Submitted 3 months ago by Buttflapper@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
I am a reddit refugee. Keep seeing that this is supposed to be somehow better than Reddit. As far as I can tell, it follows a similar format, less restrictive on posts being removed I suppose. But It looks like people still get down vote brigaded on some communities. So I’m curious, how it’s better?
No ads disguised as posts.
less restrictive on posts being removed I suppose.
Depends on where you landed and your political alignment, but lemmy.world is fairly reasonable at least by what I’m looking for. If you start saying radical things like “Mao’s Great Leap Forward” wasn’t a very good thing on certain instances, you may be banned from there, but with your account residing here, it wont be deleted.
Genocide bad will get you banned from .world
Not .world at least. Check out /c/Tankiejerk for some examples of what I’m talking about.
Democracy manifest!
The audience is mostly the same so you’re not going to find many differences there. It’s mostly the platform and its philosophy you’ll find a difference in.
Smaller community means your comment will get some actual attention
No spez. The rest is kinda similar (except on a technical level that mostly matters to nerds)
It has good mobile apps
Users are kinder, discussion is better. There’s no need to drive engagement so there’s no algo pushing conflict and outrage to the fore.
With Lemmy you can make an account on one instance and set default sort to the top posts for the past hour, make an account on a different instance and set default sort on that account to top posts in the last 12 hours or Hot or whatever, bookmark them both, and have a neverending stream of new content.
People already noted other reasons that I agree with but my current setup being 2 accounts with default sort set up like that, I vastly prefer this to Reddit’s layout
You can practice dogpiling to your heart’s content.
Mass down voting was not the reason I left Reddit. Was it why you left? If so then, we’ll, sure, maybe it’s not better for you lol. Lemmy doesn’t track your total points (or “karma” as some call it) which most people seem to appreciate.
It’s not. Redditors keep coming over.
joined a year ago
Hmmm
Much more diverse opinions mainly because there are more non-Americans percentage wise.
You can use a client that doesn’t offend your eyes.
Honestly, it looks like Lemmy sadly became more and more similar to Reddit in that regard. I remember times when it was different and people were way more civil.
That’s not to say all good people are gone, and if you move away from politics and Linux, there’s a treasure trove of nice and welcoming people in here.
In any way, welcome!
It’s not reddit, that’s good enough
It’s the same format with the same people. The only difference is that Lemmy is decentralized. Besides, it isn’t monetized at the moment, so there are no ads or other nuisances.
It tells you when there are new comments on a post u already saw. Getting down voted and whatnot is a reflection on the ppl doing it not the system they’re using
i would say its sufficiently less toxic then reddit (i think bcs lemmy is a small website)
It’s more Linux memes for me.
In terms of how it’s structured, it has the potential to be better, but also the potential to be not much better. in terms of the community and getting downvoted for petty reasons - it’s the same as Reddit. Welcome to Lemmy!
When you think about it, every sarcastic comment you make on Reddit now makes Google better. Reddit is too corporate, but who wouldn’t want to spread seriously good information on Reddit, to be picked up by the google machine? People need to know about the benefits of a little piece of rock a day.
Personally, because I’m not banned for whatever reason a mod made up that day.
It’s smaller for sure, but I’m sure it’ll grow. I think once there’s enough content here you’ll see it as a just a different Reddit.
It’s still pretty easy to get banned on Lemmy. It’s still just human mods.
Oh I’m sure I can be, but Reddit if goofy about it. I was permanently banned for “arguing” with a mod on r/ask the Donald after I… asked a question. They’re a sensitive bunch
It’s pretty hard to get banned on all instances of Lemmy. Particularly, your own.
Lemmy, where the votes are made up and karma don’t matter
Federation, this makes it immune to large-scale disruptions because a single instance may go down or a couple of instances may go down at the same time, but the entire network cannot be taken offline all at once without taking the internet itself offline.
The biggest upside to my Lemmy experience, so far, has been that you can stay within you communities, and actually have a decent conversation about the topics being posted. On reddit, it’s consistently been the exact opposite of that.
I get that not everyone is this way, but there are a lot of really, really frustrated people. Every comment ends up being either ragebait, an argument, or is neither, but still gets downvoted into fuck all, because people cannot differentiate a different opinion, from an incorrect one
I haven’t been banned for suggesting child molesters don’t deserve to live. Can’t say that about Reddit.
Happy cake day!
It’s not better, yet. It’s not owned by anyone, except the server owner, you can block any instance you want, join any instance you want and still access the same data. It will be better once it is the knowledge repository that Reddit became before all the “line must go up” entered into it. It’s mainly memes and news, but there are a ton of growing communities that are accruing a wealth of information every day, so I don’t think it will take much longer for it to be better.
To echo, it’s not really better, just different & smaller. Just slightly less toxic. It’s not owned by Spez, the greedy little pigboy. 3rd party apps aren’t killed for no good reason over here.
Moving to a substantially smaller community of people does have its drawbacks; there is brain drain & stagnation in small hobby communities. Be it roasting coffee, brewing beer, or weed…not nearly as many brains, let alone good brains, and less content generation. There’s less knowledge, making it objectively less useful.
I use Sync for Lemmy & idk I find it hard to navigate to, find new communities. Half of the time I stumble upon one by sheer accident.
But the memes can be really good, it’s still a news/info source, and for me being a conservative it gives me some insight into how “the other side” thinks, possibly even why.
auzy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
So… Two things…
I have a funny story regarding modding on Lemmy…
Ran into two bad mods the other day (related to the same convo). But, gist of the story is, I got into a discussion with someone who heavily exaggerated and claimed I wanted to kill an entire minority, as I only 80% agreed with them (they were basically demanding government benefits which would cause a huge issue if applied to other communities which was required to be fair , and they couldn’t even set the parameters of the rules for it). A Beehaw admin freely ignored the outrageous comment that the other mod made, and branded me instantly as “starting a fight”.
As I was deleting my Beehaw account, I noticed that same non-beehaw mod had actually been in a thread I had also posted in a month ago which was discussing more conservative people moving to Lemmy (I’m VERY left). They basically said in the discussion they were constantly needing to remove “conservative” and people who were trying to start fights . This was ironic because doing the huge exaggeration thing and calling someone a derogatory name is basically out of the conservative playbook (and they were certainly the only ones fighting), and anywhere else it would be seen as rediculous behavior.
People in that thread though also made it sound like the rest of Lemmy was a cesspool. This colored my opinion of Lemmy and I realised my opinion came from that same thread, so, I didn’t want to leave beehaw, and only took the leap recently.
I was actually hugely surprised by Lemmy World. Everyone is a lot more respectful here than I expected and I think its even a better safe space than beehaw, where . There are a lot more connected instances, so the bad actors get drowned out easier, and it promotes a healthy discussion, where science is encouraged. We might not all agree, but it’s a lot easier to avoid echo chambers. The science memes community is also AWESOME on Lemmy and beats anywhere else imho.
Reddit on the other hand, doesn’t seem to have good moderation (most mods are unpaid and the power hungry ones will try to manage hundreds of communities). It has degraded into people fishing for karma , and has a higher percentage of abusive people who also likely abuse others on facebook (many aussie subs have degraded into far right wing where science is discouraged and people purposely try to push an echo chamber). THere are a lot of good mods here though, and if you don’t like a community, you can block it and find another one… The cool part is that I suspect over time, this will eventually keep mods honest.
The biggest problem is that Reddit SHOULD have acted on FatPeopleHate, the Donald and Female Dating strategy. They didn’t act on jailbait either apparently. Those people established themselves permanently into the community, grew to some of the largest communities and the moment mods left, many of those same communities likely did a power grab too