and if someone had a bad experience with Lemmy you can’t force them to give it another chance, but you could tell them about PieFed
Comment on we need more users
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
Just talk up Lemmy, the issue is most people doesn’t realize there’s another option to the popular toxic trash fires.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 1 week ago
throws_lemy@reddthat.com 1 week ago
They know there are other options, but they won’t join us on the fediverse. That’s because no celebrities or influencers have moved to the fediverse.
And as for reddit users, most of them just like “huh? I like staying here” or “the lemmy devs are tankies and lemmy is a toxic tankies dumpster”
But that’s okay with me, at least we have fewer toxic people.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 1 week ago
or “the lemmy devs are tankies and lemmy is a toxic tankies dumpster”
Well there’s always PieFed
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 week ago
That’s because no celebrities or influencers have moved to the fediverse.
George Takei
OpenStars@piefed.social 6 days ago
Many people improperly exchange “Threadiverse” or even just “Lemmy” with “Fediverse”. George Takei is on Mastodon / the Fediverse, but not on the Threadiverse / Lemmy / PieFed / Mbin.
hanrahan@piefed.social 1 week ago
But thats the same with everything, Mastodon and X as well.
Hell, even Governments like mine here in Australia use that shitty platdorm. Why there is no gov.au Mastodon server I don’t know.
fizzle@quokk.au 1 week ago
I just don’t have conversations with people in which I proselytize internet aggregators. I just don’t talk about this stuff to people.
Besides which, I disagree that the issue is that people don’t know. They don’t know because they haven’t invested the 3 seconds to search “reddit alternatives” and they haven’t done that because they’re happy wherever they are.
Like “most” users think advertising is “good” because it might remind them about things they want. They think it’s “good” that some algorithm might curate content they’re more likely to be interested in. They think it’s fine that there’s a new AI chat bot.
Having an awareness that alternatives exist does not solve these fundamental impediments.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
i actually did this like 2 days ago and the guy agreed to at least try it out. people just need to talk about it and be honest about what is good/bad about the current state
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yeah. They could move to an unpopular toxic trash fire.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 week ago
i occasionally mention lemmy, on a forum where people got banned from reddit( for people earning money from using massive accounts on reddit)
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’ve told people about Lemmy before. I got the same reaction everytime.
“It looks like it’s just people talking about computers.”
And their interest dies. Which tells me there needs to be more diversity of active communities. No one wants to come to a small platform, create a new dead community, and talk to themself.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 week ago
We need comments, that is the problem. Small communities don’t get any positive feedback via engagement, which causes them to die as the owner/sole poster feels like no one cares.
Simply link dumping (effectively what most posts are on content aggregators) is the easy part.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
Now this I do and I’m glad it helps
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 week ago
Thank you for your service o7
Skavau@piefed.social 1 week ago
75% of small communities, if not higher, don’t use lemmy-federate to expand the visibility of their community. The user makes the community, broadcasts a few posts locally and then gets sad that no-one replies (because it can only be seen locally).
I use lemmy-federate a lot to help this, but it’s sometimes too late after they set the comm up.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 week ago
That’s another good point. PieFed has at least taken some steps to work on this, with it automatically posting new communities to NewCommunities and auto-subbing the instance to those posted there.
If the Lemmy devs stopped pushing ML propaganda and actually worked on the software, we might be in a better place today.
nutomic@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
Good idea, thanks!
github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/pull/3757
rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 week ago
Then again if it’s some guy in his corner doing stuff on his own, is it really a community ?
JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 week ago
This is my analysis too. And why, instead of just upvoting posts that interest me, I try to think of something to say about them too. The dreaded “0 comments” is never a good look no matter how we much we tell ourselves that it doesn’t matter.
For this reason I tend to believe that many communities just have too much primary content. Too many posts and not enough comments.
Thought experiment. 2 communities:
Which is the healthier community?
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 week ago
My experience is that it’s more like this:
Not every post is a hit, so if you cast wide you’re likely to get a greater return on comments as something is bound to attract attention. The way the sorting works is that the 5 posts with 3 comments will show at the top and the 0 posts will drop off view, showing an active community.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
So saying something without much effort under a post wothout comments actually helps that post to become more populated?
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 week ago
As long as it’s relevant, yes.
If you just posted say “I agree” or “Totally this” I don’t think that would drive any further engagement.
Kirp123@lemmy.world 1 week ago
To be completely honest, Lemmy is kinda dead outside the politics subs and some of the tech ones. When I deleted my reddit account I came here and joined some of the communities I was using reddit for: Pathfinder 2e, RPG, memes, anime. Out of all of them I only see an occasional post from memes while the other ones are literal ghost towns.
Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 1 week ago
Shameless plug.
If you are into computer RPGs (CRPGs), we have a relatively active community:
!crpg@lemmy.world
The JRPG community is also pretty active:
!jrpg@lemmy.zip
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
they should link to each other in the sidebar so people know how to find them
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
See, the 3 newest posts being 3 over a day old being considered fairly active is one of my issues with Lemmy/fediverse. My whole subscribed feed is like that. Open app, check feed that’s not exclusively doom and gloom politics, and nothing has moved since I checked it the day before.
fizzle@quokk.au 1 week ago
Yep.
Even the politics stuff, it seems to lag behind reddit by a half day or so.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 week ago
sometimes a 1-2 days.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 week ago
ive seen less movies, entertainment, tv shows posts than before, when ee was still alive.
Blaze@piefed.zip 6 days ago
!movies@piefed.social and !television@piefed.social are still around
ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It’s kind of a chicken and the egg problem though, that happens on any new place, so it’s tough to sell them on that unless they already like what’s being talked about. I think it’s probably better to stick to the fundamentals of the fediverse and what makes it better than a centralized platform. In this phase of Lemmy’s popularity we need people that stick around and build communities, and they can only really be enticed to do that based on the merits of the platform.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
Agreed. If news headlines and Linux are your jam you’re all set already. That’s enough to keep me coming back but I aggressively join new communities as they’re made to support them. I only post rarely though, do I only do so much as of now