To add: It’s a good idea to occasionally check with someone else how you smell, because we notice our own smell less than others.
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FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
Plenty of people don’t start to smell bad 24h after a shower, with or without deodorant. In winter, I’d guess it’s actually most people.
I try to shower as infrequently as I can without stinking because it fucks up my skin every single time.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
BanMe@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yep. I developed eczema and soap/chemicals are not my friend, I will forgo deodorant in the winter and use it lightly during the summer - you’d be surprised how little you really need - but I am checking with people about it regularly. I had a friend tell me I smelled like “outside” which made me realize the crystal deodorant wasn’t working right.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
Yeah, my partner can be trusted to advise me of the situation lol
Ifera@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Thank you for being the voice of reason and your patience with some people. A lot of people succumb to The Toupee Fallacy (A form of selection bias in which a thing whose quality is measured in terms of being difficult to detect is wrongly judged to be of poor quality in general, caused by the fact that most people only notice poor quality instances of it.).
I stopped showering every day for medical reasons and under medical supervision when I was young, and that really helped with my smell(Turns out I had both a fungal infection, and a hormonal disorder), and the habit stayed. My hair and my skin do a lot better, and due to the nature of my job, I would certainly know if I smelled, since I am often meeting clients and other team leads.
Having a bidet, applying deodorant daily and changing my clothes daily as well, added to working in climate controlled spaces, away from the sun, crowds and smelly habits like smoking are all factors that some people seem incapable of even considering.
But of course, this is Lemmy, where nuance often just fucking dies.
FishFace@piefed.social 8 hours ago
Yeah. I guess you can analyse it as:
- Denying the antecedent: “showering every day prevents smelling bad, therefore if you don’t shower every day, you will smell bad”
- Confirmation & Selection bias: “that person smells bad, therefore they can’t shower every day, making them an example of not showering every day leading to smelling bad”
- Bias of anecdotal evidence, presumably - at least, I’m assuming that most such people really do smell bad to themselves after only a day, which is treated as a reliable indicator of everyone’s condition.
It’s quite interesting to me, because it clearly becomes a very emotive topic when the difference between waiting one, two or three days to bathe is pretty abstract. I have developed a hypothesis that it’s the feeling of having a shower when one is feeling sticky and sweaty and dirty, and then coming out feeling nice and clean, that gets readily associated with bad odour. I then think that this link simply can’t form easily if your feeling when coming out of the shower is not “nice and clean” but “disgusting ball of skin-flakes held together only by paraffin and artificial grease”.
I have encountered this kind of attitude before but I was actually surprised to find it that prevalent here, because I expected more people to be sympathetic to conditions which require deviation from the norm.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Plenty of people don’t start to smell bad 24h after a shower, with or without deodorant. In winter, I’d guess it’s actually most people.
I’ve learned for my own body the sweet spot is to use deodorant every day first thing in the morning and once per 48 hours take a full shower but if I do anything that causes me to sweat on an off day then I need to take a quick shower without any soaps. This keeps my body appropriately not-smelly and my hair doesn’t get greasy from over-washing like it does if I do a full shower daily. This regime also survives both running 5ks and biking 20+ miles in the summer, even if the day of the race/ride falls on an off-day!
Regarding deodorant I get smelly by the end of the day if I do not use deodorant regardless of the temperature. Also, some deodorants are apparently really good for larger folks who have chaffing issues. A friend of a friend specifically recommended slathering it anywhere that chafes first thing in the morning and that can help significantly
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You probably need to find a good moisturizer and leave it on for a while in the shower.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
Oh fuck, moisturiser!! Thank god someone has finally suggested MOISTURISER to me! And here I’d been covering my body in salt and ash. Truly I am saved.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Prok@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Simply fill your bath with lotion and bathe in that instead of water!
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
I can then run around the village and have people try and catch me
Rooster326@programming.dev 1 day ago
The best part is the bath will never be contaminated by dirty water so you can reuse the lotion forever…
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Aveeno makes an oatmeal bath for this purpose
DrBob@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Are you made from sugar? I’m part of the two-a-day club. When I wake up and after the gym.
Senseless@feddit.org 1 day ago
Are you, by any chance, showering with hot water? It’s said that warmer/hotter water dries out the skin more.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
Well I’m certainly not taking a cold shower in winter! I don’t have a thermostatic shower tap so don’t know what temperature it is, but I guess I have it at about body temperature… Not sure if that is as hot as you mean.
ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
You probably smell really bad. Olfactory fatigue might make you think otherwise. Just shower and moisturize. Find skin friendly soap.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
I use the skin friendliest soap I know of, and can smell when I need a shower, and have trusted other people who validate my own sense. Olfactory fatigue makes no sense unless you shower really infrequently.
Thanks for your fake, ill-informed concern though. Sucks that on Lemmy people are so closed minded they can’t understand that people sweat less than they do.
entwine@programming.dev 1 day ago
I try to shower as infrequently as I can without stinking because it fucks up my skin every single time.
Could you go into detail? Is it the soap, or the water that fucks up your skin? And how does it get “fucked up”?
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
I don’t want to go into too much detail about medical stuff in public but I don’t believe it is about soap alone because it also affects skin that i don’t soap up in the shower.
entwine@programming.dev 1 day ago
You’re not anonymous on social media? That’s always a mistake.
affects skin that i don’t soap up in the shower.
Dawg, what’s the point of showering if you don’t wash your entire body?
There’s no valid excuse for not bathing every day, except if you’re camping or something. If you really are having negative skin reactions, you should go see a dermatologist. I’m not a doctor, so maybe I’m wrong.
You say that you don’t stink, but you also don’t bathe every day, so I’m not going to trust your judgment on matters of hygiene. You should try to get an opinion from someone who wouldn’t lie to you. I have a cousin who doesn’t regularly shower, and he tries to hide it by slathering himself with cologne, but that just makes him smell like body odor and cologne. I tell him he smells like shit, but he doesn’t care. He readily admits that he is just too lazy to shower every day.
Idk why I care so much about this. It’s your life, be gross if you want to. Just… Don’t lie to yourself, I guess.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
I don’t wash in the shower what I wash out of the shower.
I am an adult and it’s weird you and others assume that I haven’t consulted a doctor about this in my entire life.
Not all health problems are curable, so actually doctors’ advice includes (or can include) “don’t shower every day if that exacerbates your condition”.
My partner wouldn’t lie to me about this, which I know because sometimes they do tell me I need a shower. Not often though. It’s weird that you think it’s so hard to tell, yet also are so adamant that it must be done every day - yet that’s my experience with most people online.
It seems pretty clear it just grosses people out who never questioned the habit.
andyspam@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
What’s the point of commenting if you are just going to belittle someone else immediately after they said they didn’t want to talk about it?
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Body moisturizer after shower is a game changer. I wish I’d known about it sooner.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Yeah, but this is a shop for MTG nerds. They ain’t most people.
IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
LMAO.
And plenty of people do start smelling bad 24 hours after not showering with or without deodorant. Out is actually most people…
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Idk, humans have lots of different smells and some are more tolerable than others. Like if you don’t sweat much (not me unfortunately) you can definitely go a day without showering. The worst human smell might be a rotting tooth though, that’s really difficult to be around.
Imhotep@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I’m the same. But of course I do daily the parts where the sun don’t shine.
Some people really do smell more than others, with the same washing habits.
I myself prefer a slight body odor in others, even light sweat (not stink!). Although some perfumes smell really good. But that agressive deodorant smell I hate.
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
you just made my stomach turn
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
This is actually genetic!
Lucky east Asians…
nbcnews.com/…/east-asians-no-body-odor-dont-need-…
NoDignity@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I’m one of those low percentage of non east asian people who have this and it is indeed nice especially since I’m allergic to most deodorants. The hard ear wax does sometimes cause me issues during allergy season though so its not all good.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
TIL there’s no such thing as a master race /jk
Thanks for sharing :)
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
I’m sure plenty of people do, maybe you’re even one of them, but turning this into blanket statements is weird and annoying. How many people think, because of the culture embodied in this sign, that they must shower every day, and never even check?
IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Blah blah cultural embodied… blah blah What are you babbling about?
if you don’t shower daily you reek like shit /FULL STOP
I am sorry about yoru skin condition, Have you experimented with different soaps and or consulted a dermatologist?
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Maybe you reek like shit after a day without showering because you don’t adequately wipe your ass? Because I don’t have that issue. I shower 2-3 times a week and don’t have any issues smelling like I stepped in your argument.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
I’m sorry about how rapidly you stink, have you experimented with different deodorants or consulted a doctor?
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Your bad diet makes you smell worse
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Wait - if you don’t shower every day, how do you wake up fully? :p
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 day ago
White-knuckling traffic with my kid in the car seems to work okay
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
I can’t drag myself out of bed to the shower until I’m awake enough to do non-shower things anyway…
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So that’s why they have those 48 hour protection deodorants, it’s for the Magic players!
Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Yu-Gi-Oh! players too, especially if they do 5m combos every time they’re going 1st.