$186k? Yeah, uh, where exactly in the US? I’d venture a guess in most places anything over $100k ia pretty comfortable, if you’re financially responsible.
Americans say they need to earn $186K to live comfortably — but is it enough?
Submitted 4 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
dariusj18@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Housing prices have gone insane
SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 4 months ago
But my housing prices in Bum Fuck Nowhere are fine, so that must mean it’s true every where else. /s
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Here’s my experience. I make $180,000/yr. Family of five. Wife stays home and has a consulting gig she does when she wants to. We live in Northwest Arkansas. Far from the most expensive place in the country but experiencing massive growth and becoming increasingly expensive. Our only debt is our mortgage and a loan on our minivan. We own our other vehicle outright.
We live reasonably comfortably. Definitely not extravagant. We’re also tightwads and I stay in top of our finances. We paid $345k for a fixer-upper home. Average home price in our area for similar homes is probably closer to $450k. It’s liveable but ultimately needs a full remodel. I figure it will take about 5 years doing most of it myself. If I had to pay contractors to do all of it, it would not be feasible. Most of them are so busy they don’t even give you the time of day anyways.
Material costs are insane. I mean absolutely bonkers. I would guess I’m spending double what I did for the same materials I used for my last remodel project on our previous house, four years ago. The five year plan is partly because we can’t afford to go any faster.
If I made $100k/yr, we would never have bought a house. Wouldn’t have even been able to save enough for the down payment. I also seriously doubt we would have had our last two kids.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not complaining. I’m pretty fortunate. I have things I worry about but money isn’t one of them. I know where my next paycheck is coming from and if it doesn’t come, we have enough money in the bank to get by for a while.
The same cannot be said for the vast majority of Americans, even ones making $100k/yr, which is not nearly as good a salary as it used to be.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I mean… lots of people would refuse to live in Arkansas even if you straight up gave them a house.
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 months ago
I’ve come to the conclusion that a good chunk of Lemmy users either live in Seattle, or have no actual concept of money.
More likely that most of the people making 6 figures are living in moderate to high cost of living areas plus the inherent draw of tech-minded people on a platform such as this.
return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 months ago
cries in Los Angeles
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
hides the inner pain in Boston
FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I live in an extremely rural part of the US on about $65k/yr. It’s absolutely not enough. I moved here specifically so I wouldn’t need roommates to pay my bills, but I’m looking at that after only two years into my mortgage anyway.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Where most people live. That’s how averages work.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 months ago
or have no actual concept of money
Right here.
fishpen0@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Population of top 10 most expensive cities
- New York City, New York: 8,467,513
- Los Angeles, California: 3,849,297
- San Francisco, California: 815,201
- Honolulu, Hawaii. Population: 1,000,890
- Washington, D.C. Population: 670,050
- Boston, Massachusetts: 654,776
- San Diego, California: 1,381,611
- San Jose, California: 983,489
- Seattle, Washington: 733,919
- Miami, Florida: 439,890
Total Poulation: 18,996,636 Total US population: 33,300,000 Minimum Total percent of US population living with this issue: 57%
skyspydude1@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Uh, you’re off by a factor of 10 there. Population of the US is closer 330 million, so it’d be 5.7%
auskast@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Did you drop a 0 on US population?
LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Nailed it
scoobford@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
I agree, but a significant portion (maybe even most) of our country’s population do live in very high cost of living areas such as the west cost, DC, Boston, and Miami.
The situation is vastly different in most of the country’s less remarkable cities, like San Antonio, Minneapolis, Oklahoma City, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, or Nashville, and I think articles like this only ever account for one side of the equation or the other.
To someone living in DFW (my home), “needing” almost $200k is insane. Honestly I doubt I’d know what to do with that money unless I just bought a bunch if shit I don’t want.
classic@fedia.io 4 months ago
Wow, yeah that headline gave me that nausea of despair feeling
rbesfe@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Americans are notoriously bad with money
OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Where I live, that would be a ludicrous income, definitely comfortable money.
In California, that would be a lower-middle-class-maybe-i-own-my-home-if-i-bought-early mind of an income. Our regions are so different in cost of living that these kinds of numbers can get funny/confusing
jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
There’s no such thing as the middle class. That’s just what capitalists’ pets call themselves to feel like they somehow deserve not being afraid of starving in the street like most people in the working class.
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Uhm, is that supposed to be achievable?
jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
My annual income is barely 13k canadian.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 months ago
About ten years ago or so that number was 75k to live comfortably without any worries.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I was so excited when I got a big raise (10%), thinking it would change things. Then inflation happened and I’m back to watching my finances.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I got a decent raise. Multiple required insurances I have immediately inflated.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I don’t think that $75k was to live comfortably, I think the $75k was to feel happy about your income.