54 and had no idea what measles was until lately. See, we didn’t have that shit when I was growing up, never even heard of someone catching it.
That’s how dumb American’s have become. We’ve regressed to pre germ theory.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
That’s exactly the problem. Vaccines have worked so well that people have forgotten the horrors of the diseases they prevent.
I read an article a while back about a mother who’s little girl caught whooping cough. She hadn’t vaccinated her, but said that watching her daughter struggling to breathe was the worst thing she’d experienced and wished she had listened and given her the vaccine.
People realize very quickly why vaccines are important, but it’s usually by experiencing it firsthand, and unfortunately it’s too late by then.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
people have forgotten the horrors
I’m that guy regarding polio. My Silent Gen mom would go on about how thankful they were for the polio vaccine and how as kids they lived in fear.
“Polio? Wasn’t that some medieval disease?”
I couldn’t begin to relate.
Got much the same talk asking about her smallpox scar. I’m not sure we were inoculated in the early 70s, the disease was extinct. (Mostly stopped in '72, looks like I barely dodged it.)
Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
The IT paradox :
- “Why am I paying you when everything works?”
- “Why am I paying you when everything has gone to shit?”
You are right that vaccines worked so well because mostly everyone had them, and mostly everyone has to take them for them to work.
Village idiots got a support system and crossed the threshold where the herd immunity has diminished enough for outbreaks in communities.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That isn’t why antivaxxers exist. Antivaxxers exist because they believe the vaccines themselves are poisonous or harmful as a core belief. Whether they believe the diseases are severe or exist is moot because that’s not what they have a problem with.
Many antivaxxers’ children do get severe disease and they do not change their stance because they genuinely believe the vaccines are so harmful.
It’s not that life is so good they are afraid, (doesn’t even make sense) but rather life is so bad and such a distrust in our medical system that they feel like they can’t risk what they see as a bad product.
Misunderstanding these people may make the problem simpler and may make you feel good about yourself, but it doesn’t do much to address their actual beliefs.
imvii@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
I’m the same age. I never knew anyone who had measles EXCEPT older people who told stories of it. I never knew anyone who had it whilst I knew them.
On the flip side, we attended chickenpox parties to get infected. Of course this was before the vaccination and knowing more about Shingles. All the folklore knew was one you get chickenpox, you never get it again and it’s better to have it as a child than adult.
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 1 day ago
To be fair that means the education system has failed you in that regard. That probably contributes to the anti vax cult, they’re simply not taught why vaccines are important and what they help prevent.
boreengreen@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Free quality education for all is a foundation for a functioning democracy.
Fandangalo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Revelations 16:2
So the first angel went and poured his bowl on the earth, and a foul and painful sore came on those who had the mark of the beast and who worshipped its image.
Matthew 23:24
Then if anyone says to you, “Look! Here is the Messiah!” or “There he is!”—do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and produce great signs and omens, to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
If people on the Right want to claim a Christian high ground, then quote the book that matters most to them.
Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
When the true king’s murderers are allowed to roam free, a thousand magicians arise in the land.
Where are the feast we are promised?(Jim Morrison, An American Prayer)
Fandangalo@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Thanks for sharing, homie.
The_Hideous_Orgalorg@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
That book only matters to them insofar as they can use to it to control others.
Fandangalo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Matthew 25:35, separating the goats and sheep, outlines how Jesus would judge people at the end times. These are the questions:
- Did you clothe me?
- Did you feed me?
- Did you visit me in jail?
- Did you help me when I was a foreigner in a strange land?
We must show the modern hypocrisy and how people have fallen astray from their own values. They must be reminded of the values that got us here. If this book is how they truly ground their lives, then there is no way to deny it.
Either they accept Christ’s message or they don’t. I don’t care who asks these questions: they are good moral questions.
ddplf@szmer.info 1 day ago
Nope, not gonna work. Not against Cafeteria Christians all of them are.
Fandangalo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
John 13:34-35
34 I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another.
35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.’
This was said by Jesus before he was betrayed by Judas. This same notion is shared by many other holy prophets.
- The Buddha taught that all living beings experience suffering, and therefore, compassion should be extended to everyone without discrimination.
- The Prophetﷺ set a crucial example to the Muslims: that there is far greater value in forgiveness than in revenge. And that the remedy for injustice and the cycle of abuse is moving the community forward, as one whole, together.
I don’t want to give up on humans. I don’t want to be a bitter person. Maybe my morals will be my ruin, but if so, I know I will have lived a compassionate life of love.
As a human, I hate the actions going on in the US and around the world. As a spirit, I feel compelled to find love and champion it.
Peace be to you, homie. 💜
ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I just feel so bad for the kids getting sick. It’s essentially child abuse.
Squorlple@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Real Americans have red and white skin like the US flag. Soon to be implemented are mandatory blue eyes too
tastetheplague@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
The skin will eventually turn blue as well, once they die from the entirety preventable diseases that they refuse to vaccinate for.
Generica@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
CandyPants@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Liberty lesions…
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Freedom freckles
KingGordon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Murica Measle
PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 day ago
Look at all those freedom sores. Little man is the ultimate patriot 💪💪💪.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 23 hours ago
Shit
introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I can proudly say, I never had one for 20 years and chickenpox never had! I’m just stronger!
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I can proudly say I never wear my stupid seat belt and for 20 years never had an accident! I’m just a better drive!
… see how stupid that sounds?
jaybone@lemmy.world 1 day ago
When you get them as an adult, they will be much worse.
introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Nuh uh
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 day ago
I’m even stronger because I inject a small amount in me just so I can become immune to it.
androidul@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
ewwww 🤮
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