Comment on Elon Musk says SpaceX HQ officially moving to Texas, blames new CA trans student privacy law

andyburke@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t. Look, we already had this discussion years ago. You don’t feel bad for the stormtrooper, or their families when you blow up the deathstar. They knew what they were getting into.

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  • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m sure there are plenty of people who started at SpaceX before we all truly knew the monster is. Also, the work they are doing is incredibly important. It’s hard to give that up. It shouldn’t be this hard to empathize with people

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    • Peppycito@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I thought that spacex was “incredibly important” once. Now I realize it’s a fast track to a more fucked earth. By the time we get to “planet B” “planet A” is going to be a fiery ball of shit.

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      • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not saying SpaceX isn’t without valid critiques, but if you don’t see the value of reusable rockets and can’t even give them credit for spearheading that, I’m not sure what else to say. Make no mistake I think Elon Musk is a bigoted piece of shit, but I can also acknowledge that SpaceX has done important work

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    • skyspydude1@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Knowing many people who’ve worked for him, you have about 6 months at a MuskCo brand company max before you really know what a piece of shit he is, and either a.) leave ASAP, b.) convince yourself it won’t be so bad and hang on for ~2 years, or c.) fall into the cult of personality and believe that Daddy Elon loves his little proles and cares very much about all the hard work you’re doing [EMPLOYEE NUMBER HERE].

      The absolute last stop on the “Musk is Tony Stark but IRL epic gamer Redditor and likes weed and Rick and Morty!” train was when he called that cave diver a pedophile. It was apparent well before then, but anyone acting like they had no idea what a piece of shit he was after that either didn’t hear about it, or was willfully ignorant because they wanted to continue pretending that basing their entire personality around a billionaire wasn’t a terrible idea.

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  • andyburke@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But they didn't. The guy had me in the first half when he cried because Buzz Aldrin didn't like him. Elon wasn't always so obvious with his bullshit. There was a time when he looked minted as a purveyor of a bright future - the mask slipped.

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The mask has been off for at least 8 years.

      No sympathy for anyone who still stans that phony.

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      • essteeyou@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When did he call that rescuer a “pedo”? Because that’s when I changed my mind on him forever.

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      • andyburke@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well, good to know there's no way forward but your way.

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  • IzzyScissor@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, the stormtroopers were largely either conscripted, or they were clones who were raised in it. Very few were actual mercenaries or people who had a choice to join or not. I still feel bad for them.

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  • verdantbanana@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z6SFL5fCCg

    they built another deathstar right? the first one was completed and fully operational before the rebels >destroyed it up and the second one was still being built when it was blown up

    the first death star was manned by the imperial army only people on board were stormtroopers dignitaries >imperials so when they blew it up no problem evil punished

    the second time around it was not even done being built yet was still under construction job of that matter >would require a hell of lot more manpower than the imperial army had to offer

    bet they brought in independent contractors in on that thing plumbers aluminum siders roofers

    in order to get built quickly and quietly they would hire anyone to do the job you think the average >stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main

    all they know is killing in white uniforms

    all those innocent contractors brought in to do job are killed casualties of a war they had nothing to do >with

    alright look you’re roofer some juicy government comes your way you got a wife the two kids in suburbia

    this is a government contract with all sort of benefits and along come these left wing militants and blast >everything in a three mile radius with their lasers

    they did not ask for that they had no personal politics they were just trying to scrape out a living

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    • Pieresqi@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Innocent contractors”

      Wtf 🤮

      In my book it doesn’t matter if you are building or operating the gas chambers.

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      • Krono@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m a little surprised that this comment has gotten so many upvotes.

        Would you apply this same logic to the real world? For example, imagine if a manufacturing facility for Lockheed Martin or General Dynamics was bombed and thousands of working class Americans died. These people are building bombs that are being used in an ongoing genocide.

        Would you consider this a heinous terrorist act, or a noble strike in the fight for freedom?

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      • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think Andor settled this fairly definitively.

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  • IllNess@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Stormtroopers is fair. What about maintenance staff?

    What about prisoners?

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Does Elon Musk profit off slave labor from prisoners?

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      • Irremarkable@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Considering the mining industries for many of the rare earth metals needed? Yeah he does.

        Plus there's the whole apartheid emerald slave mine thing, which is how daddy made the money he got to play with.

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  • SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m curious, is it reasonable to blame employees for their employers actions like this? I mean to a certain extent perhaps, depending on your position in the company (like if you are part of upper management then you are more responsible obviously).

    Many people are just trying to get by and getting jobs is not easy. Is it okay to blame a person for working somewhere if they don’t have much other choice? Capitalism kinda forces you to work within the system like this.

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• Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Maybe 5 years ago. They’ve had plenty of time to see reason and jump ship to anyone else.

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  • Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People hate switching jobs.

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  • andyburke@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    True, but I don't know everyone's situation.

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• cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  if you’re working at spacex or tesla you’re not reasonable.

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  • nulluser@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    … or xitter.

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    • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have always felt Twixxer rolls off the tongue better, so I’m surprised Xitter seems to have gained more traction.

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      • nulluser@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In this narrow case, it’s considered proper/correct to pronounce the “x” like an “sh”, which greatly improves the tongue rolling.

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• jonne@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you’re working at one if his companies at this stage you probably already know about his management “style” and you’ve either already updated your resume or you’re just cool with it.

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  • Nollij@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Let’s not forget the Golden Handcuffs. Although given what was reported from Twitter, I’m not sure that applies.

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